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  • Bball
    Jimmy did what Jimmy did
    • Jan 2004
    • 26985

    #6751
    We were supposed to take mitigation seriously, rely heavily on contact tracing and testing, and use what we learned in the spring and summer about the disease so as not to be in this place now. But some had other ideas...
    Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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    "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatโ€™s teamwork."

    -John Wooden

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    • BlueNGold
      Banned
      • Aug 2005
      • 32249

      #6752
      Originally posted by Bball
      We were supposed to take mitigation seriously, rely heavily on contact tracing and testing, and use what we learned in the spring and summer about the disease so as not to be in this place now. But some had other ideas...
      I warned about this earlier in the year. It's gotten worse all over the western world because weather is the overriding factor. Even Germany with its god-like handling of the virus is getting worse by the day.

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      • Bball
        Jimmy did what Jimmy did
        • Jan 2004
        • 26985

        #6753

        Bloomberg White House Official Recovers From Severe Covid-19, Friend Says

        (Bloomberg) -- A White House official who fell ill with Covid-19 in September is recovering after three months in the hospital, though he lost his right foot and lower leg in his battle against the virus, according to a friend.

        Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

        ------

        "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatโ€™s teamwork."

        -John Wooden

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        • graphic-er
          I'm on a MAC!
          • Jan 2010
          • 12384

          #6754
          Originally posted by Bball
          Bloomberg White House Official Recovers From Severe Covid-19, Friend Says

          (Bloomberg) -- A White House official who fell ill with Covid-19 in September is recovering after three months in the hospital, though he lost his right foot and lower leg in his battle against the virus, according to a friend.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/othe...ys/ar-BB1bV9tN
          Good Lord, you gotta feel sorry for that guy. The $30K raised in his go fund me won't cover much of his medical bills. He should have went public with his condition months ago in hopes that the government would step in and take care of his bills.
          You can't get champagne from a garden hose.

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          • Bball
            Jimmy did what Jimmy did
            • Jan 2004
            • 26985

            #6755
            Sad story here. And a cautionary tale as well:

            The death toll among Washington nursing home residents continues to rise following a 300-person wedding in November, which was attended by a number of staff members.

            Grant County health officials announced on Friday that 23 residents of two separate long-term care facilities had died of COVID-19 following previously-reported coronavirus outbreaks. There are also 6 additional deaths that are still under review.

            Although three staff members working at local nursing homes have โ€œself-identified as attending the wedding and worked while contagious before they knew they were ill,โ€ as those workers โ€œcare for all residents...it will not be known which individual cases or deaths are tied to the staff," health officials wrote in a news release.


            Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

            ------

            "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatโ€™s teamwork."

            -John Wooden

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            • BlueNGold
              Banned
              • Aug 2005
              • 32249

              #6756
              While Germany continues to do better than most of western civilization, they continue to climb in deaths per capita as compared to the rest of the world. Over the last several weeks they have gone from #79 in the world to #63 and climbing.

              Daily and weekly updated statistics tracking the number of COVID-19 cases, recovered, and deaths. Historical data with cumulative charts, graphs, and updates.


              Indiana isn't doing well. We are 13th in the nation at 1035 deaths per capita. Compare to Sweden which is at around 750. Interestingly, if Sweden were state in the US they would be #31 behind Montana and with below average deaths.

              Hmmm. No masks in Sweden. Doing better than the US.

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              • BlueNGold
                Banned
                • Aug 2005
                • 32249

                #6757
                Originally posted by Bball
                Bloomberg White House Official Recovers From Severe Covid-19, Friend Says

                (Bloomberg) -- A White House official who fell ill with Covid-19 in September is recovering after three months in the hospital, though he lost his right foot and lower leg in his battle against the virus, according to a friend.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/othe...ys/ar-BB1bV9tN
                Anyone know why Covid now causes limbs to get amputated?

                Edit: or maybe it's this:

                COVID-19 Patients With Arterial Leg Thromboses Risk Amputation and Death

                tctmd.com/news/covid-19-patients-arterial-leg-thromboses-risk-amputation-and-death

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                • Bball
                  Jimmy did what Jimmy did
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 26985

                  #6758
                  Amputation happened with the Broadway actor (whose name escapes me at the moment), who ultimately didn't make it anyway. He was hospitalized with Covid early in the pandemic and remained there for some time.

