The Rules of Pacers Digest

Hello everyone,

Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.

A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.

Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.

Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.

Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

Rule #2

If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star

Rule #6

We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.

The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on

Rule #7

Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

Rule #8

We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

Rule #9

Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.

Rule #10

We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.

Rule #11

Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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  • The Wolf Game 20X6: NO NIGHT ONLY END OF GAME

    The Year 20X6

    It was a mistake. A hideous mistake. When the Alliance started to imprinting animal DNA onto people, everything seemed fine. Women got cu little cat tails they could accessorize with (and the claws did wonders for many people's sex lives) and men used the imprints more for athletic enhancement. Basketball players started using giraffe DNA; they had to raise the rim to 14 feet tall! Soccer players preferred kangaroos and the leg strength they provided.

    But then the military got involved. They needed more aggressive soldiers. Ones with a killer instinct and a nose for battle. They tried lions but they spend most of their day lying around really, the manes were a hit though. Sharks were too aggressive, people imprinted weren't able to stop the shark DNA from taking over. But wolves, oh the wolves...

    Wolves worked well in a pack or alone, they were quick, had great senses of smell and it just seemed to fit, what with the werewolf tales of yore. Men and women imprinted seemed to be able control the aggression so that they could lead normal lives. The Alliance was able to defeat their enemies; they called them the Turncoats, we freedom fighters just called ourselves the Coats. They defeated us, and they defeated the colonists on the outer systems. They controlled all of the habitable planets.

    And then it came, the uprising. All of the wolves, or prints, as they were called (all of the other imprints had stopped as a means to end the Coats efforts) turned on their Alliance leaders. Their numbers were too great, the Alliance had overestimated their loyalty. The prints showed more aggression than previously thought. They killed anyone on the central planets who wasn't a print and ate them to boot.

    We were safer on the outer planets, especially Digestopolis. We had no contact with Alliance planets because I've been on the run. Myself and my crew are the only ones on this moon. It's in a cloud of electromagnetic noise, undetectable by most ships' radar systems. But there have been rumblings as of late. People have seen shadows in the night, people gathering after curfew with perhaps terrible plans.

    I hope prints haven't infiltrated my crew, but I fear the worst. There is some hope though. We have two androids to help us out. We have one “Guardian Angel” who can protect one crewmember at night, and a “Seer” who can tell if people have a wolf print. They were the only reasons us Coats lasted as long as we did against the prints. We're more like a family than a small town here. I'd hate for anything to happen to them:

    Since86 EATEN Night 2 (Human)
    btowncolt - EATEN Night 3 (Human)
    N8R - AIRLOCK'D Day 3 (Wolf)
    Major Cold - EATEN Night 4 (Human)
    Suaveness - RIPPED IN HALF Night 6 (Human)
    Hicks - AIRLOCK'D Day 1 (Human)
    Bellisimo - AIRLOCK'D Day 5 (Wolf)
    Dabney Prood
    SycamoreKen - AIRLOCK'D Day 4 (Human)
    Trader Joe - SHOT BETWEEN THE EYES Day 6 (Wolf)
    Los Angeles
    sweabs - AIRLOCK'd/SPLODED on Day 2 (Angel)
    Ms Piggy - EATEN on Night 5 (Human)
    billbradley - AIRLOCK'D on Day 7 (Wolf)
    Flox - EATEN ON TAPE on Night 7
    Kuq - HEAD EATEN on Night 1 (Human)
    Sookie - AIRLOCK'D on Day 8 (Wolf)
    Anthem - EATEN on Night 0 (Human)

    Los Angeles
    Dabney Prood

    I'm Pig Nash. This is my moon, hell if anyone's gonna take it from me. It's night now, we'll see how the situation plays out by the morning.

    [ooc]If you have not received a pm, you're a human. Here's how the game works in case you're not clear yet. At “night” wolves, the seer, and the angel will pm me their choices to kill, see, and protect. Once they do, I'll post a story in the “morning” explaining the outcome. Then we will vote to lynch one crewmember in the “day.” Majority rule, and you may only change your vote once during a round.

    The wolves are trying to outnumber the humans, the humans are trying to kill all the wolves. Good luck![/ooc]
    Last edited by Pig Nash; 07-01-2010, 11:51 PM.
    Play Mafia!

  • #2
    Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

    I'm laying down the law right now. The sheep are mine. Stay away. Mmm. Sheep*******!!!
    Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.


    • #3
      Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

      [ooc] and the sheep are trying to escape notice from both parties! [/ooc]


      • #4
        Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue



        • #5
          Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

          Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.


          • #6
            Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

            Robot sheep?
            Play Mafia!


            • #7
              Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

              Maybe some girls got imprinted with sheep DNA?
              “Take nothing away from their Big Three, what they have going, but we’ll take a big five any day. That’s what we have.”- Paul George


              • #8
                Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

                Originally posted by Pig Nash View Post
                Robot sheep?
                Supple robot sheep.


                • #9
                  Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

                  Captain's log star date 230610.15:

                  I awoke this morning confused and possessing a mysterious sense of self-awareness, as if I knew my future audience for these entries was actually a collection of people from the distant past. I realize the paradox seemingly in play, yet I know it to be true and intend to take advantage of the situation.

                  Hey there, past-folks! The future is friggin' awesome. Want to get laid? There's a 'bot for that. Want bigger junk? There's a pill for that. And it works. Why? Because it's the ****ing future, that's why.

                  You have NO idea how much it sucks for you that you weren't born in my time. It's amazing here.

                  Well, most of the time. These genetic "modifications" everyone's so crazy about are nuts if you ask me. There's even rumors that some of those military wolf freaks have made there way all the way out here!

                  Hopefully this works out better than whenever those *insert Chinese here* Reavers decide to raid a colony.

                  Not much I can do about it, though. Fortunately, I've got three fembots ready and waiting for me each night to keep me warm, so as long as it ain't me getting snacked on (err, in a bad way), I'm good!

                  *lights a cigar*


                  • #10
                    Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

                    Originally posted by Ms. Piggy View Post
                    Maybe some girls got imprinted with sheep DNA?
                    Yeah... girls...


                    • #11
                      Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

                      What's a "girl"?


                      • #12
                        Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

                        I think it's time for a Supple Robot Sheep Sexy Party!!
                        Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.


                        • #13
                          Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

                          Spoke to Pig Nash today.

                          Told me there may be prints in our midst. If there are, I fear for my life. Highly trained and blood thirsty. I need to make sure I clean my rifle. I've outlasted them this long and I'll be damned if they get me now. I've been a mercenary and intergalactic trader my whole life. I've outwitted, smarter, stronger foes than damn space wolves.

                          Time to go speak to the rest of the folks and see what they think...

                          -From the Journal of Trader Joe

                          (OOC)My journal entries will be in italics. Regular speaking or contributions will not be in italics. Game on!(/OOC)
                          Last edited by Trader Joe; 06-23-2010, 03:22 PM.


                          • #14
                            Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

                   do I explain this. A girl is a human, like you men-folk, but instead of a Y-chromosome we have an X-chromosome. Appearance wise, we generally are larger in the chest region and we have different parts below the waist. Female have habits of going shopping and to the bathroom in groups, we are the reason people are born, and once a month we have dangerously sudden mood swings and unexplained cravings for chocolate and/or other sweet and salty foods.
                            “Take nothing away from their Big Three, what they have going, but we’ll take a big five any day. That’s what we have.”- Paul George


                            • #15
                              Re: The Wolf Game 20X6: Night 0 Prologue

                              God damned sheep ****ers! Stay off my moon rocks!