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  • #1456
    Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

    http://www.nbadraft.net/2010earlyentry



    Key Dates:

    April 7-10 - Portsmouth Invitational Tournament (Portsmouth, VA)
    April 25 - NBA Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 p.m. ET)
    April 29 - NBA Teams can conduct or attend workouts with Early Entrants
    May 8 - NCAA Early Entrant Withdrawal Deadline
    May 18 - 2010 NBA Draft Lottery (Madison Square Garden, NYC)May 19-23 - NBA Draft Combine (Chicago, IL)
    June 5-7 - adidas Eurocamp (Treviso, IT)
    June 14 - NBA Draft Early Entrant (International players) Withdrawal Deadline (5:00 p.m. ET)
    June 24 - NBA Draft (Madison Square Garden, NYC)

    Officially Entered:


    Player Projection
    Al Farouq Aminu 6-8 218 SF Wake Forest So. Mid-late lottery pick. (6-14) [link]
    James Anderson 6-6 195 SG Okla.St. Jr. Mid-late first round. (12-25) [link]
    Cole Aldrich 6-11 260 C Kansas Jr. Mid-late lottery pick. (10-22) [link]
    Craig Brackins 6-9 230 PF Iowa St. Jr. Late first to mid-second round.(22-50) [link]
    Derrick Caracter 6-8 275 PF UTEP Jr. Second round to undrafted (45-Undrafted) [link]
    Malcolm Delaney 6-4 175 SG Virginia Tech Jr. Likely undrafted (50-U) [link]
    Charles Garcia 6-10 225 SF/PF Seattle Jr. Second round to undrafted (45-Undrafted) [link]
    Kenneth Faried 6-8 240 PF Morehead St. Jr. Second round to undrafted (45-Undrafted) [link]
    Paul George 6-7 190 SF Fresno St. So. Mid-late first round pick. (15-35) Confirmed with us.
    Manny Harris 6-5 190 SG Michigan Jr. Mid second to undrafted. (45-Undrafted) [link] *Has signed with an agent.
    Jeremy Hazell 6-5 185 SG Seton Hall Jr. Mid second to undrafted. (45-Undrafted) [link]
    Dominique Jones 6-4 190 SG Florida Int. Jr. Late first rounder. (18-32) [link]
    Sylvan Landesberg 6-6 195 SG Virginia So. Mid second to undrafted (45-undrafted). [link]
    Gani Lawal 6-9 233 PF G.Tech Jr. Late first rounder. (18-32) [link]
    Tommy Mason Griffin 5-11 200 PG Oklahoma Fr. Likely undrafted. (50-U) [link]
    Daniel Orton 6-10 240 PF Kentucky Fr. Mid-first to early second. (18-45) [link]
    Herb Pope 6-8 233 PF Seton Hall So. Second round to undrafted. (35-Undrafted) [link]
    Jeff Robinson 6-6 205 SF Seton Hall So. Likely undrafted. [link]
    Hassan Whiteside 7-0 235 C Marshall Fr. Lottery pick to first round. (6-25) [link]
    Jahmar Young 6-5 190 SG New Mexico St. Jr. Likely undrafted. [link]

    International

    Player Projection
    Andrew Albicy 5-9 160 PG France 1990 Likely Undrafted. [link]
    Antoine Diot 6-4 200 PG France 1989 Second round to undrafted. (45-Undrafted)
    Thomas Heurtel 6-1 180 PG France 1989 Second round to undrafted. (45-Undrafted)
    Edwin Jackson 6-3 190 SG France 1989 Second round to undrafted. (45-Undrafted)
    Saidou N’Joya 6-1 180 PG France 1989 Likely Undrafted.
    Fernando Raposo 6-10 260 PF/C Portugal 1989 Likely Undrafted.
    Kevin Seraphin 6-9 265 PF/C France 1989 Late first to early second round. (25-45)

    Expected to Enter:

    Player Projection (Range)
    Solomon Alabi 7-0 224 C Florida St. So. Late first to early second round pick. (22-40)
    Luke Babbitt 6-8 220 SF Nevada So. Mid-late first round pick. (13-27)
    [Player: Edwin Jackson] 6-4 190 SG Asvel (France) 1989 Mid second to undrafted. (45-Undrafted)
    Eric Bledsoe 6-1 185 PG Kentucky Fr. Mid-late first round pick. (12-32)
    Avery Bradley 6-3 180 SG Texas Fr. Mid first to early second round pick. (15-35)
    DeMarcus Cousins 6-11 280 PF/C Kentucky Fr. Top 5 pick. (3-7)
    Jordan Crawford 6-4 195 SG Xavier So. Late first round to early second round. (25-40)
    Derrick Favors 6-10 240 PF G'Tech Fr. Top 5 pick. (3-7)
    Jimmer Fredette 6-2 190 PG/SG BYU Jr. Late first to early second round pick. Likely will return. (25-40)
    Xavier Henry 6-6 220 SG Kansas Fr. Mid-late lottery pick. (8-18)
    Darrington Hobson 6-8 225 SF New Mexico Jr. Early to mid-second round. (35-Undrafted)
    Armon Johnson 6-3 190 PG Nevada Jr. Late first to early second round pick. (22-40)
    Wesley Johnson 6-7 200 SF Syracuse Jr. Top 5 pick. (3-7)
    Malcolm Lee 6-5 180 PG UCLA So. Mid second to undrafted. (40-Undrafted)
    Marshall Moses 6-7 240 PF Oklahoma St. Jr. Likely undrafted.
    Donatas Motiejunas 7-0 224 PF Lithuania 1990 Lottery pick. (3-12)
    Greg Monroe 6-10 234 PF G'town So. Top 10 pick, but has stated he intends to return. (6-12)
    Patrick Patterson 6-8 232 PF Kentucky Jr. Lottery Pick. (7-15)
    Fernando Raposo 6-9 220 SF Portugal 1989 Likely undrafted.
    Larry Sanders 6-10 220 PF VCU Jr. Mid-late first round pick. (12-32)
    Iman Shumpert 6-5 185 PG/SG G. Tech So. Second round to (likely) undrafted. (45-Undrafted)
    Trey Thompkins 6-9 245 PF Georgia So. Late first to early second round. (24-40)
    Evan Turner 6-6 205 PG/SG Ohio St. Jr. Likely #2 overall pick. (1-3)
    Ekpe Udoh 6-10 235 PF Baylor Jr. Mid-late first round pick. (12-30)
    Jan Vesely 6-11 230 SF/PF Czech Republic 1990 Mid-late first round pick. (12-32)
    John Wall 6-4 182 PG Kentucky Fr. Likely #1 overall pick. (1-2)
    Willie Warren 6-4 195 PG/SG Oklahoma So. Late first to (likely) early second round. (20-Undrafted)
    Elliot Williams 6-4 180 SG Memphis So. Late first to (likely) early second round. (25-45)


    50/50 to Enter:


    Player Projection
    Pablo Aguilar 6-9 200 SF Spain 1989 Mid 2nd to undrafted. (45-Undrafted)
    Keith Benson 6-11 225 C Oakland Jr. Likely undrafted. (45-Undrafted)
    Ed Davis 6-9 225 PF North Carolina So. Potential lotto pick but injury puts draft stock in limbo. (8-20)
    LaceDarius Dunn 6-4 190 SG Baylor Jr. Late first to early second. (25-50)
    Devin Ebanks 6-7 203 SF WV So. Mid-late first round pick. (15-35)
    Gordon Hayward 6-8 220 SF Butler So. Has a shot at first round after leading Butler to Final Four (20-40)
    Jordan Hamilton 6-7 208 SG/SF Texas Fr. Likely second rounder. Expected to stay at Texas but could test. (30-Undrafted)
    Marcus Morris 6-9 220 PF Kansas So. Second round to undrafted. (40-Undrafted)
    Jamine Peterson 6-6 240 PF Providence So. Mid 2nd to undrafted. (45-Undrafted)
    Renardo Sidney 6-10 280 PF Mississippi St. Fr. Late first to (likely) second round. (22-Undrafted)
    Chris Singleton 6-9 225 SF/PF Florida St. Jr. Late first to (likely) second round. (28-Undrafted)
    Lance Stephenson 6-5 210 SG Cincinnati Fr. Late first to (likely) second round. (25-Undrafted)
    Durrell Summers 6-5 186 SG Michigan St. Jr. Second round. (35-Undrafted)
    Terrico White 6-5 190 PG/SG Mississippi So. Late first to second round. (25-40)

    Expected to Return:

    Player
    Lavoy Allen 6-9 230 PF Temple Jr.
    Gilbert Brown 6-6 200 SG Pittsburgh Jr.
    William Buford 6-5 185 SG Ohio St. So.
    Anatoly Bose 6-6 200 SG Nichols St. Jr.
    Alec Burks 6-6 185 SG Colorado Fr.
    Jon Diebler 6-5 180 SG Ohio St. Jr.
    Corey Fisher 6-2 180 PG Villanova Jr.
    Austin Freeman 6-4 225 SG G'town Jr.
    Jerai Grant 6-9 230 PF Clemson Jr.
    JaMychal Green 6-8 230 PF Alabama So.
    Elias Harris 6-8 220 SF Gonzaga Fr.
    John Henson 6-10 200 PF UNC Fr.
    Cory Higgins 6-4 180 PG/SG Colorado Jr.
    Scotty Hopson 6-6 185 SG Tennessee So.
    Justin Hurtt 6-4 195 SG Tulsa Jr.
    Rick Jackson 6-9 250 PF Syracuse Jr.
    JaJuan Johnson 6-10 205 SF/PF Purdue Jr.
    Kris Joseph 6-7 220 SF Syracuse So.
    Mac Koshwal 6-9 240 PF/C DePaul Jr.
    Travis Leslie 6-4 210 SG Georgia So.
    Jon Leuer 6-10 215 PF Wisconsin Jr.
    Kalin Lucas 6-1 170 PG Michigan St. Jr.
    Vernon Macklin 6-9 220 PF Florida Jr.
    DeMetry McCamey 6-3 210 PG Illinois Jr.
    Arnett Moultrie 6-10 225 PF UTEP So.
    AJ Ogilvy 6-10 250 C Vanderbilt Jr.
    Chandler Parsons 6-7 210 SF Florida Jr.
    Tibor Pleiss 7-1 210 PF Germany 1989
    Durand Scott 6-4 185 PG/SG Miami Fr.
    Kyle Singler 6-8 220 SF Duke Jr.
    Nolan Smith 6-3 180 PG/SG Duke Jr.
    Jeffrey Taylor 6-7 220 SF Vanderbilt So.
    Tyshawn Taylor 6-3 180 SG Kansas So.
    Kemba Walker 5-11 180 PG UConn So.
    Derrick Williams 6-8 225 SF/PF Arizona Fr.
    Rodney Williams 6-7 210 SG/SF Minnesota Fr.
    Chris Wright 6-1 190 PG St. G'Town Jr.
    @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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    • #1457
      Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

      Motiejunas is probably out of the draft, can't negotiate a buy-out. Btw, that 32-point, 20-rebound game Ford mentions was versus a team that has yet to win a single game in the league. The final result of that game was 169-29. That isn't a legitimate pro-team, they're a bunch of young kids who should be playing the U-20 tournament. Complicated story.

      Jan Vesely is a heck of a player. Partizan made the F4, which is an amazing accomplishment for a team like them - and that may facilitate his life in terms of getting a buyout agreed pre-draft. I wouldnt' call Vesely a big man; he's a very long swingman that can develop into the ideal "small-ball" PF. Kirilenko type of player. But right now he's a wing.

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      • #1458
        Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

        I had a vivid dream/premonition about Gani Lawal as a Pacer about a week ago while on vacation and before Lawal declared for the draft. The dream was unusually detailed and not charactistic of me in general. I also followed GA Tech very little this year, and frankly didn't know much about him. Maybe we trade back or pick up another first round pick, or perhaps I have simply been watching way too much hoops lately!

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        • #1459
          Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

          I would be very happy if Lawal was around when we picked at ~40. That would be a great value on a tremendous player. He is fundamentally very sound and is very smart. Great in the pick and roll. Has a solid offensive back-to-the-basket arsenal. He is a savvy and tough rebounder, but probably will deal with being a touch shorter than other PFs in the NBA. He would be a good addition at that value.
          "Your course, your path, is not going to be like mine," West says. "Everybody is not called to be a multimillionaire. Everybody's not called to be the president. Whatever your best work is, you do it. Do it well. … You cease your own greatness when you aspire to be someone else."

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          • #1460
            Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

            Just saw this and would check with the people who know whats going on. Lance Stepenson has declared for the draft.

            He's had a lot of hype around him for a long time. What does everyone think of his game?

            http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba...henson-to-nba/

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            • #1461
              Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

              Originally posted by IUfan4life View Post
              Just saw this and would check with the people who know whats going on. Lance Stepenson has declared for the draft.

              He's had a lot of hype around him for a long time. What does everyone think of his game?

              http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba...henson-to-nba/
              Apparently he's going to hire an agent. This despite shooting ~20% for 3PTers?

              Pass.

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              • #1462
                Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                Originally posted by Kraut N Beer View Post
                I had a vivid dream/premonition about Gani Lawal as a Pacer about a week ago while on vacation and before Lawal declared for the draft. The dream was unusually detailed and not charactistic of me in general. I also followed GA Tech very little this year, and frankly didn't know much about him. Maybe we trade back or pick up another first round pick, or perhaps I have simply been drinking way too much hops lately!
                Fixed.

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                • #1463
                  Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                  Originally posted by IUfan4life View Post
                  Just saw this and would check with the people who know whats going on. Lance Stepenson has declared for the draft.

