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  • Granville
    Member
    • Jul 2004
    • 413

    #61
    Originally posted by Dece
    Not shocking that a guy who isn't all that good and wants a large payday isn't worth very much. Should have traded him before, when he wasn't a rental unless you wanted to be holding his overpaid bag.
    Perhaps. I don’t have a strong feeling on what they would end up getting, but I’m also not putting any stock to what any potential buyer is saying the price tag should be. That’s the point I’m trying to make.

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    • 712Jefferson
      Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 4996

      #62
      Damage control in full effect:



      @AlexGoldenNBA
      ?
      2h
      Chad Buchanan on the Buddy Hield rumors: “We have no intention to move Buddy, but it’s also our job to listen to opportunities, if it helps improve our team.”

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      • MillerTime
        FREE LANCE
        • May 2008
        • 7566

        #63
        Originally posted by 712Jefferson
        Damage control in full effect:



        @AlexGoldenNBA
        ?
        2h
        Chad Buchanan on the Buddy Hield rumors: “We have no intention to move Buddy, but it’s also our job to listen to opportunities, if it helps improve our team.”
        I wouldn’t be shocked if Buddy is still on the team come October 24.
        "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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        • Downtown Bang!
          Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 1945

          #64
          OG trade talks where the P's supposedly offered 4 1st's including this summers 7th pick. Buddy so devalued he is now only worth a couple 2nds. Neither makes much sense and just because some "insider" posts it on a social media outlet does not make it true. Unless of course one wants to go on another tired rant about how inept the Pacers org is.....
          Last edited by Downtown Bang!; 09-27-2023, 07:03 AM.

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          • docpaul
            Rebirth.
            • Jul 2006
            • 4493

            #65
            If all the market offers for Hield is 2nds? I’ll take contract year Buddy any day. If he proves to be irreplaceable? We can easily sign him.

            The hard facts are clear: Buddy is a lights out shooter, perhaps generationally so, but doesn’t have plus skills defensively in any way whatsoever.

            That makes him an outstanding 6th man option.

            Pacers offered him 6th man money, and he was insulted when it wasn’t starter level $. This is a process for Hield I suspect and if I was him I’d probably have a hard time accepting a supporting role too given how he came into league and how expectations grew. But the only way he’ll get a ring is to play in a role that hides his weaknesses and accentuates his strengths. Full stop.

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            • Ozys Nepimpis
              Member
              • Dec 2019
              • 2237

              #66

              https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...too-much-sense
              James Harden Gets to the Clippers


              1 OF 3



              James Harden and Kawhi LeonardDavid Dow/NBAE via Getty Images
              Philadelphia 76ers Receive: Buddy Hield, Daniel Theis, Terance Mann, Norman Powell and Marcus Morris Sr. and a 2030 first-round pick from Los Angeles

              Philadelphia 76ers Lose: James Harden, Tobias Harris and a 2029 first-round pick

              The Sixers' goal throughout this saga has been to remain a title contender after moving Harden. While this deal doesn't send a superstar to Philly, the front office might just have to accept that Harden isn't one anymore, either.

              This trade is a net neutral in terms of draft capital, and it surrounds the Joel Embiid-Tyrese Maxey two-man game with more shooting. Trying to defend those two when Buddy Hield (one of the best three-point shooters of all time) and Norman Powell (40.6 percent from three over the last five years) are on the outside would be a nightmare.

              Given the potential ascension of Maxey, this doesn't even necessarily take Philadelphia out of the two-star mold. It just surrounds those two stars with a better fitting supporting cast.

              Los Angeles Clippers Receive: James Harden and Jordan Nwora

              Los Angeles Clippers Lose: Terance Mann, Norman Powell, Marcus Morris Sr., a 2024 second-round pick (via Toronto) and a 2030 first-round pick

              There is some significant risk here. Harden is 34 years old and has quit on each of his last three teams. So, despite the Clippers being Harden's preferred destination, it's not surprising that they haven't acquired him yet.

              Still, ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski said, "The Clippers are the most motivated team to give up at least a first-round pick in this." If no one else goes that far, a pick, Terance Mann and enough salary to make the deal work under the collective bargaining agreement might get this done.

              L.A.'s depth takes a hit here, but Harden is still one of the best playmakers in the NBA. He'd make scoring easier for Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.

