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  • Bball
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    I have a feeling being head coach AND calling the plays is catching up with Reich and this team. The team and/or QB isn't up to it and Reich's own confidence is shaken and/or misplaced. So it's affecting the calls. His job is on the line with every series now.

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  • PacerDude
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    Originally posted by Sollozzo
    This team could easily be 0-5 after the Ravens game and there are also still a ton of tough games left on the schedule after that (though I guess every game is tough for us at this point given how bad we look).

    Those who were skeptical about Wentz were right. I was wrong - I thought it was a solid pickup.

    How does the 2022 draft look for QB's at the top?
    Right there with you. I thought that Reich could fix Wentz, but as broken as the Oline is, that's not looking likely.

    I guarantee that Jimmy Irsay is already thinking about how he can get Arch Manning. He's a HS junior this year, so 3, 4 more years ?? Jimmy is already figuring out how to do it.

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  • BornIndy
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    Damn... horrible start to the season. Now Nelson is inured too. Colts are still alive but they need a win next week.

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  • Bball
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    Originally posted by Sollozzo
    This team could easily be 0-5 after the Ravens game and there are also still a ton of tough games left on the schedule after that (though I guess every game is tough for us at this point given how bad we look).

    Those who were skeptical about Wentz were right. I was wrong - I thought it was a solid pickup.

    How does the 2022 draft look for QB's at the top?
    If we don't sit Wentz for 25% of the games, don't we lose our first round pick to the Eagles?
    CAN we just sit Wentz or does he have to be ruled medically inactive?
    I forget the exacts of the deal that brought Wentz here.

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  • Bball
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    This season is feeling kind of... bleak...

    There's not a whole lot to hang our hats on as far as reasons to think things will get better. At some point, Irsay will pull the plug and make this about draft position if there isn't a miracle turnaround quickly. And that is understandable, because that is how it works in modern sports.

    That we went into a season trying, or multiple seasons really, is more on the way Luck quit on the team with a team already developed and developing around him. So it was a huge short-circuit and not a situation where anyone wanted to go back to the drawing board. But now that the duct tape, bailing wire, and glue is coming off... that approach is probably on thin ice.

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  • Sollozzo
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    This team could easily be 0-5 after the Ravens game and there are also still a ton of tough games left on the schedule after that (though I guess every game is tough for us at this point given how bad we look).

    Those who were skeptical about Wentz were right. I was wrong - I thought it was a solid pickup.

    How does the 2022 draft look for QB's at the top?

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  • Bball
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    Originally posted by Trader Joe
    Irsay said this today before the game against the Titans https://twitter.com/ChrisHaganIndy/s...403767296?s=20

    Irsay normally is such a soft gloved owner when it comes to his players, I can rarely if ever remember him cirticizing a player publicly and the fact he's saying this about Wentz only two games in and then you have today as well. Clearly the relationship with the franchise and Wentz is already strained because of his attitude and although the vaccine is very clearly an issue, I don't think Irsay would say these sorts of things if there were not other issues causing strain.

    Reich and Ballard just really screwed this pooch the past offseason. Also, the more I think about it, I think it's somewhat telling that Rivers didn't come back for a second season just to see what could happen after an 11-5 first season. I think the Colts franchise is really a mess on the inside.
    It's just hard to say about Rivers, unless he says something, because he could've simply wanted to exit football on his terms and the Chargers took that away from him. He came to the Colts, did well, and did well enough to be asked back/wanted and he instead retired on his terms. "Leave 'em wanting more".

    So your theory is plausible and so is the above... at least without more evidence.

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  • clownskull
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    Originally posted by Trader Joe
    this team is awful and the fact we extended ballard and reich through 2026 a month ago makes us look completely incompetent from top to bottom.
    Yeh, this is definitely not a playoff squad.

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  • Trader Joe
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    Originally posted by Bball
    I'm going to paraphrase Pat McAfee... "Every (pass) play is like watching a guy falling down the stairs..."

    He seemed to be of the mind that Wentz is looking to do too much and not just getting the ball out. Which is hurting the line. And risking his health (hence the falling down the stairs comment).

    You could make the argument that the Colts need receivers... Except Philip Rivers seemed to do fine with essentially this same receiving corps.

    Of course, I STILL think not kicking the FGs will almost always be a mistake in the circumstances we've seen this season, so that doesn't help the Colts' ineptness in the red zone.
    It's easy to blame Wentz for the offensive line issues, but he's getting hit or pressure plenty off the intital drop back. Eric Fisher is getting abused in his two appearances. Kelly and Nelson are not at an all pro level, and our protection schemes are really crappy. Plus the line issues extend way past Wentz, the running game has not lifted off at all and remember we were supposed to be able to hang our hat on that this season.

    But again let's talk play calling, we threw the ball THIRTY SEVEN TIMES today in a game that was never really that far out of our reach, we only ran the ball EIGHTEEN times. This is a recipe that might not be successful for this team even if Wentz and the offensive line were 100% simply because our wideouts really are pretty underwhelming overall, but it makes even less sense when you consider that Wentz was very clearly not 100% and the pass protection is absolutely a joke. The offensive play calling is not putting the team in a spot to win, and the players are playing badly as well, overall you just have a very unimpressive unit.

