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I read your article. My sister has been in the medical field for over 30 years, working as nurse, nurse manager and an administrator of a surgery center. As an administrator, she learned the details of billing practices and health insurance in the industry.
she had insurance so her actual amount was much less, but what if you didn’t? Very real scenario that will scare thousands of people away from the medical system. Imagine being the working poor and being told you can’t work for 3 weeks due to quarantine. Trust me plenty of workers will be fearing for their lively hoods. They will keep their illness a secret as long as they can.
another huge problem with all these schools closing. 40% of Nurses have school aged children. What percentage will be able to find adequate affordable childcare? A very small one. So we will have an over worked Nursing force who will be going broke at the same time?
lots of unintentional consequences to all these closures and cancellations. We can have the FED give 1.3 trillion to the banks to lend out though. Economy built on debt.
The amount quoted is a number the medical facility starts with to negotiate rates with that person's insurance company. Nobody ever pays that rate. If you come in and pay cash it may not be as low as the negotiated rate but it will never be that number. In fact, there are many providers who offer cash rates substantially lower than the negotiated rates they have with the insurance companies.
But I agree with some of your concerns. Is this confusing and can it all scare people? You bet. Is it still a problem and does the US need to fix its health insurance system? Yes.
Also, it's a very real problem for many nurses who have children at home. That puts a lot of extra stress on the medical field. There will likely be people who enter or re-enter the field to fill some gaps but it's going to be a huge challenge. I think you need to rely on people and I mean everyone keeping together to fight through it.Comment
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And about Pimpis's Obama post. I am not sure we can talk politics here, but I do know I have yet to catch him at a Joe Biden rally. For 8 years he served with Biden. Yet he is indeed silent and absent.
Oh, and no Obama isn't going back to the White House. Dude had more than enough time.Comment
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I am not sure how well we handled it so far. Some say we are good others say we are just 9 days behind Italy. It will show in the next few days if death numbers will rise dramatically, but we better be prepared cause it can go really fast all of a sudden. We are just very lucky that it hit Italy first and not us, so government was forced to do something. We are also in a better condition with hospital beds and stuff like that and our general population is younger than in Italy. I just hope it all works out. How is the situation in Greece so far?Comment
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https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ency-sick-joke
The sick joke of Donald Trump's presidency isn't funny any more
The coronavirus outbreak has revealed the full stupidity, incompetence and selfishness of the president to deadly effect
For three long years the world has been treated to the sick joke of Donald Trump’s presidency. Some days were more sick than others. But now the joke is over.
So is the entire facade of the Trump White House: the gold-plated veneer of power and grift will be stripped bare by a global pandemic and recession.
Of all the obituaries we’ll read in the next several weeks, every one will be more meaningful than the political end of a former reality-TV star.
But make no mistake. The humanitarian crisis about to unfold will consume what’s left of this president and the Republican party that surrendered its self-respect and sense of duty to flatter his ego and avoid his angry tweets.
Trump was right about one thing, and only one thing, as the coronavirus started to spread across the world. The sight of thousands of dead Americans will hurt him politically. It will also hurt many thousands of Americans in reality.
Multiple reports have detailed how Trump did not just ignore the growing pandemic; he actively sought to block his own officials’ attempts to track and stop it. Why has there been such a disastrous lack of testing? Because the president didn’t want to know the answer, and because his staff were too busy fighting each other to do the right thing.
“The boss has made it clear he likes to see his people fight, and he wants the news to be good,” Politico reported one Trump health adviser saying. “This is the world he’s made.”
Never mind a world turned upside down by fear and death. Trump’s world is upended by his gobsmackingly childish comments about how the whole thing will blow over. “It’s going to disappear,” he told one reception inside the White House just two weeks ago. “One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
The only miracle of this presidency is that it’s taken so long for this country to wake up to the catastrophe.
How could we have known that Trump would deny the resources to deal with a disaster, deny the truth about the death toll, and denounce anyone daring to tell the truth?
It wasn’t hard to know. After Hurricane Maria devastated the American island of Puerto Rico in September of his first year in office, Trump gave himself a 10 for his response to the devastation. He also said he couldn’t keep the military in Puerto Rico forever, which was news to the national guard.
