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Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

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  • #31
    Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

    @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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    • #32
      Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

      Originally posted by pacer4ever View Post
      me 2. I would rather spend closer to the MLE and get AK47 if we are bringing anyone in he actually brings something that Tyler and David West don't bring defense and shot blocking.

      Or Luc Richard Mbah a Moute he defends really well likley wont be able to get him cheap he is a RFA.

      I also would take Kwame Brown on the cheap than over paying David West.

      I really want to see AK47 on the Pacers he is the best fit IMO of the players available and shouldn't cost to much. He is playing for Moscow signed a 3 year deal with a NBA opt out clause.
      ABSOLUTELY agree on AK47.

      He's hands down one of the most underrated/sometimes forgotten about players in this league. The guy is incredibly good at everything, he's just a bit inconsistent. Still, he's an insanely good passer as well as a ridiculous defender.

      I would LOVE to get AK47 if possible.
      Stop quoting people I have on ignore!

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      • #33
        Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

        Apparently some players thought West may get signed by Indiana:

        JaredDudley619 Jared Dudley
        RT @WojYahooNBA: Once lockout ends, Hornets still have a strong chance to re-sign West, Indiana is serious threat ( I told u @dahntay1)
        4 hours ago


        Rather have Landry though.
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        • #34
          Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

          Yeah I like Andrei Kirilenko.

          He's good on both sides of the court. He's best suited playing PF anyway.

          Please not David West! Let's use this money wisely.
          In 49 states it's just basketball, but this is Indiana!

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          • #35
            Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

            I dont quite understand the turn off of David West. Yes he will be 31, and yes he is comming off ACL surgery, but its not microfracture surgery and he doesnt have a pattern of missing a lot of games

            He has had extra time to heal his body and go through a rigorous rehab program
            He has a great mid range game and com pliments Hibbert better than Nene
            He can pop out and gave Roy more space
            He is familiar and did well with DC in New Orleans
            Decent defender and rebounder
            With the new CBA its highly doubtfull he will command as much as before

            JMHO
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            • #36
              Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

              Originally posted by 90'sNBARocked View Post
              He has had extra time to heal his body and go through a rigorous rehab program
              Decent defender and rebounder
              Injury, Age, Defense, Rebounding, none of those four are really in his favor. That's why I'd be wary, though not totally against bringing him in.
              "man, PG has been really good."

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              • #37
                Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

                Originally posted by Sandman21 View Post
                Rather have Landry though.
                Why Landry? we already have a similar version named Hansbrough.
                Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                • #38
                  Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

                  I don't understand preferring AK 47 over David West

                  People act as if West is old and AK is young there is only 4 months difference in there ages . Healthwise Kirilenko has missed far more games in his career than West . Rebounding wise over the last 3 seasons West 8 rpg- AK 5 rpg.

                  Scoring West 19.7 ppg Kirilenko 11.8 ppg.

                  Healthwise last 3 years West avg 76 games played a season Kirilenko 63.

                  Kirilenko's last seaon averaging more than 12 points a game and 5 rebounds a game was 5 seasons ago 2005-06 at which time he signed a huge contract and became an average player.

                  West since becoming a regular player has averaged at least 18.3 points and 7.5 rebounds every season the last 5 years. He is coming off a major injury but has been far more productive over the last 5 years and healthier than Kirilenko.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

                    AK47 is what everyone hopes Josh McRoberts becomes. True story.

                    I'd bet putting all my efforts toward Nene. In this new East we need size. Twin Towers of Nene and Hibbert downlow will give us that size and we can slide Nene over to Center and have Tyler be the back up PF.

                    Not to mention resign Foster to a his final deal at the minimum to play back up center, we would be incredibly deep up front.
                    You can't get champagne from a garden hose.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

                      Originally posted by diamonddave00 View Post
                      I don't understand preferring AK 47 over David West

                      People act as if West is old and AK is young there is only 4 months difference in there ages . Healthwise Kirilenko has missed far more games in his career than West . Rebounding wise over the last 3 seasons West 8 rpg- AK 5 rpg.

                      Scoring West 19.7 ppg Kirilenko 11.8 ppg.

                      Healthwise last 3 years West avg 76 games played a season Kirilenko 63.

                      Kirilenko's last seaon averaging more than 12 points a game and 5 rebounds a game was 5 seasons ago 2005-06 at which time he signed a huge contract and became an average player.

