Colts sign Luck

[OlBlu]

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Why do you think this line is soooo bad?

Even last year the Colts weren't the worst offensive line by a long stretch. In fact if you look up the stats the Colts were middle of the pack as far as sacks and QB hits. So the only way your argument even works is if your predicting the new offensive line (3 more guys) to just fall apart and the only one that is even in question is Winston Justice IMO. McGlynn and Satele are both proven to be adequate starters in the league so that leaves Justice as the glaring weakness on the RT spot. But here is what you are not considering,,, Likenbach and to a lesser extent Reitz can slide over to the RT spot if Justice completely fails at protecting Luck.

So you see the Colts won't be any worse than they were last year on the o-line and in fact could be even better considering injuries and the young blood they have brought in.

SO lets break down your other dubious comment about how the Colts don't have a running game. The Colts in fact have a half way decent running game if you look at the stats from last year and the addition of Satele and McGlynn further help the running game IMO.

Fact is the Colts ranked 15th in league in yards per carry but they simply didn't run it very often (ranked 29th in attempts). Colts fans everywhere know the reason why and it had to do with the defense and the terrible 3 as I like to call them (Painter, Collins and Orlovsky). They simply couldn't score points and the defense got worn down late in games forcing the offense to play catch up.

IF your going to say that Luck will have more interceptions than Painter, Collins, and Orlovsky then I am sorry you simply don't know what you are talking about. The line was average with a below average Qb's manning the helm and Luck is an above average QB so I predict they will be just fine this year. In fact I think Luck wins rookie of the year to Jimmy delight and to your dismay.

Edit: The real reason I think you like pooing on the Colts is becuase you dislike Jimmy's decision with Peyton. In a way I get that sentiment but being younger I am not so skeptical of change as you are.

What does age have to do with that? I don't mind change. I do mind lies and complete stupidity. I do dislike Irsay's decision on Peyton and the football Gods are about to make him pay for that big time but don't worry, with the loser salaries and such, he will be lining his pockets big time. Yes, I think the offensive line is a complete train wreck. When you are picking up every reject in the league and signing arena players, it will be very ugly. Last year they had a couple of decent offensive linemen. This year, they don't have any who show much. Teams won't be able to wait to blitz this team and Luck is going to have to have luck to avoid serious injury. Think David Carr....... ...

[Psyren]

What does age have to do with that? I don't mind change. I do mind lies and complete stupidity. I do dislike Irsay's decision on Peyton and the football Gods are about to make him pay for that big time but don't worry, with the loser salaries and such, he will be lining his pockets big time. Yes, I think the offensive line is a complete train wreck. When you are picking up every reject in the league and signing arena players, it will be very ugly. Last year they had a couple of decent offensive linemen. This year, they don't have any who show much. Teams won't be able to wait to blitz this team and Luck is going to have to have luck to avoid serious injury. Think David Carr....... ...

Satele is a very solid center. Castonzo was good last year. McGlynn has proven to be adequate.

I dont see where you get the idea that this line is a train wreck.

This group is no worse than last year. Don kid yourself, Saturday mostly wasnt worth a damn at blocking. Good guy and smart player, but he just wasnt good last year. Most people think Satele is a very good center.

By all means have your opinion, but I just cant figure out where you come up with the line as a trainwreck, because it really isnt.

[Gamble1]

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What does age have to do with that? I don't mind change. I do mind lies and complete stupidity. I do dislike Irsay's decision on Peyton and the football Gods are about to make him pay for that big time but don't worry, with the loser salaries and such, he will be lining his pockets big time. Yes, I think the offensive line is a complete train wreck. When you are picking up every reject in the league and signing arena players, it will be very ugly. Last year they had a couple of decent offensive linemen. This year, they don't have any who show much. Teams won't be able to wait to blitz this team and Luck is going to have to have luck to avoid serious injury. Think David Carr....... ...

You come off like a crotchety old man who hates the fact that his favorite player is no longer on the team and you come up with reasons to forecast doom and gloom for the COlts because your are bitter. I think we all get that but you are making up reasons that are easy for any fan with access to NFL.COM to disprove.