                  We know there are theories about the clotting issues some experience with Covid-19, but I don't know if they've exactly zeroed in on the exact cause and have anything in the toolkit to avoid this, or if all they can do is treat the symptoms and hope for the best if it presents.
                  Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

                  ------

                  "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatโ€™s teamwork."

                  -John Wooden

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                  • Bball
                    Jimmy did what Jimmy did
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 26985

                    #6759
                    Here is the article reporting the death of the actor who had his leg amputated due to Covid-19. He died in July after battling Covid in the hospital for 3 months.
                    Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

                    ------

                    "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatโ€™s teamwork."

                    -John Wooden

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                    • BlueNGold
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 32249

                      #6760
                      Originally posted by Bball
                      Here is the article reporting the death of the actor who had his leg amputated due to Covid-19. He died in July after battling Covid in the hospital for 3 months.
                      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nick-co...1-coronavirus/
                      So you're thinking this is a pretty nasty bug?

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                      • Gamble1
                        Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 7266

                        #6761
                        Originally posted by BlueNGold

                        Anyone know why Covid now causes limbs to get amputated?

                        Edit: or maybe it's this:

                        COVID-19 Patients With Arterial Leg Thromboses Risk Amputation and Death

                        tctmd.com/news/covid-19-patients-arterial-leg-thromboses-risk-amputation-and-death
                        The thrombosis can be anywhere not just the legs but typically if you throw one down your descending aorta then it can lodge itself in the legs. Throw one up you ascending aorta and up your carotids then you stroke.

                        The reason most likely is the general inflammation response and the platelets.

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                        • Gamble1
                          Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 7266

                          #6762
                          Originally posted by BlueNGold
                          While Germany continues to do better than most of western civilization, they continue to climb in deaths per capita as compared to the rest of the world. Over the last several weeks they have gone from #79 in the world to #63 and climbing.

                          Daily and weekly updated statistics tracking the number of COVID-19 cases, recovered, and deaths. Historical data with cumulative charts, graphs, and updates.


                          Indiana isn't doing well. We are 13th in the nation at 1035 deaths per capita. Compare to Sweden which is at around 750. Interestingly, if Sweden were state in the US they would be #31 behind Montana and with below average deaths.

                          Hmmm. No masks in Sweden. Doing better than the US.
                          Something is fishy with Swedens numbers. Look at this chart and see the trend. They plateau for 4 to 5 days then a spike then a dip rinse and repeat since early November.

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                          • BlueNGold
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 32249

                            #6763
                            Originally posted by Gamble1

                            Something is fishy with Swedens numbers. Look at this chart and see the trend. They plateau for 4 to 5 days then a spike then a dip rinse and repeat since early November.

                            https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...ickerSort=desc
                            I just think it's the way they record the data and it's not being done daily. It should be, but they're busy partying in the bars and taking extended Euro vacations filling the beaches. ...while Germany is tucked away in their houses and all they have to do is collect and analyze their cases rising.

                            Edit: OK, seriously...it's just the fact they are not doing a good job reporting numbers on a daily basis. I don't think it's anything fishy. It's just not a thing there as we know they don't wear masks and wipe down everything.
                            Last edited by BlueNGold; 12-15-2020, 10:08 PM.

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                            • Bball
                              Jimmy did what Jimmy did
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 26985

                              #6764
                              Swedish PM and their Covid Commission discuss the current state of the pandemic in Sweden:
                              Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

                              ------

                              "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatโ€™s teamwork."

                              -John Wooden

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                              • BlueNGold
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 32249

                                #6765
                                Originally posted by Bball
                                Swedish PM and their Covid Commission discuss the current state of the pandemic in Sweden:
                                https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...vid-resurgence
                                Yet the state of Indiana is far worse and most states in America are worse than Sweden.

                                also take a look at their demographics in Sweden. They are not as homogeneous as the other Nordic countries.

                                edit: in addition to being more diverse Sweden simply has a larger population. Itโ€™s closer to being the size of a European country than any other Nordic country.
                                Last edited by BlueNGold; 12-15-2020, 11:03 PM.

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