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Re: Today in Pacer History
Hey Jose, can you refresh my memory on what that number at the end means. Thanks.
Hey Jose, can you refresh my memory on what that number at the end means. Thanks.
The Rules of Pacers Digest
Hello everyone,
Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.
A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.
Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.
Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.
Rule #1
Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:
"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"
"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"
"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"
"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"
"He/she is just delusional"
"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"
"I'm going to take a moment to point and
/ laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"
"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good?"
In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.
We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.
Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.
That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.
A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.
There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.
Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.
In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.
Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.
If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!
All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.
Rule #2
If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.
The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.
The right places to do so are:
A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.
B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.
If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.
Rule #3
If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.
When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:
A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.
B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.
To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!
Rule #4
Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.
Rule #5
When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.
An example:
If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star
Rule #6
We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.
The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.
Rule #7
Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.
It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).
We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).
However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.
Rule #8
We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.
Rule #9
Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.
Rule #10
We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.
Rule #11
Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.
A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.
Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.
Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.
Rule #1
Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:
"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"
"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"
"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"
"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"
"He/she is just delusional"
"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"
"I'm going to take a moment to point and
/ laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*""Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good?
"In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.
We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.
Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.
That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.
A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.
There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.
Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.
In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.
Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.
If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!
All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.
Rule #2
If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.
The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.
The right places to do so are:
A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.
B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.
If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.
Rule #3
If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.
When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:
A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.
B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.
To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!
Rule #4
Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.
Rule #5
When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.
An example:
If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star
Rule #6
We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.
The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.
Rule #7
Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.
It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).
We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).
However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.
Rule #8
We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.
Rule #9
Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.
Rule #10
We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.
Rule #11
Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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Re: Today in Pacer History
When I log in to prepare the days update I note how many views the thread has had from one day to the next.
Just me gauging how many are checking out the thread.Comment
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Re: Today in Pacer History
Today is April 7th, on this date in Pacer history......
The Pacers are 9-7 in games played on this date.
Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------57-63
Year to date -- 960-917
Playoff Update
On this date in 1971: The Pacers took game 4 & swept the Western Semi's with a 102-101 overtime win at Memphis.
On this date in 1973: The Pacers win game 5 & the Western Semi's series with a 121-107 home victory over Denver.
On this date in 1975: Indiana wins game 2 of the Western Semi's in San Antonio, 98-93.
These 3 wins bring the Pacers playoff record to 15-12.
Happy Birthday
Bo Lamar 1951
On April 24th, 1973 the Detroit Pistons selected Lamar with their 3rd round pick in the 73 NBA draft. The following day the San Diego Conquistadors took him in round 1 of the ABA, senior draft.
The 6-1, 180 lb Lamar decided to take the San Diego offer & played all of the 73-74 & 74-75 seasons in San Diego.
Six games into the 75-76 season, on November 11th, San Diego folded & the 3 time All American from Southwest Louisiana was taken by the Pacers in the dispersal draft.
Lamar played 35 games for the Pacers in the 75-76 season averaging 15.6 points, 2.8 boards, 3.9 assist, 1 steal in 25.9 minutes a game.
Lamar signed with the Los Angeles Lakers on October 21st, 1976 & played his one & only season in the NBA.
Anthony Frederick 1964
The 6-7, 205 lb. Frederick played at Pepperdine & was drafted by Denver in the 6th round of the 1986 NBA draft. He was signed by the Pacers as a free agent on August 1st, 1988.
During the 88-89 season, his only season with the Pacers, he played in 46 games averaging 3.3 points & 1.1 rebounds in 6.8 minutes a game.
Frederick signed with Sacramento on January 14th, 1991 & finsihed the 90-91 season with the Kings.
On October 1st of 91 he signed with the Charlotte Hornets, playing for his 3rd & final team in the NBA.
Sadly, on May 29th, 2003 Frederick passed away from an apparent heart attack.
Records
On this date in 1973: The Pacers set a franchise playoff assist record with 35 in a 121-107 home defeat of Denver.
That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!Comment
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Re: Today in Pacer History
Today is April 8th, on this date in Pacer history......
The Pacers are 9-7 in games played on this date.
Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------ 66-70
Year to date -- 969-924
Playoff Update
On this date in 1969: The Pacers lost game 1 at home in the Eastern Semi's to Kentucky, 128-118.
On this date in 1972: The Pacers took a 3-2 series lead with a game 5 home win over Denver in the Western Semi's, 91-79.
On this date in 1976: The Pacers lost game 1 of a best of 3 first round matchup in Kentucky, 120-109.
After going 1-2 on this date the Pacers playoff record now stands 16-14.
That's it for today, see ya tomorrow!Comment
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Re: Today in Pacer History
Today is April 9th, on this date in Pacer history......
The Pacers are 6-6 in games played on this date.
Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------ 72-76
Year to date -- 975-930
Playoff Update
On this date in 1969: The Pacers won game 3 of the Eastern Semi's at home, over Kentucky 120-115.
On this date in 1972: The Pacers dropped game 6 of the Western Semi's in Denver, 106-99.
With a win & a loss the Pacers playoff record moves to 17-15.
Happy Birthday
Kyle Macy 1957
After playing at Purdue his freahman year, Macy transfered to Kentucky. He was forced to set for a season then joined the Wilcats starting in 1977. While at Kentucky, Macy was named All American & All SEC three straight years. Macy's Wildcats won the 1978 NCAA Championship over Duke 94-88.
On June 22nd, 1979 Washington traded their 1979 first round draft pick & a 1980 3rd rounder to Phoenix for Steve Malovic. Macy was taken by the Suns just 9 days later on June 30th with the 22nd pick in round 1. John Campbell was the player taken in 1980 with the third round pick.
