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We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

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There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

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It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

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We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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  • #106
    College basketball rankings: Purdue jumps to No. 1 in Top 25 And 1 after Alabama beats top-ranked Houston - CBSSports.com


    Houston

    The Boilermakers are the new No. 1 team in the Top 25 And 1 after the Crimson Tide upset the Cougars



    By Gary Parrish

    10 hrs ago•1 min read
    Nate Oats hasin short order turned Alabama into a consistent winner that's committed to a style that makes the Crimson Tide a dangerous matchup for anybody.

    They play fast. They shoot 3-pointers. They guard.

    They're really good.

    Houston became the latest program to see it up close Saturday. That's when Alabama rallied from a 15-point deficit in the second half to record a 71-65 victory inside the Fertitta Center that qualifies as a monster Quadrant-1 win on the road.

    "This is one of those character-wins that shows that our guys are going to keep fighting no matter what the score is," Oats said. "We could have easily given up [when we were] down 15. The start of the second half wasn't great. [But] we made some changes with the bench guys, hung in there, kept clawing away at the lead, [and we were] finally able to take the lead. And then we pulled away from them."

    The most remarkable aspect of Alabama's improbable win was how the Crimson Tide recorded it without getting a single made-basket from their leading scorer, Brandon Miller. The five-star freshman took eight shots and missed all eight of them. Regardless, Alabama was able to secure a second victory in a 14-day span over a team ranked No. 1 in the Associated Press Top 25 poll. Two Sundays ago, Alabama beat then-No. 1 North Carolina in four overtimes.

    "Not sure how many teams get the chance to play two No. 1 teams in non-conference, let alone beat them," Oats said. "But I think that it shows where we've gotten this program to [and] that we can play with anyone in the country, at this point."

