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That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

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In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

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  • #61
    Originally posted by BlueNGold View Post
    So there are some people misconstruing Trump's statements on both sides of the aisle. Is that your point? If so, I agree!

    Look V, I only deal in facts. The left HAS tried to use the virus to attack Trump. The left HAS tried to use ANYTHING to attack Trump. The fact the virus has caused us all problems, isn't Trump's fault.
    Trump is a lying blowhard orange traitor....he is an embarrasment to every decent American ...i know for a fact that Domas and all the Pacers would refuse to visit the White House after winning Championship ...think about that.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by BornIndy View Post
      If I get the coronavirus, that's it for me. I can't afford to go the hospital. Last time I went to the ER for something kind of small and the bill was ridiculous. They barely did anything.
      If you get the virus, you have a very small chance of long term effect or death. With that said, everyone here has a 100% chance of death. Maybe not via the virus but death, unlike the Pacers, has a perfect record. Put that into perspective.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by BlueNGold View Post

        If you get the virus, you have a very small chance of long term effect or death. With that said, everyone here has a 100% chance of death. Maybe not via the virus but death, unlike the Pacers, has a perfect record. Put that into perspective.
        Death is undefeated ...but we can and will send trump (and his family) to jail in 2021....#LockHimUp

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        • #64
          Originally posted by pimpis zajoba View Post

          Trump is a lying blowhard orange traitor....he is an embarrasment to every decent American ...i know for a fact that Domas and all the Pacers would refuse to visit the White House after winning Championship ...think about that.
          Let me break down your many adjectives for him.

          1) Lying. I think he does lie, but not any more than most politicians. Far less than Hillary who is always measuring her words for her audience regardless of truth.
          2) Blowhard. I agree. Big deal.
          3) Orange. Again, I agree. It's irrelevant though.
          4) Traitor. I fully disagree. He is a nationalist, about the opposite of being a traitor. Anyone who says he's a traitor is dead wrong.
          5) Embarrassment. To some people yes. To others, they just care what he does. Of course some of his statements are silly. But what he does matters to me. People need to get past his blowhard nature and just follow what he does.

          So, I really see little problem or at least less than Joe Biden. Let's do it for Joe.

          1) Lying. He was in charge of Ukraine during the Obama administration. Interestingly, his drug addict son with no experience at all in the industry got a $600K/yr position on the board of a huge oil and gas company in Ukraine. This went on for years. That doesn't happen unless they are taking bribes. Joe lied that he had nothing to do with it but there are pictures of him golfing with his son and the executives of that company. He's flat out lying about it. I'm not even going to bring up China which involved more money but less proof.

          2) Blowhard. Yes, he blows off. He has so many ridiculous gaffes I'm not even listing them.

          3) Orange. No, Joe is pale like he's close to death or he's just freaking old.

          4) Traitor. Yes, I think he sold influence to his office/position. That's like the definition of traitor.

          5) Embarrassment. Not really. He's not getting elected because the dude has dementia and I don't think the young Bernie voters are coming out for him. But the debates may turn out to be embarrassing for him.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by BlueNGold View Post

            Let me break down your many adjectives for him.

            1) Lying. I think he does lie, but not any more than most politicians. Far less than Hillary who is always measuring her words for her audience regardless of truth.
            2) Blowhard. I agree. Big deal.
            3) Orange. Again, I agree. It's irrelevant though.
            4) Traitor. I fully disagree. He is a nationalist, about the opposite of being a traitor. Anyone who says he's a traitor is dead wrong.
            5) Embarrassment. To some people yes. To others, they just care what he does. Of course some of his statements are silly. But what he does matters to me. People need to get past his blowhard nature and just follow what he does.

            So, I really see little problem or at least less than Joe Biden. Let's do it for Joe.

            1) Lying. He was in charge of Ukraine during the Obama administration. Interestingly, his drug addict son with no experience at all in the industry got a $600K/yr position on the board of a huge oil and gas company in Ukraine. This went on for years. That doesn't happen unless they are taking bribes. Joe lied that he had nothing to do with it but there are pictures of him golfing with his son and the executives of that company. He's flat out lying about it. I'm not even going to bring up China which involved more money but less proof.

            2) Blowhard. Yes, he blows off. He has so many ridiculous gaffes I'm not even listing them.

            3) Orange. No, Joe is pale like he's close to death or he's just freaking old.

            4) Traitor. Yes, I think he sold influence to his office/position. That's like the definition of traitor.

