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  • kent beckley
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    The trade that I would pursue is Domas and Lamb to Portland, CJ McC to Philly, and Ben and a pick to Indy.

    You would have Myles and Goga playing the 48 minutes at center. Then a huge group of wings and guards to fill out the rotation.

    Ben, Malcom, Caris, and TJ Warren probably start. You would be able to switch everything, Ben probably starts on the best offensive player, he also probably starts most possessions with the ball in his hands, although Malcom and Caris are very capable ball handlers. Your bench ends up being the Holidays, probably Sumner, maybe the lottery pick could contribute, and Oshae gives you your big wing off the bench.

    Overall, the team wouldn’t fit perfectly, but it fits better than what we currently have. Rebounding would have to be a team focus, probably Myles boxing out and the wings sweeping down. I think the team would have a higher ceiling than the current incantation.

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  • croz24
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    Originally posted by kent beckley View Post

    Myles shooting 33% from 3 is the same as a post player shooting 50%. Each situation gives you 1.00 points per possession.
    Sorry but this idea simply is not true at all when considering all variables in a basketball game. I am tired of the analytics nonsense. It's too easy for people to look at a singular number like WAR or OPS in baseball or PER or PPP in basketball and form opinions, rather than think critically. A true high usage low post scorer, actually playing out of the low post who is hitting 50+% of their attempts, positively affects your offense as a whole far more than a player hitting 30-40% of their 3s. Highly efficient low post scorers force the defense to collapse or assist, creating more open looks on the perimeter or mid-range... if no help arrives, you are looking either at an easy 2, an and 1, or foul trouble, which is often lost on the analytics lovers who fail to consider the ramifications of getting the oppositions big men (especially solid defensive ones) in foul trouble and how that opens up the entire offense for easier baskets... and regardless of help vs no help, an efficient low post player like Domas who understands how to pass creates motion offensively making your offense incredibly difficult to stop on a CONSISTENT game to game basis. Whereas a big camped out at the 3 point like jacking up 3s at an inconsistent rate creates a live and die by the 3 mentality whereby you have no idea what you'll get game to game stagnating the offense entirely, and resulting in fewer 2nd chance opportunities with your big so far from the basket.

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  • naptownmenace
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    Originally posted by vnzla81 View Post
    The team that should be around Ben when he comes to Pacers


    Brogdon, LeVert, Holiday, Ben, Sabo, call me crazy but that team is top 4 in the east.
    The Pacers can go 4th in the East without any changes as long as they have one season where no one tears some part of their body. That’s not a good reason to make this trade for Tragic Johnson.

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  • owl
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    Originally posted by kent beckley View Post

    Myles shooting 33% from 3 is the same as a post player shooting 50%. Each situation gives you 1.00 points per possession.

    He also led the league in contested shots at the rim with 10.3 per game, and the opponent only shot 48.7%.

    so, he is scoring more per possession from 3, than opponents are scoring at the rim against him. What is the problem here?
    It really is not a problem. But he is not Hakeem Olajuwan so he must go.

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  • kent beckley
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    Originally posted by OneMoreYear View Post

    Hey something we agree on.

    It annoys me when people defend Turner shooting 33% from downtown "oh is gud for a big rah rah floor spacer!" No it's not. I don't care if you're a center or a guard, if you shot 33% from range, youre not spacing the floor and defenders will leave you alone all day bc each shot is dragging down your team costing them points. Myles is a below average shooter. He wasn't so much in his first couple years, but the league has evolved and his shooting is now officially substandard.
    Myles shooting 33% from 3 is the same as a post player shooting 50%. Each situation gives you 1.00 points per possession.

    He also led the league in contested shots at the rim with 10.3 per game, and the opponent only shot 48.7%.

    so, he is scoring more per possession from 3, than opponents are scoring at the rim against him. What is the problem here?

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  • Peck
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    Originally posted by imawhat View Post

    Those are the two guys we’d need to keep if we got Simmons. We can’t get rid of our best shooters and roll out a lineup of clankers. Teams will pack the paint and dare us to shoot.

    If we want him without losing major skills it’d have to be a ball-dominant player that isn’t a great shooter. LeVert’s utility is diminished unless we move him to 6th man because Simmons is useless on offense without the ball.

    Or it’s got to be Sabonis. I don’t know if I’d do Sabonis.
    Nah, we have got to change our mindset on the team and it seems to me that since Brogdan has been here he is leading the mindset. BTW, my idea of moving them goes much further than just moving them. Like I said you then have to trade either Turner or Sabonis for another shooter and you can always trade off of some players to make room to re-signe McDermott if you feel you must.

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  • Peck
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    Originally posted by NuffSaid View Post

    A couple of things here.

    1. I get that sometimes players need a new environment - a fresh start - to reignite that flame within, but if the only problem Ben Simmons has is his attitude, why would we want him here? Haven't we gone down this road before, i.e., "falling in love with talent"? That's the first red flag for me to say no deal.

