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  • Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

    Figured I would make a thread where we could specifically discuss our thoughts specifically pertaining to this 1st round series matchup vs. the Chicago Bulls..

    Also would like this thread for posting any news articles pertaining to this series as they pop up leading into the playoffs..



    I'll start with a news article I just read.




    Bulls Go From Underdogs To Favorites


    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...s_To_Favorites

    Apr 09, 2011 1:51 PM EDT


    The last two seasons, the Chicago Bulls squeaked into the playoffs as the eighth seed in the East.

    This season, the Bulls hold the first seed, going from underdogs to favorites.

    "I know it's going to be different because everybody is going to be expecting us to win," Derrick Rose said. "But Thibs will have us ready."

    That would be coach Tom Thibodeau, who said he doesn't plan to rest his starters over the final three games, since the Bulls are still chasing the San Antonio Spurs for the league's best overall record and home-court advantage through the NBA Finals.

    Via Chicago Tribune










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    With the above article being read, I just want to say I hope we shock the world and upset the Bulls ..

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    "Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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    Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

    Most of you will call me crazy after saying this(probably because I am) but I am going with my heart on this series.

    Everyone has or will be writing us off in this series, and probably with good cause.

    The Bulls are playing great basketball of late, but this is Indiana basketball. We have been playing with confidence and the will to win in the month of April.

    I think that we steal one of the first 2 games @ Chicago, and we close out the series in Indy for game 6.

    Like I said, I am crazy for saying this because I know it probably won't happen, but someone has to believe in this team pulling the upset.

    #8 Denver over #1 Sonics in 1994
    #8 Knicks over #1 Miami in 1999
    #8 Warriors over Mavs in 2007
    #8 Pacers over Bulls in 2011

    With all that being said, GO PACERS!!!!
    Last edited by KingGeorge; 04-10-2011, 03:24 AM. Reason: typo

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      Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

      Originally posted by KingGeorge View Post
      Most of you will call me crazy after saying this(probably because I am) but I am going with my heart on this series.

      Everyone has or will be writing us off in this series, and probably with good cause.

      The Bulls are playing great basketball of late, but this is Indiana basketball. We have been playing with confidence and the will to win in the month of April.

      I think that we still one of the first 2 games @ Chicago, and we close out the series in Indy for game 6.

      Like I said, I am crazy for saying this because I know it probably won't happen, but someone has to believe in this team pulling the upset.

      #8 Denver over #1 Sonics in 1994
      #8 Knicks over #1 Miami in 1999
      #8 Warriors over Mavs in 2007
      #8 Pacers over Bulls in 2011

      With all that being said, GO PACERS!!!!
      +1
      "Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

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      • #4
        Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

        Yep, you're crazy. But I like the enthusiasm.
        "Freedom is nothing else but a chance to be better." - Albert Camus

        "Appreciation is a wonderful thing. It makes what is excellent in others belong to us as well." - Voltaire

        "Everyone's values are defined by what they will tolerate when it is done to others." - William Greider

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        • #5
          Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

          All we have to do is stop that Rose guy.

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            Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

            Originally posted by presto123 View Post
            All we have to do is stop that Rose guy.
            I don't know if it can be done, but the most effective way is to limit others and let the series be "Derrick Rose vs the Indiana Pacers." Our victory against them was because of this, and if everybody can contribute plus stop other Bulls from helping Rose offensively, that will be the best chance to eliminate them.

            I think the most effective ways to limit Rose are:
            - Have DC tire Rose off offensively. Rose, although big for a PG, is not that good in defense. If DC can use his quickness and efficiency from midrange, it will certainly tire off Rose guarding him, or may even have foul problems along the way.

            - Good perimeter defense against him using physicality. DJones can be the one. Rush and George can also help using their length. It can also tire out Rose if a physical defense is pressuring him on the perimeter.

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              Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

              Originally posted by 15th parallel View Post
              I don't know if it can be done, but the most effective way is to limit others and let the series be "Derrick Rose vs the Indiana Pacers." Our victory against them was because of this, and if everybody can contribute plus stop other Bulls from helping Rose offensively, that will be the best chance to eliminate them.

              I think the most effective ways to limit Rose are:
              - Have DC tire Rose off offensively. Rose, although big for a PG, is not that good in defense. If DC can use his quickness and efficiency from midrange, it will certainly tire off Rose guarding him, or may even have foul problems along the way.

              - Good perimeter defense against him using physicality. DJones can be the one. Rush and George can also help using their length. It can also tire out Rose if a physical defense is pressuring him on the perimeter.
              Agree with this entire post.

              We must force Derrick Rose to win this series all by himself. No monster games from Boozer, No lights out performances from Deng we damn sure better not get out hustled by guys like Brewer, Bogans an CJ Watson. Also we most certainly have to keep them in check on the boards.

