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Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

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  • #1471
    Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2...ory?id=5064967

    LEXINGTON, Ky. -- John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins delivered on their promise to help coach John Calipari return Kentucky to national prominence.

    Next stop, the NBA.


    Ford: Who's In, Who's Out?
    It's the time of year when players begin to declare their intentions for the NBA draft. Insider Chad Ford discusses who is in and who is out. Story

    The freshman All-Americans are among five Kentucky players who declared for the NBA draft on Wednesday, an exodus that includes freshman guard Eric Bledsoe, freshman center Daniel Orton and junior forward Patrick Patterson.

    Wall and Cousins are expected to be among the first few players selected after leading the Wildcats to a remarkable turnaround season in Calipari's first year on the job.

    Kentucky went 35-3 this season -- Calipari's first as Wildcats coach -- winning the Southeastern Conference regular season and conference tournament titles before falling to West Virginia in the regional finals of the NCAA Tournament.

    Calipari met with each player individually and encouraged them to gauge their draft prospects.

    "It's extremely unusual for four freshmen from the same team to have this opportunity, but it's my job as a coach to prepare these young men for such opportunities," Calipari said.

    Players have until May 8 to change their minds, as long as they don't hire agents. It's highly unlikely any of the five players will come back for another season with the Wildcats.

    Certainly not Wall, who was the SEC player of the year after averaging 16.6 points, 6.5 assists and 4.3 rebounds while becoming a highlight-reel staple for his breathtaking play in the open floor.

    "I'm not the same player as when I arrived at UK," Wall said in a statement. "I believe I'm ready for the next challenge as Derrick Rose and Tyreke Evans were the last two years under Coach Cal."

    Calipari said early in the season that Wall was more evolved as a freshman than either Rose and Evans -- both of whom starred as point guards for Calipari at Memphis before heading to the NBA.

    Wall is a good bet to be the first pick in the draft, the way Rose in 2008.

    The 6-foot-4 Wall then spent the next five months largely living up to the hype. He hit a jumper at the buzzer to lift Kentucky to victory over Miami (Ohio) in his first regular season game but did his best to share the spotlight. His 241 assists set a Kentucky single-season record.

    Many of those assists came courtesy of baskets by Cousins, the SEC freshman of the year who will likely join Wall as one of the first players drafted. The 6-11, 270-pound center averaged 15.1 points and 9.8 rebounds, numbers that could have been significantly higher if he hadn't struggled with foul trouble and his temper early in the season that severely limited his playing time.

    When he was on the floor, Cousins was often the team's most dominant player and once he learned to control his emotions, he became borderline unstoppable.

    "Coach challenged me to grow on and off the court this season," Cousins said. "I believe my game expanded along with my maturity. This year was the most fun I've ever had playing basketball."

    It certainly looked like it while the player nicknamed "Boogie" helped Kentucky return to its place among the national elite. The Wildcats won their first 20 games and briefly rose to No. 1 in the polls.

    It's a rise that seemed hard for Patterson to fathom during his first two years with the team as the program slumped under former coach Billy Gillispie.

    Patterson could have gone to the NBA last spring but opted to stick around to expand his game in Calipari's "dribble-drive" offense while also finishing his degree. He averaged a career-low 14.3 points but became a better shooter and fit in with his less-experienced teammates.

    If the departure of Wall, Patterson and Cousins was expected, Bledsoe's and Orton's decision to join their teammates in the draft came as a bit of a surprise.

    Bledsoe averaged 11.3 points and proved to be just as fast as Wall in the open floor and an even better long-range shooter. Bledsoe's 49 3-pointers were second on the team and he made eight 3-pointers in a romp over East Tennessee State in the opening round of the NCAAs.

    "I never thought I'd be in this position after one year," Bledsoe said. "Coach Cal pushed us all to be the best we could be and he believes I'm prepared to take my game to the next level."
    Orton, thought to be a project when he came in, instead became the team's best defender while filling in for Cousins. He averaged a modest 3.4 points and 3.3 rebounds per but also finished among the leaders in the SEC in blocks (53). Orton said going against Patterson and Cousins in practice each day helped him believe he could make it in the NBA.