    2. Give up Brogdon and TJ Warren...TJ WARREN...before you know what you have in him once fully healed? We've been down this road at least 3X: Jermaine Oneal, Danny Granger and Paul George (although that last one wanted out; so, we can substitute Mike Dunleavy for PG here and it comes out the same) - giving up players who were injured before seeing exactly what we have in them post-rehab (OR putting them back in the lineup before they're 100% physically ready to play)?

    If the Pacers must make a trade, it should not include TJ Warren. Of course, that part in bold is all that really needs to be said.
    You have a much higher opinion of Warren than I do. I think he is a nice player but nothing special. We are not talking Durrant or even Jimmy Butler here. Also as to him being healthy? That seems to be a theme with him doesn't it?

    Yes i realize I think much higher of Simmons than you do so you can always counter back with that.

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  • NuffSaid
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    Originally posted by Peck View Post
    In listeing to the Lowe Podcast today (sorry if this has already been covered) but if we had an owner who would allow it, he won't, I think that the Pacers actually for once in our lives could be one of the leading candidates to get Simmons.

    In his podcast it was brought up that Embiid is 27 and does not want to go through a rebuilding process and that typically for major stars like this teams want a bounty of draft picks and young talent so that they can quickly rebuild. Philly is not going to be like that, they are going to want to win now. So in most cases in a win now mode teams are going to want a major star back, Simmons is a distressed asset and therefor he is not going to get dollar for dollar trade value so to speak with other teams.

    The Pacers could actually put together a package that provided the 76ers with players that could help Embiid right now and maybe even a potential draft pick going forward. I'd hold that pick if at all possible but you may have to include it.

    A straight swap of Simmons for T.J. Warren and Malcolm Brogdan works. Normally they would just laugh us out of the building if we offered that but his star has really fallen so that might not be a bad return for them and in all honesty those two would probably work really well with Embiid.

    This still allows you to move either Turner or Sabonis for a wing that can score.

    Really you could remake your team over night. I think Simmons is going to look better at his next stop than what he has in the last series and honestly Indiana and our low criticism press would be the perfect place for him after the Philly market. He could come here out of the spotlight and the demands that come with being the # 1 pick and he could rejuvinate his career here.

    It's never going to happen but this would be a nice way to get a top line talent and not have to give up future drafting assets.
    A couple of things here.

    1. I get that sometimes players need a new environment - a fresh start - to reignite that flame within, but if the only problem Ben Simmons has is his attitude, why would we want him here? Haven't we gone down this road before, i.e., "falling in love with talent"? That's the first red flag for me to say no deal.

    2. Give up Brogdon and TJ Warren...TJ WARREN...before you know what you have in him once fully healed? We've been down this road at least 3X: Jermaine Oneal, Danny Granger and Paul George (although that last one wanted out; so, we can substitute Mike Dunleavy for PG here and it comes out the same) - giving up players who were injured before seeing exactly what we have in them post-rehab (OR putting them back in the lineup before they're 100% physically ready to play)?

    If the Pacers must make a trade, it should not include TJ Warren. Of course, that part in bold is all that really needs to be said.

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  • Wage
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    If you can get Ben Simmons for Brogdon and Warren without committing some sort of felony you do it immediately and worry about fit or whatever else later.

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  • imawhat
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    Originally posted by Peck View Post
    In listeing to the Lowe Podcast today (sorry if this has already been covered) but if we had an owner who would allow it, he won't, I think that the Pacers actually for once in our lives could be one of the leading candidates to get Simmons.

    In his podcast it was brought up that Embiid is 27 and does not want to go through a rebuilding process and that typically for major stars like this teams want a bounty of draft picks and young talent so that they can quickly rebuild. Philly is not going to be like that, they are going to want to win now. So in most cases in a win now mode teams are going to want a major star back, Simmons is a distressed asset and therefor he is not going to get dollar for dollar trade value so to speak with other teams.

    The Pacers could actually put together a package that provided the 76ers with players that could help Embiid right now and maybe even a potential draft pick going forward. I'd hold that pick if at all possible but you may have to include it.

    A straight swap of Simmons for T.J. Warren and Malcolm Brogdan works. Normally they would just laugh us out of the building if we offered that but his star has really fallen so that might not be a bad return for them and in all honesty those two would probably work really well with Embiid.

    This still allows you to move either Turner or Sabonis for a wing that can score.

    Really you could remake your team over night. I think Simmons is going to look better at his next stop than what he has in the last series and honestly Indiana and our low criticism press would be the perfect place for him after the Philly market. He could come here out of the spotlight and the demands that come with being the # 1 pick and he could rejuvinate his career here.

    It's never going to happen but this would be a nice way to get a top line talent and not have to give up future drafting assets.
    Those are the two guys we’d need to keep if we got Simmons. We can’t get rid of our best shooters and roll out a lineup of clankers. Teams will pack the paint and dare us to shoot.