            5) Embarrassment. Not really. He's not getting elected because the dude has dementia and I don't think the young Bernie voters are coming out for him. But the debates may turn out to be embarrassing for him.
            TRAITOR RUSSIAN AGENT/ASSET/PUPPET....Putin is the USA Daddy.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBtsNNXjBPw
            . Lying and treason

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            • #66
              Originally posted by InYaFace View Post

              I am not sure how well we handled it so far. Some say we are good others say we are just 9 days behind Italy. It will show in the next few days if death numbers will rise dramatically, but we better be prepared cause it can go really fast all of a sudden. We are just very lucky that it hit Italy first and not us, so government was forced to do something. We are also in a better condition with hospital beds and stuff like that and our general population is younger than in Italy. I just hope it all works out. How is the situation in Greece so far?
              You have only 8 deaths in 4,181 cases. You have indubitably done a great job at handling it. Here are some data -> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

              I fully believe that Germany and South Korea are the examples to follow on this one as they basically present the best case scenarios. Warding off the virus completely has proved to be nigh impossible but if you test everyone and take the necessary measures early on then you can keep the death toll low. That's the crucial part and that's what all governments should be trying to do right now. Unfortunately, not every state has as good of a health care system as Germany and South Korea.

              As for the situation in my country, it's so and so. Covid-19 has been in Greece for about 18 days. We have 228 confirmed cases and 3 confirmed deaths. It definitely isn't spreading as fast as it was spreading in Italy (Italy had over 1k cases within the first 15 days) but I'm still concerned since our health care system isn't the best due to the budget cuts that happened during the economic crisis.
              People who try to win arguments are the worst. The point of an argument isn't to find a winner, it is to find the truth.

              Originally posted by IrishPacer
              Empty vessels make the most noise.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by pimpis zajoba View Post

                TRAITOR RUSSIAN AGENT/ASSET/PUPPET....Putin is the USA Daddy.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBtsNNXjBPw
                . Lying and treason
                While this is off topic from Coronavirus...

                Trump did try to get along better with Russia, a country with a massive nuclear arsenal. Probably a good idea generally. But I do think he went too far siding with Putin.

                While Russia did try and succeed in interfering in the election, their interference was limited to making information known (e.g. Hillary's email server) to the public. Basically, exposing lying Democrats. I don't mind any politician getting exposed for lying on either side of the aisle, so I have zero problem with it.

                Finally, after years of Mueller investigations, no proof of collusion or coordination with Russia was ever found. Done.

                Edit: BTW, Trump trying to get along with Russia is because it would be to our nation's benefit to get along with them. Imagine a solid relationship with them. Sure, how he went about it is a question, but he's no traitor. He's just on the other side of the aisle from people so they're going to think that.
                Last edited by BlueNGold; 03-14-2020, 01:13 PM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by BlueNGold View Post

                  While this is off topic from Coronavirus...

                  Trump did try to get along better with Russia, a country with a massive nuclear arsenal. Probably a good idea generally. But I do think he went too far siding with Putin.

                  While Russia did try and succeed in interfering in the election, their interference was limited to making information known (e.g. Hillary's email server) to the public. Basically, exposing lying Democrats. I don't mind any politician getting exposed for lying on either side of the aisle, so I have zero problem with it.

                  Finally, after years of Mueller investigations, no proof of collusion or coordination with Russia was ever found. Done.

                  Edit: BTW, Trump trying to get along with Russia is because it would be to our nation's benefit to get along with them. Imagine a solid relationship with them. Sure, how he went about it is a question, but he's no traitor. He's just on the other side of the aisle from people so they're going to think that.
                  omg....you have fox news Hannity virus....

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Sollozzo View Post
                    Three years of market gains have not been erased. The Dow right now, even after the chaos of the last few weeks, is over 3,000 points higher than it was the day Trump took office. The S&P 500 is still higher than it was the day took office (all of this takes like two seconds to look up - pretty pathetic if you don't know this). That shows you just how incredible Trump has been for the economy. There has been virtually unprecedented panic in the market, yet it's *still* trading higher than it was three years ago when he took over, which shows just how phenomenal the gains have been since 2017. In other words, Trump's economy has been so great that there has been a bit of a buffer so far for people with these sell-offs

                    If you're someone who predicted when Trump took over that a historic virus would dent the economy, then you need to go buy lottery tickets because you have supernatural powers. I remember hearing that Mueller would get Trump - never rememebr hearing a year ago that a virus would be the thing that would dent his presdidency. Otherwise, what we've seen is a historic event with a reaction that isn't comparable to normal economic times. Obviously the Trump policies were working great in a normal environment with no viruses.

                    The fact that a reaction to an unprecedented virus is the ONLY thing that has dented the economy thus far in the Trump administration is proof that the policies were great. Facts. Indisputable. Can't be argued.
                    I am fairly well diversified in the stock market with mostly stock mutual funds and some bond heavy funds. My 3 year rate of return even after a disasterous week is 7.8%. It's just not 12% like it was. People forget that the interest compounds. It will have to get much worse before I'm worried. I consider it a good time or maybe a great time to buy stocks. We know this because people are scared senseless. Of course, it could get scarier which will lead to even better buys.