    If they all leave, it leaves Calipari with a rebuilding project on par with the one he inherited a year ago. The departure of Wall and company combined with the graduation of Ramon Harris, Perry Stevenson and Mark Krebs leaves Kentucky with just five players returning next year, only three of whom -- guards DeAndre Liggins and Darnell Dodson and forward Darius Miller -- played significant minutes this season.

    Calipari will try to replace them with another highly ranked recruiting class, though one that will find it difficult to duplicate the magic Wall and company brought to Rupp Arena.

    The Wildcats already have commitments from center Enes Kanter and Stacey Poole and are considered to be in the mix for a handful of elite recruits, including guard Brandon Knight.
    Last edited by vnzla81; 04-07-2010, 09:33 PM.
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    • #1472
      Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

      Patterson could have gone to the NBA last spring but opted to stick around to expand his game in Calipari's "dribble-drive" offense while also finishing his degree.
      I am a sucker for stuff like this because it shows maturity. I didn't realize he was going to be able to finish out a degree by staying.


      There are going to be some guys left out in the cold in the rush to get into the NBA ahead of the lockout. I think some guys are really going to hurt themselves in the long run.

      Henry won't be one that's really hurt, but I do think if he stayed one more year he'd really improve his draft position. He had all of about 5 good games and the rest was a spotty mess, but he's ready to go to the next level?

      Don't even get me started on Orton.


      Bradley is smart to not hire an agent. He's facing about 20th, maybe worse. Stay a year and be the man at Texas and that changes by 10-12 spots. Not a small bit of cash.

      I would be very happy if Lawal was around when we picked at ~40. That would be a great value on a tremendous player. He is fundamentally very sound and is very smart. Great in the pick and roll. Has a solid offensive back-to-the-basket arsenal. He is a savvy and tough rebounder, but probably will deal with being a touch shorter than other PFs in the NBA. He would be a good addition at that value.
      Lawal is a slightly better version of Arthur IMO. I like him around 20-23, so at 40 I shove old ladies to the ground in order to draft him.

      He won't be though. Ndiaye will, and he's a steal there. He'll do everything Whiteside does, but with more bulk and power behind his rebounds and defense. That way you can spend the 10th pick on something much better.

      Right now I'm 100% in the Udoh, maybe Bledsoe camp with the first pick, though I do still like Patterson. Then with the 2nd pick I'm not sure. Right now I'd hope to have Robinson fall, but he's going to go to camps and remind everyone of his insane in-game vertical and climb right back up the charts.

      So I think Vasquez is the most likely high quality available guy to slip to the Pacers there, saving Ndiaye for even later.

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      • #1473
        Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

        Originally posted by cordobes View Post
        Motiejunas is probably out of the draft, can't negotiate a buy-out. Btw, that 32-point, 20-rebound game Ford mentions was versus a team that has yet to win a single game in the league. The final result of that game was 169-29. That isn't a legitimate pro-team, they're a bunch of young kids who should be playing the U-20 tournament. Complicated story.

        Jan Vesely is a heck of a player. Partizan made the F4, which is an amazing accomplishment for a team like them - and that may facilitate his life in terms of getting a buyout agreed pre-draft. I wouldnt' call Vesely a big man; he's a very long swingman that can develop into the ideal "small-ball" PF. Kirilenko type of player. But right now he's a wing.
        If we throw in Gallinari too, is Vesely more like AK47 or Gallinari? I add him because he's also very long bordering on a small PF, similar build to AK47 but all offense with little defense.

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        • #1474
          Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

          Originally posted by CableKC View Post
          I've been reading about Vasquez and like his size and passing skills. What do you think of a Vasquez/AJ lineup as our future PG rotation ( specifically after the start of the 2011-2012 season )?

