The Rules of Pacers Digest

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Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.

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Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.

Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.

Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

Rule #2

If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star

Rule #6

We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.

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Rule #7

Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

Rule #8

We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

Rule #9

Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.

Rule #10

We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.

Rule #11

Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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  • #16
    I dont really expect them to come out of the gate killing it, but I think we will be a dangerous 5 seed that nobody wants to play come playoff time.

    I really like our potential starting unit of Brogdon, Oladipo, Warren, Sabonis and Turner but I'm not sure they will have enough floor time this year to come together by playoff time. Plus Vic needs us to temper our expectations of him this year. He will have missed a calendar year by the time he gets back and will only have around 40 games to get his legs back.

    Honestly, I could see a number of scenarios play out and not really be surprised by any of them. This team has so many unknowns the only thing we can do as fans is let it play out. Too many variables.
    "Don't get caught watchin' the paint dry"


    • #17
      Originally posted by Bball View Post

      As said, there was the foot injury very early... and then in his final season or two 'old' Jordan simply had knee problems. Swelling... fluid draining... icing...
      But I don't recall a knee injury per se'. At least not one that required surgery and rehab.
      Ok. Well, I think my larger point is that he had an injury, and possibly he made a connection between wild drives to the hoop and getting injured, and so he dialed down the craziness with more solid, mature playmaking, not based so much on athleticism. And, of course, it worked out fine.
      "Look, it's up to me to put a team around ... Lance right now." —Kevin Pritchard press conference


      • #18
        Very low, 6/7 seed maybe and a lot of loses.
        @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!


        • #19
          its hard to say considering Vic’s return from injury and schedule around his return. I could see anywhere from 3rd to 7th seed.


          • #20
   has the Pacers ranked at #6 pre-season. I don't think that ranking is off the mark. The Pacers will make the playoffs, but they'll go through some growing pains which will probably carry over into the 2020-2021 season. That said, ending the 2019-2020 season one notch down from where they ended last year isn't bad. I expect to see some drop off due to such high turnover. On paper, the Pacers have gotten better but it's going to take time for this new team to gel.
            There were 320 players who played at least 750 minutes last season. And as of Monday morning, 129 (40 percent) of those 320 are no longer with the team on which they ended the season. Of those 129


            • #21
              Expectations? I don't care much about personal numbers cause there are many factors that could affect them. Personal injuries, injuries to the teammates and etc,

              It's more about team expectations. My expectations is to win the East. In order to achieve Pacers need stay healthy (especially Dipo). And maybe the most important factor: the starting combo of Myles and Domas must work. Myles are improving steadily, polishing his all around game. Domas? Domas is a smart cat. If needs to make adjustments - he will do just that. And add some of his personal flare cause of his basketball understanding. I'm almost certain that Myles and Domas will kick asses and take no names.

              Let's go to the NBA finals, OK?
              12-12-2018, 09:20 PM

              Myles Turner during Vic's postgame interview: "Tell you what the East is in trouble now boy"



              • #22
                6 or 7 seed in the playoffs.
                *removed* Just keep politics and religion completely out of it, please.


                • #23
                  Unless Coach Nate can gett the team really tight early on, I expect anywhere from 39 to 43 wins during the regular season, and another 1st round playoff exit.

                  If they do better than that it will be a welcome surprise.


                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis View Post

                    I here ya on that one, I also questioned if he'd be able to continue that style of play. It doesn't generally bode well to play like that... DRose, John Wall, and now Oladipo all were of the same type of "explosive" small guards who tore their legs up. The only guy who's been able to continue it is Westbrook, who's just a freak of nature.

                    However, I now predict that Oladipo adapts. I expect we'll see a guy who relies less on his athleticism, and starts to play a little closer to the ground, work off the ball, come off screens, and use his leverage and change of direction to create space instead of just constantly exploding past the defense.
                    One of the big positives is that Dipo is a much better shooter than Wall,Rose, or Westbrook. We also saw Rose have a pretty great season at age 30 just this past year.


                    • #25
                      Originally posted by youOk View Post

                      One of the big positives is that Dipo is a much better shooter than Wall,Rose, or Westbrook. We also saw Rose have a pretty great season at age 30 just this past year.
                      Maybe yes, maybe no. Dipo lacked consistency. We all remember very well him struggling even from the free throw line. Maybe, with all his injuries, he had more time time to work on his shot. And when the players get older, the consistency of making a shot improves. Let's hope.
                      12-12-2018, 09:20 PM

                      Myles Turner during Vic's postgame interview: "Tell you what the East is in trouble now boy"



                      • #26
                        Expectations should be ECF, or Pritchard gets fired. We all know this team can make the first round of the playoffs, and lose. Making the second round is a better goal, but I think Pacer fans should have higher expectations. East does not have any super teams standing in our way. It's time to win, or find someone else to run the team.
                        Being unable to close out a game in which you have a comfortable lead in the 4th Q = Pulling a Frank Vogel


                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Pacergeek View Post
                          Expectations should be ECF, or Pritchard gets fired. We all know this team can make the first round of the playoffs, and lose. Making the second round is a better goal, but I think Pacer fans should have higher expectations. East does not have any super teams standing in our way. It's time to win, or find someone else to run the team.
                          While I can appreciate the fire and passion I think you have to be a little more measured than ECF or he's fired. We don't know how long Victor is going to be gone, how good he will be when he returns and how all of the pieces fit together as the season goes along.

                          I think that a lot of people are not going to be super happy with the overall record for the season because I suspect we won't get to the high 40's although we might. However I do believe that talent wise we will get to the second round if everything blends together like we hope. At the gathering I said ECF and I do believe we can, but a lot of that is going to hinge on when Victor returns and how good he is.

                          Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13


                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Pacergeek View Post
                            Expectations should be ECF, or Pritchard gets fired. We all know this team can make the first round of the playoffs, and lose. Making the second round is a better goal, but I think Pacer fans should have higher expectations. East does not have any super teams standing in our way. It's time to win, or find someone else to run the team.
                            I think making it to the 2nd round would be a pretty good/successful season.
                            We have a brand new starting PG, SF & PF this season, not too mention the first 2-3 months there will be a brand new SG in the starting line-up as well. Once this 5-man unit settles in our star player should be due to come back meaning shake ups to both 1st & 2nd units which will take another month or 2 of adjustment, all while Vic gets use to the pace of the game again.

                            Also as for firing Pritchard I completely disagree, he has done a very good job with bringing in some very solid talent, the onus is on Nate McMillan to get the most out of them on the floor.

                            2020-21 is the season for these expectations. The only key player who could potentially be a free agent is Sabonis, if we get that extension done then we are in an outstanding position in terms of chemistry & establishing roles. Vic is 27yrs old & apart from Justin Holiday (30) is the oldest player on the roster which means we have a lot of time to get things right.


                            • #29
                              Cesar's has them at 48.5:



                              • #30
                                zero idea. we got 4 new starters for the time being if we really start Domas. DC/Vic/Bogey/Thad/Myles to Brogdon/Vic/Lamb/Domas/Myles is so insanely different. yes that's the starters I want when Vic's healthy.