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  • jrwannabe
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 5175

    #151
    Originally posted by dal9

    I don't know who Jones is (Derrick Jones Jr.?) but that's a tragic lineup in terms of shooting the 3...just no way that flies in today's nba.
    Kai Jones

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    • Cubs231721
      Member
      • Aug 2006
      • 4208

      #152
      V, I'm curious. I know you said a team with Simmons and Sabonis would be running as much as possible. When it gets to the 4th quarter of a playoff game where the other team doesn't let you run, what does the halfcourt set look like? Who has the ball, and where are Simmons and Sabonis positioned?

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      • vnzla81
        Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 69646

        #153
        He has the ability to do it, get Ben Simmons and then get Mike "the god" D'Antoni




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        • 712Jefferson
          Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 5885

          #154
          Philly is going to get way more for Simmons than I think many here anticipate.

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          • vnzla81
            Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 69646

            #155
            Originally posted by Cubs231721
            V, I'm curious. I know you said a team with Simmons and Sabonis would be running as much as possible. When it gets to the 4th quarter of a playoff game where the other team doesn't let you run, what does the halfcourt set look like? Who has the ball, and where are Simmons and Sabonis positioned?
            Half court with two minutes to go I see either one of them screening for LeVert/Warren or Brogdon, a good coach can find multiple sets to make everybody work like is supposed to.


            LeVert/Ben pick and roll all day until they can stop it, Sabo or Ben post ups until they can stop them.
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            • Cubs231721
              Member
              • Aug 2006
              • 4208

              #156
              Originally posted by vnzla81

              Half court with two minutes to go I see either one of them screening for LeVert/Warren or Brogdon, a good coach can find multiple sets to make everybody work like is supposed to.


              LeVert/Ben pick and roll all day until they can stop it, Sabo or Ben post ups until they can stop them.
              So one is the screener, and I assume the other one is in the dunkers spot?

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              • vnzla81
                Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 69646

                #157
                Originally posted by Cubs231721

                So one is the screener, and I assume the other one is in the dunkers spot?
                Yep pretty much, similar to what they do in Atlanta with Capela, LeVert/Ben pick and roll at the top and let him go down hill like always, nobody is stopping that.



                Thing is Sabo/Ben are above average passers it wouldn't take that much for either one them to find the other under the basket for easy layups all day.
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                • Guest

                  #158
                  Originally posted by vnzla81
                  And I'm sorry to Turner fans but your dream of moving Sabonis because you can't deal with the thought of moving your mancrush Softner by himself is not happening.



                  Also the myth of Turner been some type of reliable shooter is just that a myth, him and Pork are two of the worse pretenders to be shooters in the league.


                  Hey something we agree on.

                  It annoys me when people defend Turner shooting 33% from downtown "oh is gud for a big rah rah floor spacer!" No it's not. I don't care if you're a center or a guard, if you shot 33% from range, youre not spacing the floor and defenders will leave you alone all day bc each shot is dragging down your team costing them points. Myles is a below average shooter. He wasn't so much in his first couple years, but the league has evolved and his shooting is now officially substandard.

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                  • vnzla81
                    Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 69646

                    #159
                    The guy is a beast.

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                    • Taterhead
                      Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 2302

                      #160
                      Originally posted by OneMoreYear

                      Perhaps, but I don't think all that adds up to a "superstar", not a guy who'll ever excel in the playoffs, and certainly not someone worth paying superstar money for.

                      And I'm sure he's not a finished product, but at this point, his weaknesses are so pronounced that he's got about as good a chance of becoming a skilled shooter as Domas does of having an arm growth spurt. It's just not happening. He's had YEARS where I can guarantee he's had his shot analyzed and worked on with the help of experts we don't even know about. There are problems no amount of reworking is going to correct, and it goes beyond physical as there's clearly a mental aversion at this point to even trying.

                      Given their respective talents and limitations I'd rather keep a TJ Mac then pay Simmons a kings ransom.

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                      Bruh, Jason Kidd developed a jumper in his late 30s.

                      Shooting is the single exception to that rule.