              Indiana Pacers Receive: Tobias Harris, a 2024 second-round pick (via Toronto) and a 2029 first-round pick from Philadelphia

              Indiana Pacers Lose: Buddy Hield, Jordan Nwora and Daniel Theis

              After extension talks stalled, the Pacers started looking into potential trades for Buddy Hield a few weeks ago, according to Shams Charania of The Athletic and Stadium. This deal sends him to a contender without forfeiting Indiana's ability to be competitive right now.

              Hield is the only mainstay from last season's rotation on the outgoing side, as Jordan Nwora and Daniel Theis only played a combined 700 minutes for the Pacers in 2022-23. Tobias Harris can provide some of the shooting they'd lose from moving Hield while also being a bigger defender.

              Shifting depth to the frontcourt and picking up a few draft assets in the process is a win, especially if Hield could be on his way out of Indiana after this season anyway.

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              • rimrattler
                Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 3119

                #67
                Originally posted by Ozys Nepimpis
                https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...too-much-sense
                James Harden Gets to the Clippers


                1 OF 3



                James Harden and Kawhi LeonardDavid Dow/NBAE via Getty Images
                Philadelphia 76ers Receive: Buddy Hield, Daniel Theis, Terance Mann, Norman Powell and Marcus Morris Sr. and a 2030 first-round pick from Los Angeles

                Philadelphia 76ers Lose: James Harden, Tobias Harris and a 2029 first-round pick

                The Sixers' goal throughout this saga has been to remain a title contender after moving Harden. While this deal doesn't send a superstar to Philly, the front office might just have to accept that Harden isn't one anymore, either.

                This trade is a net neutral in terms of draft capital, and it surrounds the Joel Embiid-Tyrese Maxey two-man game with more shooting. Trying to defend those two when Buddy Hield (one of the best three-point shooters of all time) and Norman Powell (40.6 percent from three over the last five years) are on the outside would be a nightmare.

                Given the potential ascension of Maxey, this doesn't even necessarily take Philadelphia out of the two-star mold. It just surrounds those two stars with a better fitting supporting cast.

                Los Angeles Clippers Receive: James Harden and Jordan Nwora

                Los Angeles Clippers Lose: Terance Mann, Norman Powell, Marcus Morris Sr., a 2024 second-round pick (via Toronto) and a 2030 first-round pick

                There is some significant risk here. Harden is 34 years old and has quit on each of his last three teams. So, despite the Clippers being Harden's preferred destination, it's not surprising that they haven't acquired him yet.

                Still, ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski said, "The Clippers are the most motivated team to give up at least a first-round pick in this." If no one else goes that far, a pick, Terance Mann and enough salary to make the deal work under the collective bargaining agreement might get this done.

                L.A.'s depth takes a hit here, but Harden is still one of the best playmakers in the NBA. He'd make scoring easier for Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.

                Indiana Pacers Receive: Tobias Harris, a 2024 second-round pick (via Toronto) and a 2029 first-round pick from Philadelphia

                Indiana Pacers Lose: Buddy Hield, Jordan Nwora and Daniel Theis

                After extension talks stalled, the Pacers started looking into potential trades for Buddy Hield a few weeks ago, according to Shams Charania of The Athletic and Stadium. This deal sends him to a contender without forfeiting Indiana's ability to be competitive right now.

                Hield is the only mainstay from last season's rotation on the outgoing side, as Jordan Nwora and Daniel Theis only played a combined 700 minutes for the Pacers in 2022-23. Tobias Harris can provide some of the shooting they'd lose from moving Hield while also being a bigger defender.

                Shifting depth to the frontcourt and picking up a few draft assets in the process is a win, especially if Hield could be on his way out of Indiana after this season anyway.
                I can't see the Pacers doing this unless they plan on going after OG next year. Which is possible. It would free up a little playing time for younger players.

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                • MyFavMartin
                  This team is Fun!
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 5442

                  #68
                  Originally posted by rimrattler

                  I can't see the Pacers doing this unless they plan on going after OG next year. Which is possible. It would free up a little playing time for younger players.
                  I like Harris but his contact is expiring so I’d want him to have agreed to an extension, which I’m not sure is permissible. Seems light for the Sixers. Wouldn’t they want TJ back?

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