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MSM. They could see he was performing phenomenally. The fly like the virus were their best assets.
As for Kamala she did OK. Pence just did better and more important he had a much harder job...not even counting the fact they didn’t let the VP of the United States know that a fly had taken up residence on his head.Last edited by BlueNGold; 10-08-2020, 09:00 AM.Comment
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The monoclonal therapy from lilly is asking for fda approval.
If they can get 1 million doses by the end of the year then a lot of lives could be saved. Keep in mind 1 million doses probably doesn't mean 1 million people will get treated.Comment
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37M watched Pence and Kaine. I would expect this one to get more given the state of the nation.
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I am pretty sure that man was caught under oath admitting that he new his activities were considered illegal. None of the videos he released were raw footage, they were all highly edited with portions of hte conversations edited out if they conflicted with his purpose. . He claimed to be a investigative journalist but the woman he interviewed that used to work for the fetal tissue company was even caught on camera saying things like "oh you want me to be more dramatic?" or "Please don't make me tell that story again" So he was clearly coaching her, something journalists don't do.
But even after all the legal trouble he is in, I guess you can say he accomplished his goal. He wanted to make planned parenthood into a toxic political football, and have them defunded.
Now as for his attack here on Senator Harris. Publicly funded organizations like PP, have friends in high places, and when they come under attack they leverage those friends.
Its amazing to me that there is so much fervor and resources on the right to try and take down abortion. Imagine if they put all that effort and resources into providing access to free adoption programs where pregnant women wouldn't have to pay for any medical costs if they were choosing to give the child up for adoption. Programs that would give them proper financial support and access to prenatal care. An OB costs about $5,000 over the course of your pregnancy. That doesn't include paying for ultra sounds every couple of months. That doesn't include your 2-3 day stay in the hospital. So what I am trying to say is that for many women its simply not even a choice. If you have crappy insurance with an ultra high deductible. You simply can't afford to carry a baby to term.
Imagine if some of these groups actually went to Planned Parenthood and offered them funding if they would promote that type of program as an alternative to an abortion.
People will generally do the right thing when you give pathways to do so. One example is a program is Safe Haven Baby Boxes. They get donations to install a live baby surrender box at Fire stations. A troubled mother gets the opportunity to do the right thing and be anonymous in her decision.Last edited by graphic-er; 10-08-2020, 10:08 AM.You can't get champagne from a garden hose.Comment
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Also, this debate was more important give Biden's age and mental condition. Even the left question if the man gets through 4 years, so she could very easily become president.
But really, it isn't a big factor either way. People will be voting for Biden or Trump. Or against Trump, more likely.Comment
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I don't know how the show started, but they are continuing to prop it up, and that's the effect it's going to have.
E.g. from today.
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"The Russian bounty story was bull ****"
The actual quote from CENTCOM Commander:
Gen. Frank McKenzie, the commander of US Central Command, also told a small group of reporters while traveling to the region that he was not convinced that the Russian bounty program was directly responsible for the deaths of US personnel.
"The intelligence wasn't proved to me. It was proved enough to worry me. It wasn't proved enough that I'd take it to a court of law. That's often true in battlefield intelligence," McKenzie said, according to a transcript provided by the Defense Department.
His comments mark the first time a Pentagon official has answered questions about the US intelligence that assessed there was an effort by a Russian military intelligence unit to pay the Taliban to kill US soldiers.
So the big liberal says no big deal that there is a good chance that Russians paid Taliban to kill US Soldiers and POTUS did not come out against it....what a convenient take...Comment
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But what exactly are you arguing? That because the General said the intelligence proved enough to concern him, the POTUS should publicly act on it? I mean yeah lets start a Cold War with Russia over something like this? Get real...its easy to be a chicken hawk I guess. USA is the largest military in the world and is actively deployed in regions all over the world. We have our hands in everything. It should come as no surprise that other governments with global agendas like Russia and China are actively trying to claw at us.
I don't know how the show started, but they are continuing to prop it up, and that's the effect it's going to have.
E.g. from today.
K-Ball Tweet
"The Russian bounty story was bull ****"
The actual quote from CENTCOM Commander:
Gen. Frank McKenzie, the commander of US Central Command, also told a small group of reporters while traveling to the region that he was not convinced that the Russian bounty program was directly responsible for the deaths of US personnel.
"The intelligence wasn't proved to me. It was proved enough to worry me. It wasn't proved enough that I'd take it to a court of law. That's often true in battlefield intelligence," McKenzie said, according to a transcript provided by the Defense Department.
His comments mark the first time a Pentagon official has answered questions about the US intelligence that assessed there was an effort by a Russian military intelligence unit to pay the Taliban to kill US soldiers.
So the big liberal says no big deal that there is a good chance that Russians paid Taliban to kill US Soldiers and POTUS did not come out against it....what a convenient take...
The fact you call her a liberal is pretty much proof you don't understand the show.You can't get champagne from a garden hose.Comment
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Imagine liking somebody like Pence yikes@WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!
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