The Rules of Pacers Digest

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Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

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If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

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If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
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It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

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We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

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  • The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

    Many years ago in a town far away, I lived through a horror I still remember to this very day…

    It had been a dark and stormy night in the little hamlet of DigestVille.

    I did not awake as I often did to my customary jam and toast brought to me by my slave boy Sweabs.

    “Sweabs! Sweabs!” I shouted at the top of my lungs, but to no avail. This angered me, Sweabs knew the consequences if he was late. He would be forced to watch all of Gigli, and once he had finished that he would be required to peel 107 onions with his teeth. I hauled my tired rear out of bed, and got dressed. I figured he had gotten lost in the town square going to purchase the fruits he used to make fresh jam every morning; the poor boy was awfully slow after all.

    As I moved towards the front door of the Mayor’s Mansion, there was a loud BANG, BANG, BANG on the door. I swung it open, and who to my eyes should appear, but Sweabs’s good friend N8R.

    “Newms, my dear boy what troubles you? Have you seen your infantile friend Sweabs?”, I said.

    “M-m-mayor Indy, S-s-sweabs, sweabs has been murdered,” He replied.
    “Murdered? When? Where? Who? What? Why? How?,” I wanted to make sure I covered all my bases.
    N8R began his answer, “Last night. In front of the lab.” Sweabs did love a good nightly romp in the puddles in front of Gyron’s lab during the rain. N8R continued, “The who is btowncolt, but erm there’s more to that story, sir. You’ll have to see for yourself. I expect that will answer why, and um, well, how is also a bit hard to explain. Gyron was able to kill the murderer, but not before he suffered grave injuries.”

    “Well, let us make haste to the lab, I must speak with Gyron, and see the damage for myself,” I replied as we headed off towards the lab.

    As we neared the lab, I could see that I was apparently the last person in town to find out about these events, not surprising as I usually woke up around 3pm. I value my sleep, that’s how I live my life now, let’s just move on.

    “About time you showed up!” shouted Hicks.

    “All my pretty lady friends have already abandoned me!” Cried Bellisimo.

    “The children and their families have all withdrawn from my school!” Lamented SycamoreKen.

    “The sheep! The glorious sheep are scared! I must comfort them.” yelled Suaveness.

    I could barely concentrate over all the complaints. Do they think this is why I became a politician? To fix things? Pffft, I’m in it for the ladies thank you, and the free meals.

    Finally a voice of reason spoke out, it was Anthem.

    “Mayor Indy!” He shouted. “Gyron will only hang on for so long he has massive internal bleeding, and he is missing his left leg!”

    Truthfully, this did not disturb me, as I was just now laying my eyes on the bodies of Sweabs and his murderer. Sweabs had been ripped limb from limb, but trust me not before he was thoroughly violated by the perpetrator of this crime, our very own local sheep farmer, btowncolt. Only there was something strange, btown was covered in fur from head to toe. The only thing that could readily identify him was the tattoo on his right bicep which read, I HEART SHEEP (IN MORE THAN ONE WAY). Yes it was a very long winded tattoo, but that is not the point.

    Anthem broke me out of my daze, “Sir, you must come quickly.”
    “That’s what she said!” yelled Toxic Avenger.
    “Erm, um, yeah sure, well anyways, like I said you really need to come quickly Gyron is fading fast, and his memory is already fuzzy, he has a concussion as well.” Anthem stated calmly.

    A concussion? I thought to myself why that is nothing more than a headache.

    Anthem lead me to Gyron, and before I could even speak, Gyron began reciting his last words, “I don’t have much time, I come from a long line of werewolf hunters, there is a den in this town. Btowncolt was one of them, but he was not an important piece of their hierarchy. There are four more, I believe, I know who two of them are their names are…..”

    Gyron coughed and with that he breathed his last.

    I returned outside.

    “What is going on here?” Natstoned cried.

    I replied, “My friends, we face an infestation of four werewolves among us. They must be eradicated. Each day we will vote for one of our own to hang from the gallows. Today will mark the first day. This evening we must hang a WOLF!”
    Last edited by Trader Joe; 06-04-2010, 04:18 PM.

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    Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

    PMs have been sent for roles. If you didn't receive a PM you are a townsperson.

