Thunder/Pacers discussed Harden deal
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Re: Thunder/Pacers discussed Harden deal
So the Pacers took a risk by doing nothing? sorry but I don't buy it.@WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!Comment
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If you look at the moves we made individually I think you are right vnzla. Collison + Jones for Mahinmi doesn't make very much sense because we had the capspace to sign Mahinmi outright. But when you look at all of the moves together it makes sense. They wanted Jones out so they could give basically the same contract to Green. They wanted Ian, but Dallas didn't particularly want Jones. But they did want Collison, so Dallas agreed to take Jones if they got Collison as well. The loss of Collison might hurt this year until we let him leave this offseason, but they knew they would be able to acquire Augustin.
You can disagree that Ian and Green weren't the best offseason targets, but they are the right age for our team. And Green as a third wing doesn't seem so bad if you always have one of George or Granger out there.Time for a new sig.Comment
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Those who are saying the Pacers need to take more risks don't want them to take more risks; they want them to sign the players they think are better. It's a risk up until the point where it doesn't seem to be working. At that point, it is a bad decision. Which is what all of the Pacers moves have been deemed to be.Time for a new sig.Comment
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No, it really wasn't. They gave 4 picks to the Suns to get Nash. They gave Andrew Bynum (who has yet to play a game in a non-Laker uniform), Josh McRoberts and Christian Eyenga to get Dwight Howard, Chris Duhon and Earl Clark. I mean, wow.
They certainly risked and parted with so many great assets to get 2 possible HOFers /green
I don't know how people can think that any team other than the Lakers would be able to do those deals.
And now you're talking. The Celtics have a loyal fan base. They knew that they could risk beig bad and still have fans attending their games. Not all teams are lucky like that. Not all teams are supported in their own city..Originally posted by IrishPacer
Empty vessels make the most noise.Comment
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Everybody and their mom knew that neither Green or Ian have proven to be good players with years in the NBA is not like they were some rookies or anything.@WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!Comment
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I don't agree with your player evaluation, but your argument makes zero since. In your opinion, the players signed were riskier moves because "everyone and their mom" knew they weren't good players.
I remember people and their mothers saying the same thing about the Gasol trade, you can't have it both ways.Comment
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Given the fact that now we know that both LeBron and Bosh were in contact and decided to sign together with the Heat when they were still in Cleveland and Toronto, I say that it was pretty much was a forgone conclusion that they were going to sign there. At least for the players involved.
I guess someone should have told New York, New Jersey, Chicago, and Houston that. If this isn't captain hindsight I don't know what is. We had THE DECISION hour long special, but it was 100% for sure always going to happen.Comment
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Ha, so you're telling me because more people knew that these players weren't good, it was less of a risk for the Pacers to sign these players to get better?
I don't agree with your player evaluation, but your argument makes zero since. In your opinion, the players signed were riskier moves because "everyone and their mom" knew they weren't good players.
I remember people and their mothers saying the same thing about the Gasol trade, you can't have it both ways.Comment
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Risk has to have upside. There is no upside to bringing in Ian. No one has ever seen him play and said, "you know, I really think that kid is going to be an amazing player one day..." I can get behind someone possibly saying that about Green, so I'll give you that one, but Ian? C'mon.BillS
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...Comment
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Risk has to have upside. There is no upside to bringing in Ian. No one has ever seen him play and said, "you know, I really think that kid is going to be an amazing player one day..." I can get behind someone possibly saying that about Green, so I'll give you that one, but Ian? C'mon.Comment
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Risk has to have upside. There is no upside to bringing in Ian. No one has ever seen him play and said, "you know, I really think that kid is going to be an amazing player one day..." I can get behind someone possibly saying that about Green, so I'll give you that one, but Ian? C'mon.Time for a new sig.Comment
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