              Seems like a tall order but thats what they get paid to do.

              Pacers in 7. If we lose the series, I want Rose to be so tired and banged up that the Bulls have no shot in the second round.

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              • #8
                Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

                We can't just focus on stopping rose. We have mismatches in the post zone as well, how are we supposed to stop boozer?
                Originally posted by Piston Prince
                Bobcat fans telling us to cheer up = epic fail season
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                  Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

                  The only games we will when are the ones where we get their bigs in foul trouble. Given that we have Tyler, maybe we could do this a couple of times.
                  PG24: "Don't tell me the sky is the limit when there are footprints on the moon!"

                  RT @Hoya2aPacer "When I play this game I love. I play to make my teammates better. But I'm a mouther****er on defense."

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                    Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

                    Originally posted by yoadknux View Post
                    We can't just focus on stopping rose. We have mismatches in the post zone as well, how are we supposed to stop boozer?
                    Boozer is not that impossible to stop, plus he's not that good defensively, so if our bigs can get it going offensively against him, it can neutralize somewhat what he's doing on offense. A healthy dose of Tyler, Josh and Foster can be effective give Boozer different looks on defense.

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                      Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

                      Originally posted by KingGeorge View Post
                      Most of you will call me crazy after saying this(probably because I am) but I am going with my heart on this series.

                      Everyone has or will be writing us off in this series, and probably with good cause.

                      The Bulls are playing great basketball of late, but this is Indiana basketball. We have been playing with confidence and the will to win in the month of April.

                      I think that we steal one of the first 2 games @ Chicago, and we close out the series in Indy for game 6.

                      Like I said, I am crazy for saying this because I know it probably won't happen, but someone has to believe in this team pulling the upset.

                      #8 Denver over #1 Sonics in 1994
                      #8 Knicks over #1 Miami in 1999
                      #8 Warriors over Mavs in 2007
                      #8 Pacers over Bulls in 2011

                      With all that being said, GO PACERS!!!!

                      OK, fair enough, but what is the game plan. How do we control Rose and more importantly how do we find a way to constantly score against the Bulls great defense. If we dont do either of those to a certain degree, we aren't winning

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                      • #12
                        Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

                        I'll tell you one thing we'll have to do to have any chance to win any game...CONTROL THE BOARDS. If we succeed in getting stops, we can't let them get myriad extra possessions by failing to secure our defensive glass. Bulls inside guys are long and athletic. Have to shut that off.

                        Conversely, we need to shoot reasonably well and get to the foul line some. We'll need our bench to seriously outplay theirs and, obviously we'll have to consistently outhustle them.

                        I agree with the premise to try to make Rose work in multiple ways while attempting to lock up others and make it have to the the D-Rose show. However, I'm not sure that's exactly easy to do against guys like Boozer and Deng. But, yes, that's probably how it would have to work.

                        Realistically, I'm thrilled with two wins...content with one if we compete in some of the games. Anything more than either of those two is gravy in my boodk.
                        I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.

                        -Emiliano Zapata

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                        • #13
                          Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

                          Originally posted by 15th parallel View Post
                          Boozer is not that impossible to stop, plus he's not that good defensively, so if our bigs can get it going offensively against him, it can neutralize somewhat what he's doing on offense. A healthy dose of Tyler, Josh and Foster can be effective give Boozer different looks on defense.
                          boozer has trouble defending length. pacers are short of those at the 4. tyler is too short, josh is too weak. jeff can defend boozer, but cannot score at all. one of the things that will come out of this series is the pacer's need for a PF.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

                            We need to run and not let the Bulls set up. I know this scares all of you with chucking 3s, but I really think that is the only way we steal one at Chicago.

                            Getting this to game 6 would be a HUGE success. 2-2 going into Chicago would be ideal, but unlikely.

                            We most be great from the field and on the boards. We must closeout out to make them have an extra pass after Rose penetrates.

                            Keeping it close and limiting their runs can be done. Pressure 3/4 court and deny the wing pass (something Danny cannot do consistently). Push them to attack from the wings to baseline, instead of right down the lane.

                            All these things need to be down, but we have yet to do them consistently and on a level to compete.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Pacers/Bulls Playoff Series news/thoughts thread

                              Originally posted by LA_Confidential View Post
                              If we lose the series, I want Rose to be so tired and banged up that the Bulls have no shot in the second round.
                              If and when we lose this series (I'm guessing in 6), I'm rooting for the Bulls to win it all. So no, I wish nothing like this upon Rose as he may be my only chance to not see LeQueen, P.Piece, KG, Kobe, or Duncan win the championship. Otherwise it's a wrap.

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