                    Here's the deal. We survived the Spanish flu without anything close to where we are medically and commercially. We survived polio. We will survive this and no it's not going to be a problem 10 years from now.

                    Edit: Alright. It's 7.8% per year. My mistake but I thought that might be obvious as good as the market has been.
                    Last edited by BlueNGold; 03-14-2020, 06:01 PM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by BlueNGold View Post

                      I am fairly well diversified in the stock market with mostly stock mutual funds and some bond heavy funds. My 3 year rate of return even after a disasterous week is 7.8%. It's just not 12% like it was. People forget that the interest compounds. It will have to get much worse before I'm worried. I consider it a good time or maybe a great time to buy stocks. We know this because people are scared senseless. Of course, it could get scarier which will lead to even better buys.

                      Here's the deal. We survived the Spanish flu without anything close to where we are medically and commercially. We survived polio. We will survive this and no it's not going to be a problem 10 years from now.
                      Lol you are on the clown wagon for that?
                      @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                      • #71
                        Things are going to get interesting here in Romania. Lots of countries around us are closing borders.

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                        • #72
                          Some people are just going to be flat out devastated if this goes away and the stock market recovers.

                          Virtually 99% of the reason for the stock market’s poor performance for the last few weeks is due to a virus which has led to unprecedented cancellations. If it goes away, the market will return to the historic success that we’ve seen throughout the Trump presidency.

                          The best thing you can say about the market is this: its *still* higher than when Trump took office even after a virus which has led to unprecedented cancellations and panic throughout the world. The Trump gains throughout 2017-2019 were so high that they’ve given investors a cushion for this sell off.

                          Must be weird feeling to root for a virus to keep the stock market down. Can’t even wrap my head around that.

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                          • #73
                            Folks, don't adjust your TV sets. You really are seeing the mainstream media and the DNC celebrating a pandemic. These people are such hate-filled, power-hungry monsters that they're willing to watch thousands die and cities crumble if they think it increases the chances of Trump losing in November.



                            Thank God these imbeciles weren't in control of the decision making, or the U.S. would be the world's largest morgue right now.

                            I continue to be amazed that so many people support the left after years of nothing but hoaxes. It really shows you the power indoctrination has on small minds. Some people just don't have the brain power to resist what their TV tells them to think.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Sollozzo View Post
                              Some people are just going to be flat out devastated if this goes away and the stock market recovers.

                              Virtually 99% of the reason for the stock market’s poor performance for the last few weeks is due to a virus which has led to unprecedented cancellations. If it goes away, the market will return to the historic success that we’ve seen throughout the Trump presidency.

                              The best thing you can say about the market is this: its *still* higher than when Trump took office even after a virus which has led to unprecedented cancellations and panic throughout the world. The Trump gains throughout 2017-2019 were so high that they’ve given investors a cushion for this sell off.

                              Must be weird feeling to root for a virus to keep the stock market down. Can’t even wrap my head around that.
                              Lol some people start making 40k a year and get 401k and act like they are part of the 1%

                              If BNG is right and his return in three years is 7% that’s pathetic and somebody should be ashame of been proud of that

                              Also if the economy was so great the buffoon and his people wouldn’t be talking about a bail out package right about now, no “great economy” has to do a third bail out in less than a year.
                              @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by vnzla81 View Post

                                Lol some people start making 40k a year and get 401k and act like they are part of the 1%

                                If BNG is right and his return in three years is 7% that’s pathetic and somebody should be ashame of been proud of that

                                Also if the economy was so great the buffoon and his people wouldn’t be talking about a bail out package right about now, no “great economy” has to do a third bail out in less than a year.
                                The Dow was almost up about 50% from when Trump took over in early 2017 to its peak about a month ago (20,000 to just shy of 30,000). Even after the mass sell-offs due to the panic, it’s *still* up 15% from when Trump took over. In other words, if it weren’t for the roaring first 3 years of the economy, this virus would have caused people to (at this point) be far in the hole compared to where they were 3 years ago. Instead, most people are STILL up even after a mass virus-induced sell off. All thanks to the 2017-2019 success. Now if it all of the sudden gets way worse then that will all change fast, but in that case it would be virus driven instead of being driven by “normal” things.

                                I know you understand all of this - it’s easy elementary math. You’ve just been so stung by all of Trump’s success over the last three years that you’re thrilled there is something that has finally put a dent in it......even if it’s a serious virus.

                                This “bailout” is only because of mass cancellations which have caused an unprecedented break in economic activity.....all due to a historic virus. Celebrating the political implications of that is just creepy.

                                Literally all you have to gloat about is a virus. Pathetic. I guess that’s what happens when all of your other predictions like Mueller fail. Remember when all the know-nothings whose tweets you obsess over had you convinced Mueller would be sending Trump to jail?
                                Last edited by Sollozzo; 03-14-2020, 03:40 PM.

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