At the very time he was bragging about his response and trashing his own citizens, more than 3,000 Americans were dying on the island because of Trump’s botched response to the hurricane. Those Americans were our most vulnerable citizens: the sick and elderly, who lost power, lacked medicine or needed a hospital bed when the hospitals were stricken.
Those are the same Americans who face the greatest peril in the coming weeks from the same toxic mix of callousness and incompetence from the same sociopathic president.
This is everyone’s catastrophe and one man’s calamity. For Trump, there is no escaping the stench of failure that seeps through every unmade decision, every fumbled response, and every unhinged tweet.
This is a president who can’t formulate a coherent coronavirus policy, and can’t even read the words written for him on a prompter.
One paragraph from Wednesday’s disastrous Oval Office address managed to only worsen the political pathogen that is his presidency.
“There will be exemptions for Americans who have undergone appropriate screenings,” he explained about his new travel ban from Europe, ignoring the reality that he limited all testing so there are no appropriate screenings.
“And these prohibitions will not only apply to the tremendous amount of trade and cargo, but various other things as we get approval,” he added, wiping out many billions in transatlantic trade – and various other things – with one flap of his lips.
“Anything coming from Europe to the United States is what we are discussing,” he explained in case anyone had any doubt about his economic stupidity.
“These restrictions will also not apply to the United Kingdom.” Ah yes, the British immunity to coronavirus is a well-documented medical fact. British people who play golf on a Trump course are especially healthy individuals.
If Trump was trying to reassure the markets, he failed, like he always does. Even the Federal Reserve magicking $1.5tn out of thin air could not stop the stock market from suffering its worst single day since the 1987 crash.
“This was the most expensive speech in history,” one investment strategist toldthe Financial Times.
There is hope amid the horror: an election in just eight months when Americans can vote for a return to the once-normal life of a competent government. Joe Biden’s response on Thursday was a stark reminder of what presidents and vice-presidents used to sound like.
“We’ll lead with science,” the former vice-president said. “We’ll listen to the experts. We’ll heed their advice.” It all sounded so shockingly novel. “We’ll build American leadership and rebuild it to rally the world to meet global threats that we are likely to face again. And I’ll always tell you the truth.”
The truth: it’s getting harder to remember a time when we expected our leaders to say such things.
In the meantime, before January 2021, the world faces two deadly diseases: a pandemic and a pathetically incompetent president.
On Thursday, as schools shut down and troops took to the streets of a New York suburb, Trump of course bragged about himself in ways that made you wonder about his own medical condition.
“I mean, think of it: the United States, because of what I did and what the administration did with China, we have 32 deaths at this point,” he said in the Oval Office. “Thirty-two is a lot. Thirty-two is too many. But when you look at the kind of numbers that you’re seeing coming out of other countries, it’s pretty amazing when you think of it.”
And you know what? Instead of thinking about preparing thousands of new hospital beds, or millions of virus tests, Trump has probably committed the largest part of his brain to thinking about that number. That very tiny number, so small compared to the rest of the world, that represents the full measure of his compassion.Last edited by pimpis zajoba; 03-14-2020, 09:20 AM.Comment
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Elect a clown and you are going to get a circus.
It only took three years to destroy the economy congrats to everybody
@WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!
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Lol, historic growth for three years so his opponents are celebrating a virus wrecking the economy. Just a bizarre and downright creepy reaction. Obviously the policies were working great, that is fact that cannot be debated. No policy opposition to him or the policies was putting a dent in the economic growth, so let’s pop champagne about a virus doing it...
It seems like some people are going to be genuinely depressed if this doesn’t wreck the US economic system. Again, just a creepy and bizarre reaction.Comment
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The economy is not destroyed. Trump has nothing to do with this virus.
As for the economy, it might not be the bottom but there is a huge buying opportunity this year in the stock market. It might be later. Anyway, however you feel about Trump he's not at fault for a virus coming out of China. If anything restricting travel probably limited the spread. He's been fantastic for the economy.Comment
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About Trump cutting the pandemic response team. Cutting and eliminating are two different things. It was probably dead wood and besides the best people were probably kept and could train up others rather quickly. Probably better people under the circumstances and if the economy is supposedly so bad it would be a great pool of candidates compared to the dead wood that would fill those positions.Comment
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