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  • vapacersfan
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    • Apr 2006
    • 8614

    #31
    Re: Colts sign Luck

    I honestly wonder if Peyton makes it half a season?

    Will be a interesting year to say the least

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    • OlBlu
      Banned
      • Dec 2011
      • 3288

      #32
      Re: Colts sign Luck

      Originally posted by vapacersfan
      I honestly wonder if Peyton makes it half a season?

      Will be a interesting year to say the least
      Peyton will be just fine. It is Luck you should worry about with that makeshift offensive line. I expect him to lead the league in sacks (he doesn't release as quickly as Peyton did) and the odds of him lasting half a season is open for debate. I don't think he will go the season without a serious injury and I'll bet Peyton does make it through the season. Any takers?

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      • OlBlu
        Banned
        • Dec 2011
        • 3288

        #33
        Re: Colts sign Luck

        Originally posted by vapacersfan
        The Skins have a better team then the Colts? Not sure about that.

        I agree about rebuilding and staying the course, I actually think the Colts will finish at .500 though (I think the Skins and Colts both will)


        Guess time will tell.

        P.S. Did Luck have to turn over his first born, DNA, and future rights to any money made while he is breathing?
        You don't think the Redskins will be better than the Colts. Too bad they don't play so we would find out. The Redskins play in the toughest division in the NFL. I look for them to be somewhere around .500 give or take a game. The Colts have to win one game before you can even thinking about getting there and it isn't clear to me that they will win any games. I have predicted two or less. I wouldn't argue about three but more than that would be a miracle......

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        • Suaveness
          Member
          • Jan 2004
          • 13482

          #34
          Re: Colts sign Luck

          Originally posted by OlBlu
          Peyton will be just fine. It is Luck you should worry about with that makeshift offensive line. I expect him to lead the league in sacks (he doesn't release as quickly as Peyton did) and the odds of him lasting half a season is open for debate. I don't think he will go the season without a serious injury and I'll bet Peyton does make it through the season. Any takers?

          I think everybody on this board would take those odds...
          Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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          • OlBlu
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            • Dec 2011
            • 3288

            #35
            Re: Colts sign Luck

            Originally posted by Suaveness
            I think everybody on this board would take those odds...
            I don't think everybody would but we will see. Some good rookie QBs have been ruined by bad offensive lines letting them take to many hits. The Colts will be playing from behind a lot which means that they will be putting it in the air a whole lost and that is where the opposing defenses will tee off and get sacks on Luck. The defense will be bad because they are switching to a 3-4 with no personel for that move. They are going to try to have two pass rushers play linebacker. I think they will give up 30 plus points on most Sundays.... So make that bet about Luck staying healthy at your own peril.....

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            • Bball
              Jimmy did what Jimmy did
              • Jan 2004
              • 26917

              #36
              Re: Colts sign Luck

              You're assuming the Colts care about wins this season rather than marking it off to a rebuilding year and positioning themselves in the draft. They might not be throwing a ton if they are down just because they don't want to get Luck injured.
              Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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              "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

              -John Wooden

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              • jeffg-body
                Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 4061

                #37
                Re: Colts sign Luck

                I am optimistic to see the o-line this season. We have a lot of youth to that o-line with our 2 rooks from last season and I'd like to see them mesh with what o-linemen that we have left from the last season. I just hope we get our 2 highly touted TE's signed soon before training camp starts. So they can see their roles this season. The thing that bothers me more is that the receiving corps look like they are really thin and if someone goes down it will put us in a bind. I mean Luck can have a brilliant game but if he has no receiver open to throw it to it will be a long year. I also forsee a lot of running the ball this year.

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                • OlBlu
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 3288

                  #38
                  Re: Colts sign Luck

                  Originally posted by Bball
                  You're assuming the Colts care about wins this season rather than marking it off to a rebuilding year and positioning themselves in the draft. They might not be throwing a ton if they are down just because they don't want to get Luck injured.
                  That is a very good point but will they take the wrath of the fans when they play that way? I think you will turn more fans off with that approach but it does make sense......

