All things Roy Hibbert for the next year or so....

[3rdStrike]

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I think it is difficult for many to believe Roy was a locker room problem because up until he was a problem he seemed to us to be a great teammate. So Roy was given the benefit of the doubt by me and others because if we did a poll 3 seasons ago about who might became a locker room problem, Roy likely would have been at the bottom of that list.

So many of us are slow to come to the realization that Roy was a problem. I know I was slow to come around. Quick to blame Lance solely.

Exactly. But it's interesting how people felt that Lance not returning would be addition by subtraction, but those same people don't feel the same about the guy who is actually being outed as being a problem child, based on more than mere speculation.

[FrenchConnection]

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At some point Roy is going to have his Tyson Chandler moment, when he realizes that his role in the NBA is as an outstanding defensive player. It took Chandler a few years a teams to grow into the this role. I hope that Roy can make this transition as well, but it was never going to happen here.

[Ragnar]

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I hope people cheer for Roy when he comes back, but I'm kind of doubting it.

I never go to the Lakers games because the casual fans drive up the ticket costs on that game but I plan on going the next time just to cheer for Roy in his return.

Always blows my mind that I can get fantastic tickets to see up and coming teams like the Bucks and T-Wolves but down and out teams like the Lakers are expensive because they used to be good. Are these people not watching the NBA?

[Eleazar]

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Well I disagree with your disagreement. I think there were several things said and written over the past couple of seasons by reporters to color commentators about having to get Roy engaged on offense early on because Roy would play harder on defense when he was engaged on offense. To me that is a not to subtle way of saying if Roy doesn't have his touches he doesn't play hard. Unless they wanted to come right out and say Roy is a selfish a-hole who is making a stink about not being the focal point of the offense, that's about as good as it gets.

Could you imagine your righteous indignation if they said they had to get Lance Stephenson involved in early plays in the offense or he would not play as hard defensively? You would have looked like Moses shattering the tablets and rightfully so.

Peck that concept isn't unique to Roy. It is simply human nature. If someone does not feel involved and unappreciated it is going to affect them, even if it isn't conscious or purposeful. The difference between Roy and Foster is Roy wasn't offensively inept.

[PacersPride]

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Peck that concept isn't unique to Roy. It is simply human nature. If someone does not feel involved and unappreciated it is going to affect them, even if it isn't conscious or purposeful. The difference between Roy and Foster is Roy wasn't offensively inept.

You got to be kidding me. Foster could actually make a layup. Unlike the 7'2 stiff that gets blocked by the likes of Kyle Korver. That's hogwash on Foster.

Its been reported, and Bird mentioned it that Foster had offensive game but he sacrificed it for the good of the team. Foster had a nice jumpshot, granted Roy has a better elbow jumper, but Foster could finish around the rim.

Jeff Foster sacrificed much more than some fans appreciate.

[joew8302]

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You got to be kidding me. Foster could actually make a layup. Unlike the 7'2 stiff that gets blocked by the likes of Kyle Korver. That's hogwash on Foster.

Its been reported, and Bird mentioned it that Foster had offensive game but he sacrificed it for the good of the team. Foster had a nice jumpshot, granted Roy has a better elbow jumper, but Foster could finish around the rim.

Jeff Foster sacrificed much more than some fans appreciate.

Fans are like Roy himself. Seemed like Roy would either give you an A or f. Pacer fans follow suite by either loving or hating Roy, not much in between.

[ECKrueger]

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You got to be kidding me. Foster could actually make a layup. Unlike the 7'2 stiff that gets blocked by the likes of Kyle Korver. That's hogwash on Foster.

Its been reported, and Bird mentioned it that Foster had offensive game but he sacrificed it for the good of the team. Foster had a nice jumpshot, granted Roy has a better elbow jumper, but Foster could finish around the rim.

Jeff Foster sacrificed much more than some fans appreciate.

I love Jeff Foster, but you really think you could dump the ball down to him in the post and he could do anything? Roy had far more offensive potential than Foster.

[Eleazar]

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By the way Rik Smits got blocked once by John Stark once, yet no one uses one play as a knock against Rik's offense. If you went back and watched those two plays Rik getting blocked was much more pathetic than Roy's.

[Kuq_e_Zi91]

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At some point Roy is going to have his Tyson Chandler moment, when he realizes that his role in the NBA is as an outstanding defensive player. It took Chandler a few years a teams to grow into the this role. I hope that Roy can make this transition as well, but it was never going to happen here.

Roy's got nearly as many 20-10 games in the regular season as Tyson Chandler, except Roy's done it in half as many years.

In the playoffs, Chandler had one 20-10 game back in 2005 when he was 22. That's it. Hibbert's already got six 20-10 playoff games and he's still only 28.

[sarc]

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Its been reported, and Bird mentioned it that Foster had offensive game but he sacrificed it for the good of the team. Foster had a nice jumpshot, granted Roy has a better elbow jumper, but Foster could finish around the rim.

Sure, there's a lot of evidence exactly for that.

To be more serious, sure we can't say Foster didn't have any offensive game, but to compare him with Roy is ridiculous.

[Speed]

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Poor Jeff. One of my fav Pacers ever, but he was a missed lay up waiting to happen. Actually Jeff Foster would be awesome on the new team.

[Sandman21]

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Always blows my mind that I can get fantastic tickets to see up and coming teams like the Bucks and T-Wolves but down and out teams like the Lakers are expensive because they used to be good. Are these people not watching the NBA?

Give it two years on the Lakers. Kobe's farewell tour is going to sell out, even if the Lakers suck. I think that's been part of the selling point for them the last few years anyway. With Kobe being more injury prone, you DON'T know if you'll get a chance to see him play again.

[owl]

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Poor Jeff. One of my fav Pacers ever, but he was a missed lay up waiting to happen. Actually Jeff Foster would be awesome on the new team.

That is exactly the type of player the Pacers need to add to the mix. Get the player from Louisville.

[PacersPride]

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I love Jeff Foster, but you really think you could dump the ball down to him in the post and he could do anything? Roy had far more offensive potential than Foster.

I believe you could actually pass Foster the ball and he catch and finish. Whereas Roy.... not the most nimble leave it at that. Roy cant post that well anyways. Its a wasted possession either way. Foster accepted his role and excelled.

I agree no you cannot bounce pass in the post to Jeff. Not his game obviously, much like Tyson Chandler, no not a post player, but he could catch and finish in traffic.

Foster was excellent around the rim. Reason i take such exception to the hogwash. Foster was sneaky smooth around the rim. Could go up and under, or just quick flip it in underneatch the contest.

and btw... Foster could dunk.

[Eleazar]

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That is exactly the type of player the Pacers need to add to the mix. Get the player from Louisville.

We already have a player like him in Lavoy.