          Given his size, lateral quickness and speed......does Vasquez appear to be more of a SG ( but not a true PG ) that has enough Court Vision and knack for passing that he can get by on the NBA level?

          Also...I've asked this before...but how does he compare to Steve Blake ( another Maryland product that's a PG that's a solid passing PG that can shoot but doesn't have the strength and speed to provide solid defense against other more stronger PGs )?
          Blake is a more basic player, he keeps the degree of difficulty down. This is why Vasquez compares more to Jax. He throws a lot of interesting or aggressive passes, is somewhat slow footed yet still effective, plays tall for a PG.

          Blake is a more classic 80s PG to me, before guys grew up trying to be Magic, or worse the era after that when guys grew up trying to be Iverson.

          Blake is a guy you use if you have lots of other guys to start the offense with. Vasquez is more a guy that stirs the drink.



          BTW, it took me awhile to get to see some of his games as you might know from following the thread. That's why I'm "jumping on his wagon". I finally started seeing some footage, and not just this stuff from the last few weeks, and I had to admit he had some really nice stuff to go behind his stats.

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          • #1475
            Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

            I agree with you SETH right now my 1st option is bledsoe with the 1st pick and Varnado with the second pick, in the case that we get Udoh with the 1st I would take Vasquez with the second pick and Nyide with the other one.
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            • #1476
              Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

              Originally posted by Naptown_Seth View Post
              Blake is a more basic player, he keeps the degree of difficulty down. This is why Vasquez compares more to Jax. He throws a lot of interesting or aggressive passes, is somewhat slow footed yet still effective, plays tall for a PG.

              Blake is a more classic 80s PG to me, before guys grew up trying to be Magic, or worse the era after that when guys grew up trying to be Iverson.

              Blake is a guy you use if you have lots of other guys to start the offense with. Vasquez is more a guy that stirs the drink.



              BTW, it took me awhile to get to see some of his games as you might know from following the thread. That's why I'm "jumping on his wagon". I finally started seeing some footage, and not just this stuff from the last few weeks, and I had to admit he had some really nice stuff to go behind his stats.
              Is nice to see you drinking the Greivis Vasquez Koolaid
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              • #1477
                Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                Yeah, **** it, draft Bledsoe. Why not?

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                • #1478
                  Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                  Originally posted by Naptown_Seth View Post
                  If we throw in Gallinari too, is Vesely more like AK47 or Gallinari? I add him because he's also very long bordering on a small PF, similar build to AK47 but all offense with little defense.
                  Way more like AK47. The only thing in which is closer to Gallinari is an already passable 3pt shot, probably better than Kirilenko's (although not as good as Gallinari's, of course).

                  Vesely is a defensive specialist, extremely athletic, very bumpy, who makes a living of cutting to the basket and taking spot-up open jumpers. The biggest assets he brings right now is his activity level + size + quickness. I think he can be one of those elite role-players like Battier or Varejão, but not a big offensive option - even though he's been showing some development lately, but very sparsely. That's what separates him from Kirilenko, who can score +15 ppg with ease. Gallinari is a scorer/shooter/playmaker; Vesely is a absolutely not that kind of player. A bit tough to assess his talent level offensively because he's a role-player for his current team, they're a very disciplined squad and he plays within his role.

                  Maybe a taller Corey Brewer is the best comparison for him right now.

                  ps - I was looking for some videos from Vesely that could show a bit of his game and it's pretty telling that his Euroleague 5 best plays video is composed of... 5 dunks (the 2nd one where he brings the ball upcourt is probably the nicest):



                  Pretty much every youtube of him is some sort of dunk:
                  Last edited by cordobes; 04-08-2010, 12:19 AM.

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                  • #1479
                    Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                    Originally posted by cdash View Post
                    Yeah, **** it, draft Bledsoe. Why not?
                    Why all the Bledsoe love? Also why all the Patterson love?