But go ahead and tell me how the 53rd man on the Colts roster is why I should be worried that the next 5 years are going to be losing seasons.

[OlBlu]

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You come off like a crotchety old man who hates the fact that his favorite player is no longer on the team and you come up with reasons to forecast doom and gloom for the COlts because your are bitter. I think we all get that but you are making up reasons that are easy for any fan with access to NFL.COM to disprove.

But go ahead and tell me how the 53rd man on the Colts is why I should be worried that the next 5 years are going to be losing seasons.

I am a crotchety old man and I do hate the fact that the Colts let the best player they ever had go. I hope I hear from some of you when the Colts drop those first eight games and Luck gets chased all over the stadium and it turnes out that one thing is certain. Andrew Luck ain't no Peyton Manning....... But I will get to see the master in Denver for another four or five years.... I can't wait until they meet the Colts in the regular season. I wonder if after kicking Indy's asses, he glances up to Irsay's suite and smiles or waves. He is probably way to classy to do that but it would be fun to see..... ...

[OlBlu]

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Satele is a very solid center. Castonzo was good last year. McGlynn has proven to be adequate.

I dont see where you get the idea that this line is a train wreck.

This group is no worse than last year. Don kid yourself, Saturday mostly wasnt worth a damn at blocking. Good guy and smart player, but he just wasnt good last year. Most people think Satele is a very good center.

By all means have your opinion, but I just cant figure out where you come up with the line as a trainwreck, because it really isnt.

Castonzo was hurt all last year and far from good but I will agree he could be. How do you know Satele is a very solid center? He took snaps last year? Who in the hell is McGlynn and where did they get him. Saturday was surrounded by inept linemen. He couldn't block by himself. Satele can only hope to be as good as Jeff Saturday. The line really is that bad. Check out the arena league player they signed this week. Players will come through that line like a hot knife through soft butter....... But, think whatever you want. After about eight games, we will see who is right and start talking about who the NFL number one pick for the Colts should be next year...... ...

[Gamble1]

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Castonzo was hurt all last year and far from good but I will agree he could be. How do you know Satele is a very solid center? He took snaps last year? Who in the hell is McGlynn and where did they get him. Saturday was surrounded by inept linemen. He couldn't block by himself. Satele can only hope to be as good as Jeff Saturday. The line really is that bad. Check out the arena league player they signed this week. Players will come through that line like a hot knife through soft butter....... But, think whatever you want. After about eight games, we will see who is right and start talking about who the NFL number one pick for the Colts should be next year...... ...

You should know the O-line if you going to say they suck. Satele as a rookie in 08 started for the Dolphins at Center when they went 11-5 and won the AFC East Division. Thats with Chad Pennington as the QB.

[OlBlu]

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Satele is a very solid center. Castonzo was good last year. McGlynn has proven to be adequate.

I dont see where you get the idea that this line is a train wreck.

This group is no worse than last year. Don kid yourself, Saturday mostly wasnt worth a damn at blocking. Good guy and smart player, but he just wasnt good last year. Most people think Satele is a very good center.

By all means have your opinion, but I just cant figure out where you come up with the line as a trainwreck, because it really isnt.

I know you Indy homers don't bother reading anything outside of Indiana about your team. Have you read this article about who will be the most disappointing rookies this year? Guess who is on the list....http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...-season/page/2 ... I know, I know, you guys don't believe in what experts say. How convenient......

[OlBlu]

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Satele is a very solid center. Castonzo was good last year. McGlynn has proven to be adequate.

I dont see where you get the idea that this line is a train wreck.

This group is no worse than last year. Don kid yourself, Saturday mostly wasnt worth a damn at blocking. Good guy and smart player, but he just wasnt good last year. Most people think Satele is a very good center.

By all means have your opinion, but I just cant figure out where you come up with the line as a trainwreck, because it really isnt.

And guess who is listed as one of the top five QBs? Hint: it ain't Andrew Luck. http://www.nsawins.com/betting/nfl/2...-quarterbacks/ ...