                      I would never expect him to hit 100+ in a season but if you surround him with shooters and put the ball in his hands, he absolutely can excel.

                      Ben Simmons problems are mental/maturity. They arent a lack of skill or a physical limitations like your example with Sabonis. Mental obstacles arent real, only perceived. The right coach could unlock him. Hes still like 5 years from his physical peak. The mental side is physical. Its fluid.

                      Who else are we gonna get that fits the description of what Simmons isnt? There arent many and none of them are coming here.

                      We need a big move towards developing an identity, and I would consider this to fit that criteria.
                      "Don't get caught watchin' the paint dry"

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                      • dal9
                        Can see thru wooden doors
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 17966

                        #161
                        Originally posted by jrwannabe

                        Kai Jones
                        Don't remember watching him play, but 38% in college on barely more than 1 3P Attempts per game doesn't seem very promising for spreading the floor...

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                        • PacerDude
                          It's just my opinion.
                          • May 2009
                          • 10049

                          #162
                          If anyone wants to believe Screamin' A. Smith (personally - I can't stand the guy - his schtick wore off years ago, but I digress . . . . ) -

                          Stephen A. Smith: Sixers star guard Ben Simmons is constantly babied (yahoo.com)

                          I just received a text from somebody very, very close to the situation in Philadelphia, about Ben Simmons. This is a quote, this is not me, this is them. Quote, he doesn’t work, he doesn’t listen, and everyone around him is family, and he’s constantly babied.
                          So there's that . . . .

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                          • jrwannabe
                            Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 5175

                            #163
                            Originally posted by dal9

                            Don't remember watching him play, but 38% in college on barely more than 1 3P Attempts per game doesn't seem very promising for spreading the floor...
                            He's more of a defender and rebounder. So with the starting line-up I put, you have Simmons, Jones and Warren as good defenders with LeVert, Warren and Sabo as scorers. That line-up is sorely missing 3-pointers. But then you have 4 coming in on the second unit that are capable of shooting the 3 ball. Could possibly have 5 if TJM doesn't return and we run Sumner at point. Now we could swap Brissett in the starting line-up and have Jones coming off the bench to mix things up a bit.

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                              #164
                              Originally posted by Taterhead

                              Bruh, Jason Kidd developed a jumper in his late 30s.

                              Shooting is the single exception to that rule.

                              I would never expect him to hit 100+ in a season but if you surround him with shooters and put the ball in his hands, he absolutely can excel.

                              Ben Simmons problems are mental/maturity. They arent a lack of skill or a physical limitations like your example with Sabonis. Mental obstacles arent real, only perceived. The right coach could unlock him. Hes still like 5 years from his physical peak. The mental side is physical. Its fluid.

                              Who else are we gonna get that fits the description of what Simmons isnt? There arent many and none of them are coming here.

                              We need a big move towards developing an identity, and I would consider this to fit that criteria.
                              Gawddamit dude wtf is wrong with you.

                              I never compared Sabonis limitations to Simmons limitations.

                              I said Simmons developing a jump shot is as likely as Sabonis' arms suddenly having a growth spurt.

                              Read the **** post before you comment. I'm putting you on ignore the next time you quote, HEY IF YOU READ, you might pick up on the fact that I spent the entire list taking about how if they haven't fixed his mechanical issues by now it's not a mechanics things it's a head thing (you know, the one where I say Simmons issues are mental... Which you just responded to my saying naw man Simmons issues are mental) to say something idiotic BRUH.

                              The next person who had reads my post in order to quote me and say no that's wrong and then reply with THE SAME THING I ACTUALLY SAID gets ignored.
                              Last edited by Guest; 06-22-2021, 03:15 PM.

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                              • 712Jefferson
                                Member
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 5885

                                #165
                                Originally posted by PacerDude
                                If anyone wants to believe Screamin' A. Smith (personally - I can't stand the guy - his schtick wore off years ago, but I digress . . . . ) -

                                Stephen A. Smith: Sixers star guard Ben Simmons is constantly babied (yahoo.com)



                                So there's that . . . .
                                Don't care for that. He's generally pretty plugged in.

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