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  • Kid Minneapolis
    Pacer Pride, Colts Strong
    • Apr 2004
    • 7351

    #46
    Re: Colts sign Luck

    Where Manning beats Luck

    - Release time (but Luck's is extremely fast also)

    Where Manning and Luck are equals

    - Memory and retention and recall and decision making speed
    - Pocket awareness and ability to get rid of the ball

    Where Luck exceeds Manning:

    - Body strength and athleticism
    - Quickness
    - Feet (Luck has just amazing footwork... Manning had happy feet)
    - Running game just completely owns Manning
    - Ability to deliver on the run (Manning was underrated this, but Luck is Aaron Rodgers-like, just superhuman)

    Comparing their college footage, Luck just outclasses Manning across the board except in release time, where he is still extremely respectable... I don't know if I've seen a release time as fast as Mannings. Luck is an athletic Peyton Manning.

    People don't understand what kind of QB we just got on this team.
    There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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    • Bball
      Jimmy did what Jimmy did
      • Jan 2004
      • 26917

      #47
      Re: Colts sign Luck

      You forgot to compare age and number of neck surgeries....
      Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

      ------

      "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

      -John Wooden

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      • OlBlu
        Banned
        • Dec 2011
        • 3288

        #48
        Re: Colts sign Luck

        ... Shift+R improves the quality of this image. CTRL+F5 reloads the whole page.
        Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis
        Where Manning beats Luck

        - Release time (but Luck's is extremely fast also)

        Where Manning and Luck are equals

        - Memory and retention and recall and decision making speed
        - Pocket awareness and ability to get rid of the ball

        Where Luck exceeds Manning:

        - Body strength and athleticism
        - Quickness
        - Feet (Luck has just amazing footwork... Manning had happy feet)
        - Running game just completely owns Manning
        - Ability to deliver on the run (Manning was underrated this, but Luck is Aaron Rodgers-like, just superhuman)

        He exceeds Manning in all of these areas and he hasn't even played an NFL game yet. Amazing that people think like this. When he gets in a game this guy may not be able to find the centers butt with both hands.... Manning we know about. Luck is 100% speculation.........

        Comparing their college footage, Luck just outclasses Manning across the board except in release time, where he is still extremely respectable... I don't know if I've seen a release time as fast as Mannings. Luck is an athletic Peyton Manning.

        People don't understand what kind of QB we just got on this team.
        Exceeds in all of those areas and he hasn't even played a game... Wonderful. He will need that running ability, pass rushers are going to pursue him right out of the pocket..... ... Shift+R improves the quality of this image. CTRL+F5 reloads the whole page.

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        • Kid Minneapolis
          Pacer Pride, Colts Strong
          • Apr 2004
          • 7351

          #49
          Re: Colts sign Luck

          Talkin' bout comin outta college, Blu. If you compare both QBs comin' outta college.

          But.... even if you compared them straight up right now --- that list isn't off target. The only real diff is Manning has over a decade of experience and Luck has zero. Manning also has over a decade of damage done to his neck and spine.

          But you're completely selling Luck short as a prospect and talent. Manning is obviously going to have a better year this year, if he stays healthy, because he's been doing this way longer. But a few years from now, you're going to regret saying you wish we still had Manning... because he'll be in the last 1-2 years of his career, and Luck will be just getting warmed up.
          Last edited by Kid Minneapolis; 07-22-2012, 09:37 PM.
          There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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          • OlBlu
            Banned
            • Dec 2011
            • 3288

            #50
            Re: Colts sign Luck

            Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis
            Talkin' bout comin outta college, Blu. If you compare both QBs comin' outta college.

            But.... even if you compared them straight up right now --- that list isn't off target. The only real diff is Manning has over a decade of experience and Luck has zero. Manning also has over a decade of damage done to his neck and spine.

            But you're completely selling Luck short as a prospect and talent. Manning is obviously going to have a better year this year, if he stays healthy, because he's been doing this way longer. But a few years from now, you're going to regret saying you wish we still had Manning... because he'll be in the last 1-2 years of his career, and Luck will be just getting warmed up.
            Three years from now Luck may not even be in the NFL..... I have seen good young QBs hurt that way. David Carr would be one. I think Luck will take the most punishment of any NFL QB this coming season and how many of they play the entire season without serious injury? With that offensive line and the defense being woeful and keeping Luck in passing situations, I do not like his changes to excape intact....... But that is just my opinion from forty plus years of observation....