    Alabama is up to No. 4 in Sunday morning's updated CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings — one spot behind the only team that's topped the Crimson Tide this season, No. 3 UConn. Purdue replaces Houston as the new No. 1 in the Top 25 And 1. Virginia is now No. 2. Houston is now No. 5.
    Top 25 And 1 rankings
    1
    PURDUE    		 Zach Edey finished with 11 points and 17 rebounds in Saturday's 65-62 win at Nebraska. The Boilermakers' next game is Saturday against Davidson. 1 10-0
    2
    VIRGINIA    		 Jayden Gardner finished with 14 points and eight rebounds in Tuesday's 55-50 win over James Madison. The Cavaliers' next game is Dec. 17 against Houston. 1 8-0
    3
    UCONN    		 Donovan Clingan finished with21 points and 11 rebounds in Saturday's 114-61 win over Long Island University. The Huskies' next game is Saturday at Butler. 1 11-0
    4
    ALABAMA    		 Noah Clowney had 16 points and 11 rebounds in Saturday's 71-65 win over Houston. The Crimson Tide's next game is Tuesday vs. Memphis. 4 8-1
    5
    HOUSTON    		 Houston missed 10 of the 13 3-pointers it attempted in Saturday's 71-65 loss to Alabama. The Cougars' next game is Tuesday against North Carolina A&T. 4 9-1
    6
    TEXAS    		 Chrstian Bishop finished with 16 points and nine rebounds in Saturday's 88-43 win over Arkansas-Pine Bluff. The Longhorns' next game is Monday against Rice. -- 7-1
    7
    ARKANSAS    		 Ricky Council IV finished with 26 points and five assists in Saturday's 88-78 win over Oklahoma. The Razorbacks' next game is Saturday against Bradley. -- 9-1
    8
    ARIZONA    		 Azuolas Tubelis finished with 21 points and seven rebounds in Saturday's 89-75 win over Indiana. The Wildcats' next game is Tuesday against Texas A&M Corpus Christie. 7 8-1
    9
    MISS. ST.    		 Tolu Smith finished with 24 points and six rebounds in Saturday's 82-52 win over Mississippi Valley State. The Bulldogs' next game is Sunday at Minnesota. -- 8-0
    10
    INDIANA    		 Indiana allowed Arizona to shoot 49.2% from the field in Saturday's 89-65 loss to the Wildcats. The Hoosiers' next game is Saturday at Kansas. -- 8-2
    11
    BAYLOR    		 Keyonte George finished with 22 points and six assists in Tuesday's 80-57 win over Tarleton State. The Bears' next game is Sunday against Washington State. -- 7-2
    12
    GONZAGA    		 Drew Timme finished with 22 points and seven rebounds in Friday's 77-60 win over Washington. The Zags' next game is Monday against Northern Illinois. -- 7-3
    13
    MARYLAND    		 Maryland finished with 14 turnovers and nine assists in Tuesday's 64-59 loss at Wisconsin. The Terrapins' next game is Sunday against Tennessee. -- 8-2
    14
    KENTUCKY    		 Oscar Tshiebwe finished with 28 points and 12 rebounds in Saturday's 69-59 win over Yale. The Wildcats' next game is Saturday against UCLA. -- 7-2
    15
    TENNESSEE    		 Tyreke Key finished with 17 points and three rebounds in Wednesday's 84-49 win over Eastern Kentucky. The Vols' next game is Sunday against Maryland. 1 9-1
    16
    KANSAS    		 Jalen Wilson finished with 24 points and 10 rebounds in Saturday's 95-67 win at Missouri. The Jayhawks' next game is Saturday against Indiana. 1 9-1
    17
    DUKE    		 Dariq Whitehead finished with 15 points and two assists in Saturday's 82-55 win over Maryland-Eastern Shore. The Blue Devils' next game is Dec. 20 at Wake Forest. 1 10-2
    18
    ILLINOIS    		 Illinois allowed Penn State to shoot 50% from the field in Saturday's 74-59 loss to the Nittany Lions. The Illini's next game is Saturday against Alabama A&M. 13 7-3
    19
    UCLA    		 Jaylen Clark finished with 24 points and four rebounds in Saturday's 87-64 win over Denver. The Bruins' next game is Wednesday at Maryland. -- 8-2
    20
    MARQUETTE    		 Olivier-Maxence Prosper finished with 25 points and four rebounds in Tuesday's 90-78 win over North Carolina Central. The Golden Eagles' next game is Sunday at Notre Dame. 3 8-3
    21
    OHIO ST.    		 Zed Key finished with 22 points and 14 rebounds in Thursday's 67-66 win over Rutgers. The Buckeyes' next game is Dec. 17 against North Carolina. 3 7-2
    22
    TEXAS TECH    		 Pop Isaacs finished with 24 points and three assists in Wednesday's 78-71 win over Nicholls. The Red Raiders' next game is Tuesday against Eastern Washington. 3 6-2
    23
    WISCONSIN    		 Chucky Hepburn finished with 13 points and four rebounds in Tuesday's 64-59 win over Maryland. The Badgers' next game is Sunday at Iowa. 3 8-2
    24
    XAVIER    		 Souley Boum finished with 21 points and six rebounds in Saturday's 80-77 win at Cincinnati. The Musketeers' next game is Tuesday against Southern. NR 7-3
    25
    WEST VIRGINIA    		 Emmitt Matthews finished with 16 points and nine rebounds in Saturday's 81-70 win over UAB. The Mountaineers' next game is Dec. 18 against Buffalo. NR 8-2
    26
    MIAMI (FLA.)    		 Jordan Miller finished with 25 points and five rebounds in Saturday's 80-73 win over NC State. The Hurricanes' next game is Saturday against St. Francis. NR 10-1
    IN: Xavier, West Virginia, Miami
    OUT: Auburn, San Diego State, Creighton
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    • #107
      A delay this morning in the polls. I'm guessing it's going to be UConn, Purdue, VA 1-2-3, on the AP side anyway

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      • #108
        Derp, I was wrong, they have us #1

        https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...op-5/51067195/
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        • #109
          BOILER UP!!!
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          • #110
            Ryan Walters, Illinois DC new coach...i guess dark horse candidate but looks fine...i'm more of an offense guy as far as football goes, but whatever

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            • #111
              Originally posted by dal9 View Post
              Ryan Walters, Illinois DC new coach...i guess dark horse candidate but looks fine...i'm more of an offense guy as far as football goes, but whatever
              not sure how i feel about this...wanna believe that it will work out...