    Also, all this should not let the defense off the hook. They want to behave like a top 5 unit in the league and the simple fact is, they don't deliver the wins to back it up on their own. They've given up 28, 27, and 25 points so far. Great defenses don't do that. Moreover, yes they caused 3 turnovers today, but in some ways that makes it even more disturbing that they gave up 25 points when they won the turnover battle in a +3.

    Which makes me think, how often does an NFL team lose a game with a +3 turnover margin? I bet it almost never happens. This is just not a good football team right now and that stat kind of proves it. If they were, a +3 turnover margin should be enough to get it done today, even if it was ugly and a final score of like 16-14 or something. We should have been able to ugly it out and win with our running game (which again play calling basically neutered it right away) and our supposedly top flight defense.

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  • Basketball Fan
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    Originally posted by Trader Joe
    Irsay said this today before the game against the Titans https://twitter.com/ChrisHaganIndy/s...403767296?s=20

    Irsay normally is such a soft gloved owner when it comes to his players, I can rarely if ever remember him cirticizing a player publicly and the fact he's saying this about Wentz only two games in and then you have today as well. Clearly the relationship with the franchise and Wentz is already strained because of his attitude and although the vaccine is very clearly an issue, I don't think Irsay would say these sorts of things if there were not other issues causing strain.

    Reich and Ballard just really screwed this pooch the past offseason. Also, the more I think about it, I think it's somewhat telling that Rivers didn't come back for a second season just to see what could happen after an 11-5 first season. I think the Colts franchise is really a mess on the inside.
    Well that and Rivers is almost 40 but yeah I figured he would return and I honestly think that Reich wanted Wentz but Irsay didn't IMO which is where those Luck possibly returning rumors came from.

    I think healthy Wentz is good (although I don't know if he'll ever be the same QB he was before he got hurt the year he won the SB though). However he's not healthy but then again the last decade we've dealt with injury prone QBs.

    I wonder if it dawns on this franchise that you shouldn't live and die by a QB you think after Manning's exit from the Colts and Luck's sudden retirement it would dawn on them and yet....

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  • Trader Joe
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    Irsay said this today before the game against the Titans https://twitter.com/ChrisHaganIndy/s...403767296?s=20

    Irsay normally is such a soft gloved owner when it comes to his players, I can rarely if ever remember him cirticizing a player publicly and the fact he's saying this about Wentz only two games in and then you have today as well. Clearly the relationship with the franchise and Wentz is already strained because of his attitude and although the vaccine is very clearly an issue, I don't think Irsay would say these sorts of things if there were not other issues causing strain.

    Reich and Ballard just really screwed this pooch the past offseason. Also, the more I think about it, I think it's somewhat telling that Rivers didn't come back for a second season just to see what could happen after an 11-5 first season. I think the Colts franchise is really a mess on the inside.

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  • Bball
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    I'm going to paraphrase Pat McAfee... "Every (pass) play is like watching a guy falling down the stairs..."

    He seemed to be of the mind that Wentz is looking to do too much and not just getting the ball out. Which is hurting the line. And risking his health (hence the falling down the stairs comment).

    You could make the argument that the Colts need receivers... Except Philip Rivers seemed to do fine with essentially this same receiving corps.

    Of course, I STILL think not kicking the FGs will almost always be a mistake in the circumstances we've seen this season, so that doesn't help the Colts' ineptness in the red zone.

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  • Trader Joe
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    Originally posted by Dab
    Wow, it would basically be surrendering the game but if Nelson is out do you sit Wentz so he doesn't get killed?
    nelson hasn't been playing well all season anyway.

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  • Trader Joe
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    Originally posted by PacerDude
    As nice of a guy as Reich is -- maybe he's not exactly what an NFL team needs as a head coach.

    There needs to be accountability from the O-Line and the D-Line. Despite all the alleged talent that's there, they've pretty much been crap this season. Instead of the usual - Well, we'll work to improve, maybe a few harsh words would work better ?? I don't know. How DO you motivate these guys anymore ?? What does it take to get them to play their butts off ?? I just haven't seen that from the whole team this season yet. And while I do appreciate the boldness of going for it on 4th, maybe Frank needs to look at the success rate he's had in doing that here. Sometimes, taking the FG is OK to do.

    I jut don't know.... I do know that this was another game that the Colts weren't going to win. After getting shut down on a 1st & goal from the 1 -- it was clear who the better team was.
    the play calling has not been helpful at all though either and then you have reich say before this game that he's happy with our redzone strategy and play calling. Really dude you are? Then today, more failure in the red zone having to settle for multiple field goals when we're basiclaly inside the 10 yard line for 3 plays. Just unacceptable.

    reich just isn't a head coach as far as i can see. feels a lot like pagano all over again. a lot of feel good ******** that amounts to absolutely nothing.

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  • Trader Joe
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    this team is awful and the fact we extended ballard and reich through 2026 a month ago makes us look completely incompetent from top to bottom.

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