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            • Kid Minneapolis
              Pacer Pride, Colts Strong
              • Apr 2004
              • 7351

              #51
              Re: Colts sign Luck

              Originally posted by OlBlu
              Three years from now Luck may not even be in the NFL..... I have seen good young QBs hurt that way. David Carr would be one. I think Luck will take the most punishment of any NFL QB this coming season and how many of they play the entire season without serious injury? With that offensive line and the defense being woeful and keeping Luck in passing situations, I do not like his changes to excape intact....... But that is just my opinion from forty plus years of observation....
              Our line is probly better this year than last, have you not kept track of our personnel moves this off-season? Our rooks last year have 1 year under their belt now, and we brought some guys in. Why you think Luck is destined to get hurt while giving RG3 and Manning a free pass is beyond me. That's not logical, lol. But be prepared to get a rain of boos if it ends up coming true... predicting or wishing injury on anyone is pretty poor form.

              If I recall, David Carr had a pretty good o-line, he could stand back there all day.... and he still got sacked a ton because he wasn't very good. He held on to the ball wayyy too long and had no mobility.
              Last edited by Kid Minneapolis; 07-23-2012, 09:26 AM.
              There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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              • Bball
                Jimmy did what Jimmy did
                • Jan 2004
                • 26917

                #52
                Re: Colts sign Luck

                Of course Luck could get hurt, but why is that not true of any young QB coming into the league, and especially one drafted high? A top prospect is likely going to a team that wasn't very good the previous season in nearly all cases. Manning survived his first year as a Colt QB still on his feet.
                Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

                ------

                "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

                -John Wooden

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                • xBulletproof
                  I have a Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 4671

                  #53
                  Re: Colts sign Luck

                  Originally posted by OlBlu
                  Three years from now Luck may not even be in the NFL
                  With the list of silly things you've ever said, this is by FAR the silliest. Comments like this would be why people give you crap. This is pure crazy talk.

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                  • hoosierguy
                    Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 7486

                    #54
                    Re: Colts sign Luck

                    Originally posted by xBulletproof
                    With the list of silly things you've ever said, this is by FAR the silliest. Comments like this would be why people give you crap. This is pure crazy talk.
                    It is a troll comment. The guy is only here to post intentionally inflammatory comments solely to anger other posters.

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                    • PacerDude
                      It's just my opinion.
                      • May 2009
                      • 10049

                      #55
                      Re: Colts sign Luck

                      Originally posted by hoosierguy
                      It is a troll comment..
                      He has a pretty healthy man-crush on RG3. Slightly disturbing at times.

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                      • OlBlu
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 3288

                        #56
                        Re: Colts sign Luck

                        Originally posted by xBulletproof
                        With the list of silly things you've ever said, this is by FAR the silliest. Comments like this would be why people give you crap. This is pure crazy talk.
                        Hey, it has happen to other phenoms...... How long was Jamarkus Russell in the League? He was a number one draft pick too. I know, blah, blah, blah, you can't compare Russell to Luck. Well, one certainly can. There are more. Do I think he won't be in the league in three years? Of course not but he is no mortal lock to be a great NFL player.......

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                        • OlBlu
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 3288

                          #57
                          Re: Colts sign Luck

                          Originally posted by Bball
                          Of course Luck could get hurt, but why is that not true of any young QB coming into the league, and especially one drafted high? A top prospect is likely going to a team that wasn't very good the previous season in nearly all cases. Manning survived his first year as a Colt QB still on his feet.
                          That Colts team was many times better than this bunch of rejects. He had two hall of famers on the offensive with him when he entered the League......

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                          • OlBlu
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 3288

                            #58
                            Re: Colts sign Luck

                            Originally posted by hoosierguy
                            It is a troll comment. The guy is only here to post intentionally inflammatory comments solely to anger other posters.
                            There you go calling people names again. I thought we were over that. I didn't say anything to anger anyone. I just think Luck will be very much at risk of injury playing on this Colts team....

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                            • Kid Minneapolis
                              Pacer Pride, Colts Strong
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 7351

                              #59
                              Re: Colts sign Luck

                              Originally posted by OlBlu
                              That Colts team was many times better than this bunch of rejects. He had two hall of famers on the offensive with him when he entered the League......
                              But they weren't blocking for him.
                              There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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                              • Sollozzo
                                Member
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 27455

                                #60
                                Re: Colts sign Luck

                                Originally posted by OlBlu
                                That Colts team was many times better than this bunch of rejects. He had two hall of famers on the offensive with him when he entered the League......

                                They weren't HOF's in 1998. Oh, and Saturday didn't arrive until 1999.

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