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                  • Bball
                    Jimmy did what Jimmy did
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 26917

                    #39
                    Re: Colts sign Luck

                    Originally posted by OlBlu
                    That is a very good point but will they take the wrath of the fans when they play that way? I think you will turn more fans off with that approach but it does make sense......
                    I think the Colts have always been more willing to go that type of route and I think they realize it will turn some casual fans off, but they also realize hardcore NFL fans will understand what is up and are looking at other metrics anyway. Then the important thing is, the casual fans you turn off will be right back onboard if the master plan works out in a couple of years or so. Especially if Luck is looking like the real deal and coaching and GM remain on the same page with player and team building.

                    Casual fans don't see much difference in losses.... A loss is a loss... A losing team is a losing team. A rebuilding season is a rebuilding season. Use it to your advantage. Something the Pacers never learned.
                    Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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                    "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

                    -John Wooden

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                    • Basketball Fan
                      Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 17265

                      #40
                      Re: Colts sign Luck

                      For some reason I have trouble logging onto this board but anyways I'm glad this has been resolved

                      I can't believe football season is around the corner!

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                      • Steagles
                        @steagles1
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 3323

                        #41
                        Re: Colts sign Luck

                        Originally posted by vapacersfan
                        I honestly wonder if Peyton makes it half a season?

                        Will be a interesting year to say the least
                        I honestly don't see him lasting past the Steel Curtain opening weekend. I wish he would have just retired.
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                        • Bball
                          Jimmy did what Jimmy did
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 26917

                          #42
                          Re: Colts sign Luck

                          I think it's very possible Manning won't be 100% and may never be 100% again... But Manning doesn't have to be 100% to be effective. The question I have is how close he'll be to 100% and how well will he be able to maintain his health at a consistent level without getting worse?

                          I think he'd play thru some issues if he can at all.
                          Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.

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                          "A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."

                          -John Wooden

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                          • OlBlu
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                            • Dec 2011
                            • 3288

                            #43
                            Re: Colts sign Luck

                            Originally posted by Steagles
                            I honestly don't see him lasting past the Steel Curtain opening weekend. I wish he would have just retired.
                            And I am betting on a 4000 yard season. Luck is the one you should be worried about. He is on a terrible team with a bad offensive line that could get him hurt. He is a rookie and his release is not as quick as Peyton's. He will be doing a lot of scrambling for his life and bad things can happen when a QB does that. Peyton will be back there in the pocket and getting rid of the ball in a heartbeat. That is his method of avoiding the rush...

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                            • OlBlu
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 3288

                              #44
                              Re: Colts sign Luck

                              Originally posted by Bball
                              I think it's very possible Manning won't be 100% and may never be 100% again... But Manning doesn't have to be 100% to be effective. The question I have is how close he'll be to 100% and how well will he be able to maintain his health at a consistent level without getting worse?

                              I think he'd play thru some issues if he can at all.
                              I doubt that he is 100% yet but he will get there. If he gets hurt, I think it will be something other than his neck. That fusion makes that area stronger than it was before the surgery.....

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                              • Noodle
                                Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 931

                                #45
                                Re: Colts sign Luck

                                Originally posted by OlBlu
                                And I am betting on a 4000 yard season. Luck is the one you should be worried about. He is on a terrible team with a bad offensive line that could get him hurt. He is a rookie and his release is not as quick as Peyton's. He will be doing a lot of scrambling for his life and bad things can happen when a QB does that. Peyton will be back there in the pocket and getting rid of the ball in a heartbeat. That is his method of avoiding the rush...
                                I know you meant getting rid of the ball in general or decision making, Andrew Luck has a phenominal release time for a rookie. Better than Peyton's was when he was a rookie. Plus, we are talking a .02 difference between them. Even other QB's with incredible release times have poor throwing motions. Like Romo, who has the fastest release in football. Luck and Manning keep the ball tucked tightly when releasing it, which prevents stripping. I really believe that Luck will shock people with his ability to both get rid of the ball and buy time to throw it. He was one of the best roll out passing QB's I have ever seen in college. I doubt he gets sacked a much as people think he will.

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