    Here is the list of current residents of our fine town:

    Anthem- Human eaten on night 5
    Bellisimo- Wolf hung on Day 2
    Binarysolo- Human killed on night 6
    Brushwithdeath-Human Hung on Day 1
    cdash- Human hung on Day 4
    Dabney Prood- Human hung on day 7
    Kuq_e_Zi91- Human hung on day 6
    Major Cold
    N8R- Seer killed night 3
    Pig Nash
    Rupert Stilinski- Human killed night 4
    Since86- Angel killed on night 2
    Suaveness- Wolf hung on day 5
    SycamoreKen- Human killed on night 7
    The Toxic Avenger
    Trophy- Human Hung day 3
    vapacersfan- Human killed on night 8
    Last edited by Trader Joe; 06-18-2010, 02:16 PM.


    • #3
      Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

      Eeeeck! I must keep my bottle close.So many people to choose from, so little information. I think a little liquid courage should do the trick. Who is going to start the first mob, and who will they choose to hang?

      EDIT: Agreed sweabs. Love how you took infamous PD lines and put them too good use.
      Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.


      • #4
        Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

        Vote now for who you wish to hang from the gallows on this first day!


        • #5
          Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

          I think we should shoot each person in the face with a silver bullet -- if he dies, we know he must have been one of the wolves!


          • #6
            Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

            Alright! So it's day now?

            Also how did you come up with 3? We've played at least 5 times.
            Play Mafia!


            • #7
              Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

              Yes, it is day time. I went with three because I think there are only two other threads still present in the PD archives. Plus three sounds better


              • #8
                Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

                I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw my good friend sweabs had been raped by that damned btowncolt. I knew sweabs was into some rather freaky stuff but I didn't think it was this intense. I had once walked in on sweabs down on all fours taking it in the arse from a hobo who was passing through town. When I asked what was going on, sweabs invited me to join the party to which I promptly told him to go **** himself which he began doing. I left in disgust.

                Werewolves in this town? This can't be good. I now have to suspect everyone.


                • #9
                  Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

                  Originally posted by binarysolo View Post
                  I think we should shoot each person in the face with a silver bullet -- if he dies, we know he must have been one of the wolves!
                  Silver bullets, hangings, it's all the same to me.

                  I'm gonna try and stay out of the thread as little as possible. Just tally votes, and write the major events.


                  • #10
                    Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

                    Alas if only our town was rich enough to have silver bullets... We're stuck with keystone light.
                    Play Mafia!


                    • #11
                      Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

                      [ooc]You can post in this thread sweabs but that was your only one. Only game talk. For all others if you want to speak out of character or ask actual game questions do it inside of an [ooc] (out of character) brackets. [/ooc]


                      • #12
                        Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

                        A few mumbles have begun amongst the town. One wants to shoot everyone with some sort of silver bullet and another can't tell day from night. Both very suspicious.


                        • #13
                          Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

                          One way or another, this is it.

                          I've got a bullet with my name on it to either face my Maker or annihilation after too many years in this god-forsaken town ripping my soul into shreds.

                          Still, the loose bits of what remains compels me to at least try to give these folks a chance at a better life, and at the very least I might take these mother****ing freaks down with me.

                          *Carves two lines across his forearm* To remember the fallen.

                          Only chance is to get lucky or outsmart these *******s. Gonna need to keep a close eye on the votes, but the first day is gonna be the worst. No patterns, no real suspects other than petty personal differences stirring folks into a witch-hunt. Could get ugly fast.

                          But someone has to go. I vote for Anthem. Unbias; alphabetical selection.


                          • #14
                            Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

                            Goodness gracious! What a spectacle!

                            A werewolf! Four werewolves! I wouldn't believe it for a second if I didn't see the mutilation of the body. I didn't hardly know the deceased, but to see a man torn to pieces like that will haunt you for a long time.

                            So now we have to vote a man killed? This isn't good, not at all. I've heard of things like this. This kind of fear and desperation can tear a village apart just as easily as the werewolves themselves.

                            Well, the least I can do is try to work this out intelligently. What do I really know about wolves? Pretty much just big dogs, right? Keen sense of smell? Prey on the farmer's sheep?

                            Hold on there... that's right -- there have been many sheep gone missing the past few weeks. And who is always around those sheep, comforting them when they are scared, talking to them, staring lustfully at their soft smooth coats? Suaveness.

                            "I vote for Suaveness!"


                            • #15
                              Re: The Wolf Game III: This Time It's Personal

                              People are starting to scare easily now. Just knowing the fate of the town is in our hands is a scary thing. No one can be trusted yet we have to work together to rid this god for saken town of these beasts.