[speakout4]

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And guess who is listed as one of the top five QBs? Hint: it ain't Andrew Luck. http://www.nsawins.com/betting/nfl/2...-quarterbacks/ ...

You have to be kidding. You call that a prediction? Have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Until he proves he can't do the job? This is what you have to suggest that Manning will be one of the 5 best.

How about Manning proves that he still has it?

Are you seriously using this article to show that "experts" think Manning is still a top 5 QB? You're so called experts citations are a joke.

[OlBlu]

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You have to be kidding. You call that a prediction? Have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Until he proves he can't do the job? This is what you have to suggest that Manning will be one of the 5 best.

How about Manning proves that he still has it?

Are you seriously using this article to show that "experts" think Manning is still a top 5 QB? You're so called experts citations are a joke.

Yes, all experts who disagree with you must be a joke. Well, I think all of the one's who agree with you are an even bigger joke.
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[OlBlu]

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Where I disagree with a whole lot of you here is that you have to suck to eventually be good. That doesn't work at basketball (see Lakers, Boston and Miami) or in football, see Green Bay, New England, NY Giants and Pittsburgh. They don't tear down like this completely where it takes years to get back to being competitive. They just keep on winning and winning and playing for championships. The difference is the owners and the management. The Colts don't have it and those other teams do. Baltimore is another to add to that list. What do we do? We dump arguably the best QB to ever play the game and jettison every veteran and bring in rookies and rejects to take their place. These other teams do not do that. They plan better. They draft better. They trade better and they get ready better. The Colts have gone all the way back to the worst Jeff George years (yes, he was the "can't miss phenom" of his age). Then you add that the owner lied to the fans about it and I will continue to watch just to be amused by you all hear when you start crying the blues about the eighth game or so...... Perhaps sooner.... ...

[ilive4sports]

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The Giants didn't suck before they started winning? What? Thats complete ********. They were tied for the worst record in the league the year before they drafted Eli! Then they were only 2 games better the next year. The Steelers were a stellar 6-10 the year before they drafted Big Ben. Guess how good Baltimore was before Joe Flacco came to town? A blazing 5-11!

[OlBlu]

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The Giants didn't suck before they started winning? What? Thats complete ********. They were tied for the worst record in the league the year before they drafted Eli! Then they were only 2 games better the next year. The Steelers were a stellar 6-10 the year before they drafted Big Ben. Guess how good Baltimore was before Joe Flacco came to town? A blazing 5-11!

Baltimore was good before Flacco got there. Yes, the Giants went down when they drafted Eli and then came right back up. You will be dreaming about 5-11 after you watch this current crew show their stuff. I don't call those two records as tearing down the team and starting over. The Colts won two games last year. They might not win any games this year. I expect a three year total of about ten wins give or take a couple.... ...

[speakout4]

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Yes, all experts who disagree with you must be a joke. Well, I think all of the one's who agree with you are an even bigger joke.
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Clearly this one is a joke because all he said was that Manning was good in the past and he expects him to be good still as if nothing has happened in the last two years. Hardly a testimonial but you grasp on to it as if this was an enlightened piece of information. If these are the so called experts you cite you are on thin ice.

[ilive4sports]

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Baltimore was good before Flacco got there. Yes, the Giants went down when they drafted Eli and then came right back up. You will be dreaming about 5-11 after you watch this current crew show their stuff. I don't call those two records as tearing down the team and starting over. The Colts won two games last year. They might not win any games this year. I expect a three year total of about ten wins give or take a couple.... ... Shift+R improves the quality of this image. CTRL+F5 reloads the whole page.

The Colts won 2 games last year because Peyton Manning missed the entire season and we stuck with Painter at QB.

In 2008, the Detroit Lions went 0-16. In 2009 they went 2-14. The next season they went 6-10 with their starting QB being injured. In 2011 they go 10-6 and make the playoffs. The Lions were horrific in 2008, worse than the Colts last year. Yet made a huge turn around and made if FAST. To say teh Colts will win 10 games over the next 3 years is a ****ing joke.

I don't know why I am even trying honestly. Its pointless to have a conversation with you.