    If we want him without losing major skills it’d have to be a ball-dominant player that isn’t a great shooter. LeVert’s utility is diminished unless we move him to 6th man because Simmons is useless on offense without the ball.

    Or it’s got to be Sabonis. I don’t know if I’d do Sabonis.

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  • imawhat
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    Originally posted by SaintLouisan View Post

    Looking at his college stats on BBref though, he did shoot 40% from three on 100 attempts in his senior year (and 38% on 324 attempts in his college career)...so there was something there to work with. Just never seen anything like that from Simmons.

    Can't argue with the second sentence. He seems like the kinda guy who's just happy being a multimillionaire dating supermodels. Which I suppose is not exactly a crazy way to think, but it's not what you should want on your basketball team.
    That’s wild that he hit 40% in college. I know it’s a shorter line but still. It reminds me of Jeff Foster, who I could see drilling jumper after jumper in the BLF practice gym.

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  • croz24
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    ^^^ Don't care how we get rid of Brogdon, but for me, he and/or Justin are the absolute must go on the Pacers. If it helps the Pacers land Simmons, even better. Obviously, this is the Pacers so Brogdon is here to stay and only minor "deals" will take place... if any.

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  • owl
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    Originally posted by Peck View Post
    In listeing to the Lowe Podcast today (sorry if this has already been covered) but if we had an owner who would allow it, he won't, I think that the Pacers actually for once in our lives could be one of the leading candidates to get Simmons.

    In his podcast it was brought up that Embiid is 27 and does not want to go through a rebuilding process and that typically for major stars like this teams want a bounty of draft picks and young talent so that they can quickly rebuild. Philly is not going to be like that, they are going to want to win now. So in most cases in a win now mode teams are going to want a major star back, Simmons is a distressed asset and therefor he is not going to get dollar for dollar trade value so to speak with other teams.

    The Pacers could actually put together a package that provided the 76ers with players that could help Embiid right now and maybe even a potential draft pick going forward. I'd hold that pick if at all possible but you may have to include it.

    A straight swap of Simmons for T.J. Warren and Malcolm Brogdan works. Normally they would just laugh us out of the building if we offered that but his star has really fallen so that might not be a bad return for them and in all honesty those two would probably work really well with Embiid.

    This still allows you to move either Turner or Sabonis for a wing that can score.

    Really you could remake your team over night. I think Simmons is going to look better at his next stop than what he has in the last series and honestly Indiana and our low criticism press would be the perfect place for him after the Philly market. He could come here out of the spotlight and the demands that come with being the # 1 pick and he could rejuvinate his career here.

    It's never going to happen but this would be a nice way to get a top line talent and not have to give up future drafting assets.
    If a pick is needed I would really like to keep this years pick. A shooter would be a high priority and there are 2-3 that would be available.....Duarte

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  • Peck
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    In listeing to the Lowe Podcast today (sorry if this has already been covered) but if we had an owner who would allow it, he won't, I think that the Pacers actually for once in our lives could be one of the leading candidates to get Simmons.

    In his podcast it was brought up that Embiid is 27 and does not want to go through a rebuilding process and that typically for major stars like this teams want a bounty of draft picks and young talent so that they can quickly rebuild. Philly is not going to be like that, they are going to want to win now. So in most cases in a win now mode teams are going to want a major star back, Simmons is a distressed asset and therefor he is not going to get dollar for dollar trade value so to speak with other teams.

    The Pacers could actually put together a package that provided the 76ers with players that could help Embiid right now and maybe even a potential draft pick going forward. I'd hold that pick if at all possible but you may have to include it.

    A straight swap of Simmons for T.J. Warren and Malcolm Brogdan works. Normally they would just laugh us out of the building if we offered that but his star has really fallen so that might not be a bad return for them and in all honesty those two would probably work really well with Embiid.

    This still allows you to move either Turner or Sabonis for a wing that can score.

    Really you could remake your team over night. I think Simmons is going to look better at his next stop than what he has in the last series and honestly Indiana and our low criticism press would be the perfect place for him after the Philly market. He could come here out of the spotlight and the demands that come with being the # 1 pick and he could rejuvinate his career here.

    It's never going to happen but this would be a nice way to get a top line talent and not have to give up future drafting assets.

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  • SaintLouisan
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    Originally posted by dal9 View Post

    if u want to take a better example, james jones. but suffice it to say, simmons doesn't seem to have that mental makeup.
    Looking at his college stats on BBref though, he did shoot 40% from three on 100 attempts in his senior year (and 38% on 324 attempts in his college career)...so there was something there to work with. Just never seen anything like that from Simmons.

    Can't argue with the second sentence. He seems like the kinda guy who's just happy being a multimillionaire dating supermodels. Which I suppose is not exactly a crazy way to think, but it's not what you should want on your basketball team.

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