                    Bledsoe in his last two games (when the pressure is on) was 5-14 fg, 0-7 3p, 9-16 ft, and 5 assist... When you should be playing your best he was definatly at his worse. He had a couple good games EARLY in the tournament and everyone starts thinking he is the next best thing. The first couple games were against teams that I could have put up decent numbers against. He has a LONG way to go to make it in the NBA. He is nothing special because I watched a lot of UK games this year and when Wall went out and Bledsoe was at the point, the team struggled.

                    Patterson is another that I can't understand why all the love is for him. His stat line through the whole tournament was 17-35 fg (48%), 43 points (10.3 ppg), and 34 reb (8.5rpg). That is hardly enough to say he was impressive. He is an undersized PF that has a low release on his shot. He is about 1-2 inches shorter than Hansbrough and we all saw what happened to his shot a lot of the time. I just think he will duplicate what we already have in Hansbrough.

                    I am hoping that someone takes a chance on one or both of these guys. Then someone else falls to us or we at least have to pick someone else. Neither of these two guys will pan out or are a duplicate of what we already have.

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                    • #1480
                      Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                      Originally posted by PacerFreak31 View Post
                      Why all the Bledsoe love? Also why all the Patterson love?

                      Bledsoe in his last two games (when the pressure is on) was 5-14 fg, 0-7 3p, 9-16 ft, and 5 assist... When you should be playing your best he was definatly at his worse. He had a couple good games EARLY in the tournament and everyone starts thinking he is the next best thing. The first couple games were against teams that I could have put up decent numbers against. He has a LONG way to go to make it in the NBA. He is nothing special because I watched a lot of UK games this year and when Wall went out and Bledsoe was at the point, the team struggled.

                      Patterson is another that I can't understand why all the love is for him. His stat line through the whole tournament was 17-35 fg (48%), 43 points (10.3 ppg), and 34 reb (8.5rpg). That is hardly enough to say he was impressive. He is an undersized PF that has a low release on his shot. He is about 1-2 inches shorter than Hansbrough and we all saw what happened to his shot a lot of the time. I just think he will duplicate what we already have in Hansbrough.

                      I am hoping that someone takes a chance on one or both of these guys. Then someone else falls to us or we at least have to pick someone else. Neither of these two guys will pan out or are a duplicate of what we already have.
                      Who do you want at 10? The options are very craptastic if you ask me. I think I'm just bitter though.

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                      • #1481
                        Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                        Originally posted by cdash View Post
                        Who do you want at 10? The options are very craptastic if you ask me. I think I'm just bitter though.
                        I am kind of hoping for Monroe if he declares for the draft. Georgetown has a habit of sending nice big men to the NBA.

                        Whiteside wouldn't be bad here either. A LOT would depend on two things that I hear might not be his strong suit. That is basketball IQ and Effort to get better. If management interviewed him a few times and found out that he has a good IQ and Work ethic then no one could touch his potential outside of the top 5.

                        Outside of those two I am not sure. A lot will depend on workouts. The thing that kills me about everything right now is that last year Bird knew it was a PG heavy draft yet he takes a PF. This year it is a PF heavy draft so I kind of expect him to take a pg. I think our need though is at PF because once Troy is gone we don't have a starting caliber PF waiting in the wings. No Hansbrough is not a starting caliber PF.

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                        • #1482
                          Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                          Originally posted by vnzla81 View Post

                          I agree with you SETH right now my 1st option is bledsoe with the 1st pick and Varnado with the second pick, in the case that we get Udoh with the 1st I would take Vasquez with the second pick and Nyide with the other one.

                          Vasquez will never be available at #40. If the Pacers want him, Bird had better figure a way to get a 1st in the 25-27 range. Once workouts start my opinion is his stock will rise into the late 1st.

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                          • #1483
                            Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                            I'll ask a questoin posed awhile back in another thread again. Given
                            his limited lateral quickness/agility, is Vasquez gonna be able to
                            defend opposing PG's in the NBA ?

                            I sure don't see it.

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                            • #1484
                              Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                              Do we own the Mavs second round pick this year or the next?
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                              • #1485
                                Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                                Vesely reminds me of Bobby Jones from the Erving 76er days.
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