                  He's had a lot of hype around him for a long time. What does everyone think of his game?

                  http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba...henson-to-nba/
                  i love lance
                  def would be a project, but huge huge upside and has the ability to take over a game
                  lets make it happen with our maybe 2nd 2nd round pick
                  Peck is basically omniscient when it comes to understanding how the minds of Herb Simon and Kevin Pritchard work. I was a fool to ever question him and now feel deep shame for not understanding that this team believes in continuity above talent.

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                  • #1464
                    Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                    btw, looks like jordan crawfords coming out too
                    interestinggg
                    Peck is basically omniscient when it comes to understanding how the minds of Herb Simon and Kevin Pritchard work. I was a fool to ever question him and now feel deep shame for not understanding that this team believes in continuity above talent.

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                    • #1465
                      Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                      Originally posted by iPACER View Post
                      Thought he has the size, length, quickness and toughness to be a defenisve-oriented SF that can hit the open 3 ala Bruce Bowen and would be a good pick up in the 2nd round.
                      I've seen 25+ Avery Jukes games in person including this year's Final Four. He played the best game of his life in the National Championship. You thought wrong.
                      "I had to take her down like Chris Brown."

                      -Lance Stephenson

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                      • #1466
                        Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                        Jordan Crawford is an interesting prospect. He is 6'4" and a primary ball handler even though he was playing SG most of his time in college. He is not much of a SG prospect at the next level because his shooting is not great. He is a lot like Gibert Arenas. They are effective players getting into the lane and scoring, but are very one-dimensional players. He seems like a decent passer but he almost refuses to do so. He has the talent IMO to be a PG in the NBA, but I don't know if he will work enough to translate the skills necessary to run an offense in the NBA. I think he is a great guy to take a chance on in the second round, especially without many PG prospects. I will be interested to see what NBA GM's think about his prospects at the next level. He has the skills and athleticism to be a player in the NBA, its more a matter of him adapting... will he remain a black hole on offense and will he work hard enough on defense to earn playing time? I hate Xavier.

                        GO SPIDERS!!!
                        "Your course, your path, is not going to be like mine," West says. "Everybody is not called to be a multimillionaire. Everybody's not called to be the president. Whatever your best work is, you do it. Do it well. … You cease your own greatness when you aspire to be someone else."

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                        • #1467
                          Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                          Against Seth's wishes, looks like Xavier Henry is entering the draft. Texas' Avery Bradley is exploring without hiring an agent. Also mentions Lance.

                          http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/a...ence-set-3-pm/

                          Kansas University freshman Xavier Henry declared for the NBA Draft during an emotional press conference Wednesday afternoon.

                          "I didn't know I'd love it this much at KU, coming here to play," Henry said while sniffling and wiping away tears.

                          Henry said he is currently in the interviewing process to hire an agent.

                          Henry was KU's second-leading scorer last season, averaging 13.4 points and 4.4 rebounds per game.

                          "This is not a sad day for us, because we anticipated this could probably happen," KU coach Bill Self said. "We prepared for this."

                          When asked, Xavier's brother, C.J., declined to talk about his future plans at KU.

                          On Tuesday, Foxsports.com reported that Texas freshman Avery Bradley would test the NBA waters without signing with an agent. On Wednesday morning, Cincinnati freshman Lance Stephenson also announced his intentions to turn pro.
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                            Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                            http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2...ory?id=5064218

                            Turner to enter NBA draft

                            Ohio State guard Evan Turner will pass up his senior season and enter the NBA draft, he announced at a news conference on Wednesday.

                            Turner, who was named The Associated Press player of the year, is expected to be among the top picks in this year's NBA draft. He led Ohio State (29-8) to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA tournament, as well as the Big Ten's regular-season and conference tournament championships.

                            Turner averaged 20.3 points, 9.2 rebounds and 5.9 assists per game in 2009-10.
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                              Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                              http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/t...-waters-040610

                              Texas freshman to test NBA waters

                              Texas freshman Avery Bradley will test the waters.

                              According to a source close to the situation, the 6-foot-2 guard will not sign with an agent.


                              Bradley averaged 11.6 points this past season for the Longhorns and established himself as one of the top defensive guards in the country.

                              However, there are questions about Bradley at the next level and whether he can play the point guard spot or will have to be an undersized two-guard.

                              Some NBA executives have Bradley as high as a mid first-round pick while others have told FOXSports.com he could slip out of the first round altogether.
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                                Re: Official 2010 NBA Draft Recruiting Center

                                Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski saying Turner likely to sign with David Falk.

                                Ohio State's Evan Turner is expected to sign with agent David Falk, sources tell Y! Sports.

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                                Other agents are still being promised 'meetings' with Ohio State's Evan Turner, but sources insist he will ultimately sign with David Falk.

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