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Whatever you say....Laugh all you want. I expect Luck to throw more interceptions that any other QB in the League and that is not so much Luck as it is that the offensive line will not give him long enough for his receivers to get open and for him to find them. I also expect Luck to be sacked a ton of times and he could lead the league there too for the same reasons.....
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Sooo what are you expecting from RG3 who is holding the ball too long, and actually taking sacks in camp? lolLaugh all you want. I expect Luck to throw more interceptions that any other QB in the League and that is not so much Luck as it is that the offensive line will not give him long enough for his receivers to get open and for him to find them. I also expect Luck to be sacked a ton of times and he could lead the league there too for the same reasons..... ...Comment
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I think RG3 will have a rough camp. He has a lot to learn that Luck already had learned at Stanford. When the season starts, I expect RG3 to do well. The problems Luck will have won't be due to his abilities but to the fact that he will be playing behind the worst offensive line in the NFL and he is going to get rushed and sacked continuously. Manning might have been able to survive with this line but not a rookie who won't have Peyton's ability to switch plays at the last second to keep the blitz off of him. You have a potential franchise QB who will be lucky to survive the season behind that line. They are signing arena league players to help bolster the line. Good luck (pardon the pun) with all of that. I am willing to make a substantial wager on which QB finishes the highest in the Rookie of the Year Standings. And before you start crying about how much better the Redskins are, remember Cam Newton came in and played for a very bad team last year. There is the real deal and the QB of the decade, not Andrew Luck nor RG3, in my not so humble opinion..... ...
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I think they are even better than the Packers. They are the more complete team. They don't have a super amazing defense, they don't even have a complete offense. The Bears have a much more complete team in regards to offense, defense, and special teams. Now that Marshall plays for them, I think that they have one of the most if not the most complete offense in the NFL, behind the New England Patriots. Besides quarterbacks aren't the team, unless you have Peyton Manning.Last edited by Steagles; 08-04-2012, 10:16 AM.Senior at the University of Louisville.
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Even with a bad offensive line I expect Luck to get hit less than RG3 because of his recognition and intelligence. He can make decisions much faster than Griffin. Which means he won't hold the ball as long. Griffin is used to being capable of delaying the decision process with his legs. A luxury he won't have in the NFL. In fact, that's why he should get hit more.
I never understood the RG3 will be better sooner crowd. As we have seen for 13 years, a quick thinking QB can cover for a bad offensive more so than vice versa. Oh, and btw the Redskins have some issues on the offensive line themselves anyway. Pretty sure they aren't comfortable with the right side.Comment
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RG3 has a great football IQ. He will adapt quickly and I expect Luck to get hit a lot more often and much harder than RG3. RG3 will be able to use his running game because they won't be playing from far behind in ever game. I see the Colts having he worst ground game in the NFL because of the bad linemen and the fact that Luck will have to keep chucking the rock trying to get them back in games. Here is a notice for you, the Colts will be a truly horrible team. The Redskins will be around .500 or even a little better...... ...
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So go root for the f'n 'Skins, you misplaced and misguided goofball.RG3 has a great football IQ. He will adapt quickly and I expect Luck to get hit a lot more often and much harder than RG3. RG3 will be able to use his running game because they won't be playing from far behind in ever game. I see the Colts having he worst ground game in the NFL because of the bad linemen and the fact that Luck will have to keep chucking the rock trying to get them back in games. Here is a notice for you, the Colts will be a truly horrible team. The Redskins will be around .500 or even a little better...... ...There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.Comment
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Nah, I want to watch the Colts and laugh my *** off when everyone here jumps off of the Luck bandwagon and start asking for the coaches and front office to be fired. The problem isn't with them, it is with Jimmy I himself....... I will be a Colts fan when all of you throw in the towel. But that will take five or six years..... ...
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It is always interesting to see how quickly people resort to vulgarities and name calling when they are given an argument and prediction they can't cope with..... We will see who is the misguided goofball after the first eight games....... ...
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There's nothing about your arguments or predictions that people can't cope with, it's just impossible to reason with someone who has no touch with reality when discussing a situation.
You're so sure Luck is going to fall apart for no reason when the rest of the world sees a star, and the worst one of all, is you think the Colts will suck for "x" amount of years. Which is just down right ... stupid, for lack of a better term. Can you tell me who will be on the Colts team in 2013? 2014? How about 2015? Of course you can't, but the idea that you still think you can predict anything about those years end results is just downright asinine.
So I'm not shocked to see people attack you, you're unreasonable with the gall and outright audacity to think you're the lone smart person in an entire world of morons. Then you're shocked when people are annoyed by this? Your victim act is silly.Comment
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[QUOTE=xBulletproof;1490754]There's nothing about your arguments or predictions that people can't cope with, it's just impossible to reason with someone who has no touch with reality when discussing a situation.
You're so sure Luck is going to fall apart for no reason when the rest of the world sees a star, and the worst one of all, is you think the Colts will suck for "x" amount of years. Which is just down right ... stupid, for lack of a better term. Can you tell me who will be on the Colts team in 2013? 2014? How about 2015? Of course you can't, but the idea that you still think you can predict anything about those years end results is just downright asinine.
We will see. I think Luck will fall apart because he does not have an offensive line. That has nothing to do with Luck. Since the Irsay's have owned the Colts, how good have they been at building a team to compete in the playoffs and Superbowl without a guy named Peyton leading them? That is the reason that I doubt the Colts will win anything or contend for anything for many years.... Think about the days of Jeff George. You are about to see a not so instant replay....... ... People can attack me all they want but they let their fandom overwhelm their common sense.....
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Why do you think this line is soooo bad?Laugh all you want. I expect Luck to throw more interceptions that any other QB in the League and that is not so much Luck as it is that the offensive line will not give him long enough for his receivers to get open and for him to find them. I also expect Luck to be sacked a ton of times and he could lead the league there too for the same reasons..... ...
Even last year the Colts weren't the worst offensive line by a long stretch. In fact if you look up the stats the Colts were middle of the pack as far as sacks and QB hits. So the only way your argument even works is if your predicting the new offensive line (3 more guys) to just fall apart and the only one that is even in question is Winston Justice IMO. McGlynn and Satele are both proven to be adequate starters in the league so that leaves Justice as the glaring weakness on the RT spot. But here is what you are not considering,,, Likenbach and to a lesser extent Reitz can slide over to the RT spot if Justice completely fails at protecting Luck.
So you see the Colts won't be any worse than they were last year on the o-line and in fact could be even better considering injuries and the young blood they have brought in.
SO lets break down your other dubious comment about how the Colts don't have a running game. The Colts in fact have a half way decent running game if you look at the stats from last year and the addition of Satele and McGlynn further help the running game IMO.
Fact is the Colts ranked 15th in league in yards per carry but they simply didn't run it very often (ranked 29th in attempts). Colts fans everywhere know the reason why and it had to do with the defense and the terrible 3 as I like to call them (Painter, Collins and Orlovsky). They simply couldn't score points and the defense got worn down late in games forcing the offense to play catch up.
IF your going to say that Luck will have more interceptions than Painter, Collins, and Orlovsky then I am sorry you simply don't know what you are talking about. The line was average with a below average Qb's manning the helm and Luck is an above average QB so I predict they will be just fine this year. In fact I think Luck wins rookie of the year to Jimmy delight and to your dismay.
Edit: The real reason I think you like pooing on the Colts is becuase you dislike Jimmy's decision with Peyton. In a way I get that sentiment but being younger I am not so skeptical of change as you are.Last edited by Gamble1; 08-04-2012, 05:15 PM.Comment
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