                      West since becoming a regular player has averaged at least 18.3 points and 7.5 rebounds every season the last 5 years. He is coming off a major injury but has been far more productive over the last 5 years and healthier than Kirilenko.
                      To bolster your argument against AK 47, below are the # of games he has played in the last 5 seasons:

                      2005-2006 - 69 games
                      2006-2007 - 70 games
                      2007-2008 - 72 games
                      2008-2009 - 67 games
                      2009-2010 - 58 games
                      2010-2011 - 64 games

                      Over the last 6 seasons, he's missed between 12 to 24 games while averaging 66 games per season over the last 6 seasons. That means that he has ( on average ) missed 1 out of every 5 games over the last 6 seasons.

                      As a backup SF/PF...sure, I'd have no problem with AK47....but as a Starting PF...pass.
                      Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

                        Originally posted by Psyren View Post
                        ABSOLUTELY agree on AK47.

                        He's hands down one of the most underrated/sometimes forgotten about players in this league. The guy is incredibly good at everything, he's just a bit inconsistent. Still, he's an insanely good passer as well as a ridiculous defender.

                        I would LOVE to get AK47 if possible.
                        Ya he has always been one of my favorite players. He literally does everything on both sides of the court. Good passer good defender can shoot if open and is very selfless player and does the dirty work him and Shawn Marion 2 very underrated players in the NBA I have always been a fan.


                        And the main differences Dave is money but more importantly style of play. I prefer what AK47 brings to the table over David West age isnt a huge factor to me with David West I just don't like that he is basically a rich mans Tyler Hans but will want a huge pay check. If we are spending 10+m on a player per year I want the player to be in his prime and be a game changer on both sides of the ball. In all honesty David West IMO wouldn't improve the team as much as AK47 would. AK brings defense which is something our PF's don't do and he can score and pass which Tyler doesn't do both neither does Josh. Josh can pass but not score Tyler can score but not pass. He would be a good fit if we can get him on a good deal. Ideally I would like to bring in a Serge Ibaka type player but I don't see anyone out there that could be brought in this off season.

                        He would be a perfect fit playing 15-20mpg at the PF and another 10 at SF. If he would want over MLE money I probably would pass though.
                        Last edited by pacer4ever; 10-20-2011, 07:36 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

                          I hope we set our sights much higher then West.
                          First we should evaluate what the new cba does for us and what teams have to reduce payroll. If the best player isn't available through a one sided trade we should go after Nene, followed by Gasol, followed by waiting until the trade deadline or the following season to spend our cap space.
                          Larry Bird qouted March 25th. 2015:

                          Bird: I wanted to keep our group together because in the summer, if David and Roy opt out, we're back to zero, really. We don't have that much, so you leave your options open. If we did make a trade, I didn't want to take on a lot of contracts -- because that's what usually happens. Plus, I liked my guys. They're playing well. If we keep the core together and Paul comes back healthy, we'll be right back to where we were.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

                            Originally posted by Ozwalt72 View Post
                            Injury, Age, Defense, Rebounding, none of those four are really in his favor. That's why I'd be wary, though not totally against bringing him in.
                            Fair point, those are not his strong points

                            but Jay Z said "30 is the new 20"

                            at 31 I think he could give at least 4-5 more productive years. Shoot, Kurt Thomas is still productive, and he started his NBA career backing up Jesus at the 4 spot

                            Sittin on top of the world!

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                            • #44
                              Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

                              I'd welcome AK47.

                              He and Tyler would share minutes and that'd be a good rotation.

                              AK and Roy can play off each other.

                              I guess it's safe to say Josh will not be returning if it's going to be the PF position we look to improve.

                              Unfortunately, market size is keeping us from getting DWill in this biased league.
                              Last edited by Scot Pollard; 10-20-2011, 07:51 PM.
                              In 49 states it's just basketball, but this is Indiana!

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                              • #45
                                Re: Woj: Indiana 'serious threat' to sign D. West

                                Originally posted by graphic-er View Post
                                AK47 is what everyone hopes Josh McRoberts becomes. True story.

                                I'd bet putting all my efforts toward Nene. In this new East we need size. Twin Towers of Nene and Hibbert downlow will give us that size and we can slide Nene over to Center and have Tyler be the back up PF.

                                Not to mention resign Foster to a his final deal at the minimum to play back up center, we would be incredibly deep up front.
                                Disagree MAC daddy

                                Nene has little to no offensive game, will crowd the paint and is not a good match with Roy. We need a PF who can (God help me) space the floor

                                West mid range game is money
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