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  • Gamble1
    Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 7265

    #6046
    Johnson and johnson covid 19 vaccine hit the pause button today after one participant had an unexplained illness.

    The study of Johnson & Johnsonโ€™s Covid-19 vaccine has been paused due to an unexplained illness in a study participant. A document sent to outside


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    • CJ Jones
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 9259

      #6047
      Wow Florida's ****ed



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      • Peck
        Administrator
        • Jan 2004
        • 20053

        #6048
        You know it's amazing how the Caronavirus only seems to spread at Republican functions according to you guys. Amazing how nobody seems to care about these mostly maskless close together yelling and screaming (thus aerosolysing) fine group of humans.

        https://twitter.com/MORNINGSTARdj/st...344866816?s=20



        Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13

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        • Sollozzo
          Member
          • Jan 2004
          • 27523

          #6049
          Originally posted by Peck
          You know it's amazing how the Caronavirus only seems to spread at Republican functions according to you guys. Amazing how nobody seems to care about these mostly maskless close together yelling and screaming (thus aerosolysing) fine group of humans.

          https://twitter.com/MORNINGSTARdj/st...344866816?s=20
          I guess you havenโ€™t figured out by now that the virus is selectively woke depending on the gathering?

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          • shags
            Member
            • Nov 2004
            • 6057

            #6050
            Originally posted by Peck
            You know it's amazing how the Caronavirus only seems to spread at Republican functions according to you guys. Amazing how nobody seems to care about these mostly maskless close together yelling and screaming (thus aerosolysing) fine group of humans.

            https://twitter.com/MORNINGSTARdj/st...344866816?s=20
            I saw this and thought it was a super spreader event. Incredibly stupid behavior. Like the chant, though.

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            • vapacersfan
              Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 8617

              #6051
              Originally posted by Gamble1
              Johnson and johnson covid 19 vaccine hit the pause button today after one participant had an unexplained illness.

              The study of Johnson & Johnsonโ€™s Covid-19 vaccine has been paused due to an unexplained illness in a study participant. A document sent to outside

              This may be a stupid question but is this common? Did this get publicity because we are tracking a COVID vaccine so closely or is this truly abnormal?

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              • vnzla81
                Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 69524

                #6052
                Ronaldo got corona


                @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                • Gamble1
                  Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 7265

                  #6053
                  Originally posted by vapacersfan

                  This may be a stupid question but is this common? Did this get publicity because we are tracking a COVID vaccine so closely or is this truly abnormal?
                  Not an expert in this so take this for what it is worth but it is common in very large studies. There are 60, 000 people in this clinical trial and it is just a pause.

                  My point in posting this is that the more we have delays the less likely we have a vaccine by November.

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                  • graphic-er
                    I'm on a MAC!
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 12383

                    #6054
                    Originally posted by vapacersfan

                    This may be a stupid question but is this common? Did this get publicity because we are tracking a COVID vaccine so closely or is this truly abnormal?
                    Mostly normal stuff, you just never hear about it because most vaccines are developed out of the public eye. Its quite common to have vaccine trials produce certain illnesses. They now have to establish if the illness was specifically due to being exposed to the vaccine. Or was it something the person contracted else where, or was it just completely random illness, they also have to look at if this person received a real version of the vaccine or did they get the placebo? And they have to survey all other participants for any of these symptoms that the person has developed. If no other patterns or connections are discovered it might just be chalked up to a random side effect caused in random person.

                    Even your everyday flu vaccine lists a number of possible rare complications. That's why so many anti-vaxers are skeptical of the industry on things like Autism. They experts say their isn't any known link between vaccines and autism. The truth is...they haven't actually bothered to study it. Nobody wants to fund such a study because the results could be too damaging to the Vaccine makers and research labs, and the Vaccine companies fund of research grants. So nobody wants to **** them off and be blacklisted in their industry.

                    I'm not anti-vaccines, but I do understand that there is a certain level of Russian roulette to vaccines. There are too many stories out there where healthy and bright kids suddenly develop irreversible mental abnormalities, shortly after receiving Vaccines. Kids that can talk, reason, and laugh, suddenly go mute or their cognitive abilities completely change. Or kids that suddenly lose a great deal of their motor skills. Its a harrowing situation for parents, and its abhorrent that experts simply will not acknowledge their situation. I've even read articles where doctors will say oh your child must have already had this and you just didn't recognize it. The entire medical industry toes the line on this. I think the reality is the class action lawsuits that would come from a study on this would destroy the entire industry.
                    You can't get champagne from a garden hose.

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                    • vnzla81
                      Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 69524

                      #6055
                      This clown is laughing at the misery of others, the worse.



                      @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                      • Sollozzo
                        Member
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 27523

                        #6056
                        OMG, he snickered like pretty much every politician in debate history when their opponent made a point they disagreed with. The horror!

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                        • vnzla81
                          Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 69524

                          #6057
                          Originally posted by Sollozzo
                          OMG, he snickered like pretty much every politician in debate history when their opponent made a point they disagreed with. The horror!
                          She is literally talking about covid deaths and he is laughing.


                          Either way both of them are trash and I wish neither one were part of politics or anything close to it.
                          @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                          • BlueNGold
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 32249

                            #6058
                            Originally posted by vnzla81

                            She is literally talking about covid deaths and he is laughing.


                            Either way both of them are trash and I wish neither one were part of politics or anything close to it.
                            And you think any of these politicians really care? Some just lie well enough to fool you.

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                            • Bball
                              Jimmy did what Jimmy did
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 26985

                              #6059
                              WHO leader (Not Pete Townsend and Roger Daltrey) declares herd immunity strategy "'unethical'"

                              Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said during a virtual press briefing that "herd immunity is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached"...
                              ..."Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it," Mr Tedros said.

                              "Never in the history of public health has herd immunity been used as a strategy for responding to an outbreak, let alone a pandemic," he insisted.


                              More at link:
                              The World Health Organization chief has warned against suggestions by some to just allow Covid-19 to spread in the hope of achieving so-called herd immunity, saying this was "unethical".
                              Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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                              "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatโ€™s teamwork."

                              -John Wooden

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                              • BlueNGold
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 32249

                                #6060
                                Originally posted by Bball
                                WHO leader (Not Pete Townsend and Roger Daltrey) declares herd immunity strategy "'unethical'"

                                Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said during a virtual press briefing that "herd immunity is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached"...
                                ..."Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it," Mr Tedros said.

                                "Never in the history of public health has herd immunity been used as a strategy for responding to an outbreak, let alone a pandemic," he insisted.


                                More at link:
                                https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1012/11...ovid19-global/
                                Peter Townsend and Roger Daltrey could probably run the World Health Organization better. Tedros is beholden to China and should have demanded that China open up to international investigators.

                                Oh, and the W.H.O. just said lockdowns are terrible. Once again the scientists change their guidance.

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