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@WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!
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Likewise. Two seasons in a row Pacers made play-offs, and played good basketball. Even with Dipo's injury, that crippled the offense, Pacers defense was ELITE. So, if Pacers are willing to compete in so-so East, who cares about mid 20s draft pick? Raptors won everything last season cause they were stacked, plus Kawhi. Pacers are building up - good. Now I need to check the dude cause I didn't see him play much, just heard the name.12-12-2018, 09:20 PM
Myles Turner during Vic's postgame interview: "Tell you what the East is in trouble now boy"
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It’s not that it’s no big deal, it’s just, what value player is going to be able to stop Greek and KD? How many players in this league can stop them period? Especially KD (since Greek still has shooting issues)?
Oftentimes the athletes that can stop those types aren’t great scorers, in which case their efforts are in vain anyway as the stars’ teammates pick up the slack and the other team can’t keep up because they’ve got a Roberson or a Tony Allen out there handicapping the offense.Last edited by SaintLouisan; 06-30-2019, 11:01 PM.Comment
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Yeah but you still need this type of players, putting Sabonis out there and making him guard people like KD/Giannis is a disservice to the guy, everybody and their mom know he can’t guard them so what is the point of trying that lineup if you can’t use it when it matters?
The Greek and KD are in the east to stay let’s see who the Pacers get to help out on this front.@WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!Comment
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Heck yes! I love Brogdon. I didn't think he was attainable. I like his pickup more than any of the point guard options, including D'Angelo Russell.
This dude is a big time winner. His nickname is The President, and he's already VP of the NBPA Executive Committee. He is the most solid dude all the way around. He wins everywhere he goes. It's very similar to Shane Battier.
I love, love, love the idea of pairing him with Victor Oladipo. I actually think it's possible we start him at shooting guard while VO is out. Don't be surprised if we sign a veteran PG on a one-year deal.
For the people who haven't seen him play; I think you'll like him. He'll hit big time shots, he'll play the right way, and he won't make mistakes. He has the potential to be our best point guard in 20+ years. Warning: not that he's not a good passer, because he is, but he's not a pass-first point guard. He'll make the right read and right setup, but he's not getting 7 assists a game. That's not a big deal in our offense.Comment
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No one is going to stop Giannis completely, but reducing his effectiveness isn't hard if you focus on preventing him from scoring in the paint. That is something Sabonis can do.
KD is a different issue, but I'm going to wait to see how good he is after he comes back from his injury before I worry too much about it.Comment
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I think Myles on Giannis is actually a pretty good match-up. Myles can limit him at the rim and Giannis isn't a great outside threat.Comment
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We have plenty of young talents in Bitadze, Holiday, Johnson, Sumner and Leaf plus Bowen on a two-way contract and a d-league team. We could skip next year and be fine considering being outside the lottery as I dare to believe.I don't care about the 2nd round picks ( we have a whole bunch of them ). But the 1st round pick?
Anyone have any idea about the protections on the 1st round pick?
I only bring this up because the last time that we traded our 1st round pick for another young but pseudo PG to a Playoff Team, it didn't end up well.
NOTE - I know it's not exactly the same....but you get my point.Comment
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why do the pacers need to send draft pick to get brogdon? He is a restricted free agent so why?Comment
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I really, really, really like this move. Brogdon has some injury concerns but he really fits the bill as a second creator in the backcourt and he also provides elite shooting with solid defense. And hes 26. And he also happens to be a fantastic guy off the court. It's a homerun in my opinion.
The Pacers have had a pretty good off season. I will give them credit for that. It still remains to be seen if ownership will give Kevin Pritchard the resources he needs to build something special here, but I am certainly impressed with Kevin Pritchard, and maybe I need to give him more credit. He has certainly exceeded my expectations. Hopefully he earns the combination to Herb Simon's vault.
i also want to point out that Malcolm Brogdon is a fantastic fit alongside Aaron Holiday in the back court and this addition could help him tremendously moving forward. We might see a lot of those two early in the season while waiting for Vic to get back, and those three might all be getting heavy minutes in a virtual 3 guard rotation. They all just fit together, really well.
I'm a little curious about our forwards from here on out. Is it Warren and McDermott at the 3 now? Is it Sabonis and Leaf at the 4? Or is it gonna be a lot of TJ Warren at the 4? Is Jeremy Lamb gonna play any 3? It will be interesting to see it play out. We will be able to matchup much better with some of the upper echelon teams now.
One thing is for sure, we are a much more versatile team than we were a month ago. We just have much more size and athleticism to be able to matchup and switch on defense. And we seem better equipped to score the ball as well, with or without Vic on the court.
The key for the Pacers is gonna be the development of this new group of perimeter guys we have, on the defensive end of the floor. If Brogdon, Holiday, Sumner, Oladipo, Lamb, Warren and McDermott can lock people down, we look to have plenty of offense to be quite a challenge. I like that group, and can more easily stomach the presence of McDermott because he could have a tough time getting minutes next year. If he isn't going to be assertive and show some intensity on the defensive end, we have other options to go with now.
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Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.Comment
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I'm guessing that it's been mentioned already. But I suspect that if the Jazz didn't force the Pacers hand and the Pacers were able to re-sign Bojan, it wouldn't surprise me if we did go forward with signing Rubio.
I guess it's possible that Rubio could still have signed with the Suns for a bigger offer regardless. But this S&T of Brogdon literally came out of nowhere at the last second ( which really took all of us by surprise ). I have to wonder if the wheels started turning after it became known that the Jazz were making a real run at Bojan and that the FO had to shift gears and pivot unexpectedly.
I just look at the situation and wonder if the Pacers started looking at the direction that the Bucks were going with Middleton and BroLo and seized the chance to get Brogdon ( of course, at a price ).Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.Comment
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I don't know how good a source this is, but WISHTV says it's a 2020 first round pick.
The Pacers will be sending a 2020 first-round pick and two future second-round picks to the Bucks as part of the tradeComment
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