              yet...i dunno
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              • #112
                I'm guessing they couldn't get whomever they wanted that had previous coaching experience so they decided to roll the dice and Walters' number came up. I have no idea how he will fare

                Maryland getting spanked at home by UCLA, down almost 30 right before end of 1st half

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                • #113
                  Drew Brees to serve as Purdue assistant for Citrus Bowl (espn.com)


                  Drew Brees to serve as Purdue assistant for Citrus Bowl




                  12:06 PM ET

                  • Blake BaumgartnerESPN Staff Writer

                  Drew Brees will help with the coaching transition at Purdue, serving as an assistant coach for the Boilermakers as they prepare for and play in the Cheez-It Citrus Bowl on Jan. 2.

                  "I am extremely excited to work with our team over the next few weeks as we prepare for the Citrus Bowl," Brees said in a statement. "I see it not only as an opportunity to coach and mentor this group of young men, but represent all the former Purdue players that care so much about our program."

                  Brees, 43, who was hired as a countable assistant under NCAA guidelines, is permitted to work with student-athletes as well as participate in recruiting activities.
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                  • QB O'Connell among 4 from Purdue to skip Citrus

                  Before embarking on an illustrious 20-year NFL career with the Chargers and Saints, Brees left West Lafayette after the 2000 season as one of the most decorated quarterbacks in program and Big Ten history. He ended his college career as the conference's leader in passing yards, touchdowns, total offensive yards, completions and attempts.

                  In 2011, the Big Ten named its quarterback of the year award after Brees and Bob Griese, another famous Purdue signal-caller. Brees ranks second in NFL history in career passing yards (80,358) and touchdown passes (571).

                  "For more than two decades, Drew Brees has shown the world what makes the Boilermakers special," athletic director Mike Bobinski said. "He was an elite football player, but most of all, Drew is an extraordinary leader. Gaining his insights on the football field and in our coaching offices during this time of transition will be of great value to our student-athletes and staff."

                  Jeff Brohm left Purdue for Louisville, his alma mater, last week after guiding the Boilermakers for six seasons. His tenure was highlighted by winning the Big Ten West this season.

                  New head coach Ryan Walters, the fifth-youngest coach in FBS, has said that offensive coordinator Brian Brohm will serve as the interim head coach for the bowl game, with co-defensive coordinator Mark Hagen also calling plays against No. 17 LSU.

                  Brian Brohm is the younger brother of Jeff Brohm.

                  Walters said he will be watching practices, hiring assistants, recruiting and starting to prepare for next season.

                  "When I first heard about Drew coming back to help coach our guys for the bowl game, I was hoping the rumors were true," Walters said. "Our players have the opportunity to learn from one of the greatest leaders in football history, a valuable experience that they will never forget. Drew taking time out of his busy schedule to coach the bowl game is a perfect example of Purdue football being one big family, and I cannot wait to see him on the sidelines in Orlando."

                  Quarterback Aidan O'Connell, wide receiver Charlie Jones, tight end Payne Durham and cornerback Corey Trice all have announced they'll be skipping the game against the Tigers.
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                  • #114
                    10 white guys in the two starting lineups...pretty jarring tbh
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                    • #115
                      pretty typical finals week game...think we'll pull it out tho

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                      • #116
                        New Purdue Head Coach Ryan Walters taps WVU Offensive Coordinator Graham Harrell for the OC role at Purdue. Harrell
                        is a protege of Mike Leach

                        https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...h/69734532007/

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                        • #117
                          Originally posted by Dab View Post
                          New Purdue Head Coach Ryan Walters taps WVU Offensive Coordinator Graham Harrell for the OC role at Purdue. Harrell
                          is a protege of Mike Leach

                          https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...h/69734532007/
                          leach seemed like an *******, but hopefully that part wasn't passed down

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                          • #118
                            Whoa, Iowa loses at home to Eastern Illinois. The Hawkeyes were a 31.5 point favorite
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                            • #119
                              Edey out against New Orleans with the flu, Boilers struggling

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                              • #120
                                Purdue figures out Life without Edey, switches gears, goes on a 24 - 2 run and goes into halftime up twenty

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