Macy returned to Kentucky to finish out his college eligibility before joining the Suns for the 80-81 season. After five seasons with Phoenix Macy signed with Chicago on October 4th, 1980. The Suns waived the right of first refusal in exchange for a couple of 2nd round picks. A 1986 2nd (#39-Rafael Addison) & a 1990 2nd (#50-Milos Babic).
He played just a single season for the Bulls before being traded to the Pacers on September 18th of 86 for two 2nd round draft picks. A 1988 2nd (#37-Greg Butler) & either a 1990 or 1992 2nd.
The 6-3, 190 lb Macy played his final NBA season with the Pacers averaging 4.9 points, 1.5 boards, 2.6 assist, .8 steals, .8 turnovers in 16.4 minutes a game.
Macy played two more seasons in Europe before returning to the States to coach. At first Morehead State, then Lexington Christian Academy before taking the GM duties with the CBA's East Kentucky Miners.
Records
On this date in 1972: The Pacers set a club playoff record with 14 blocked shots in their 106-99 loss in Denver.
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Today is April 10th, on this date in Pacer history......
The Pacers are 5-12 in games played on this date. The Pacer put together 5 game losing streaks twice on this date. They lost 1 game in the ABA in 1970 then didn't play again on April 10th for another 12 years, losing 4 games between 82-85. Their second run of 5 losses was from 1991 to 2000.
Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------ 77-88
Year to date -- 980-942
Playoff Update
On this date in 1969: The Pacers played their 3rd games in as many nights & with a 130-111 road loss, drop to 1-3 in the Eastern Semi's against Kentucky.
On this date in 1974: The Pacers dropped game 6 on the road to San Antonio in the Western Semi's, 102-86.
On this date in 1975: The Pacers take a 3-0 series lead with a 113-103 overtime win at home over San Antonio in the Western Semi's.
On this date in 1976: The Pacers even the series 1-1 with a 109-95 home victory over Kentucky in the first round of the playoffs.
With two wins & two defeats the Pacers playoff record is now 19-17.
Records
On this date in 1975: In the 113-103 game 3 overtime win against San Antonio, Don Buse set a Pacer playoff record by playing 53 minutes.
Also from that game, George McGinnis set the franchise mark with 22 free throw attempts in a playoff game.
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Today is April 11th, on this date in Pacer history......
The Pacers are 7-8 in games played on this date.
Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ------------ 84-96
Year to date -- 987-950
Playoff Update
The Pacers have never played a playoff game on April 11th so their record remains 19-17.
Happy Birthday 1976
Tremaine Fowlkes
Oddly enough Fowlkes was the Pacers 1998 2nd rounder that was traded to Denver on February 20th, 1997 along with Vincent Askew, Eddie Johnson & a 1997 2nd (#41 Jason Lawson) for Mark Jackson & LaSalle Thompson.
The 6-8, 220 lb Fowlkes played at Fresno State and was the 2nd round pick of the Nuggets of the 1998 NBA draft on June 24th. He didn't sign with Denver until January 22nd of 99 but was waived without playing a game on February 1st.
Fowlkes was out of the league until February 23rd of 2002 when he was signed to a 10 day contract by the Clippers. He remained with LA for the rest of the 01-02 season & was brought back for 02-03 as well.
On October 22nd, 2003 the Clippers waived him & the Pistons signed him for the 03-04 season on October 28th. Fowlkes wears a Championship ring due to being a member of the Pistons during the title run in 03-04.
On September 28th of 04 the Hornets signed Fowlkes as a free agent but he was waived just prior to the start of the season on October 28th.
He next surfaced in an NBA uniform with the Pacers, signing on November 25th, 2004. Fowlkes appeared in just 8 games for Indiana scoring 19 points with 8 boards & 2 steals in 7 minutes a game. He was waived on December 13th, 2004 and has not played in an NBA since.
Transactions
On this date in 1977: The Pacers completed a trade that began on February 1st of 1977. The trade agreed upon was a Pacer 1977 #1 & a player to be named later to the New York Nets in exchange for John Williamson.
On February 1st the Nets got the draft pick that turned out to be a #7 pick in the 77 draft that the Nets used to take Bernard King.
On April 11th of 77 the Pacers completed the transaction by sending the Nets the "player to be named later" to New York. That player turned out to be Darnell Hillman.
Yes, the Pacers traded Bernard King & Darnell Hillman for John Williamson!
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Today is April 12th, on this date in Pacer history......
The Pacers are 9-6 in games played on this date. After winning their first April 12th game the Pacers went on to lose 5 in a row between 1985 & 1991. Beginning in 1996 & ending in 2006, Indiana ran off eight straight wins.
Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ----------- 93-102
Year to date -- 996-956
Playoff Update
On this date in 1971: In game one of the Western Finals the Pacers lost the home opener to Utah, 120-118.
On this date in 1973: Also game one of the Western Finals, also against Utah, also a loss. This one was on the road, 124-107.
On this date in 1974: In game seven of the Western Semi's against San Antonio the Pacers win at home 86-79.
On this date in 1975: With the Pacers up 3-0, the Spurs wins game four of the Western Semi's in San Antonio, 110-109.
On this date in 1976: The Pacers lose game 3 to Kentucky, 100-99. Losing the best of three opening round of the playoffs 2-1.
Not a great date in Pacer playoff history, going 1-4 the Pacer playoff record drops to 20-21
Happy Birthday
Larry Cannon 1947
As with a lot of players from the ABA era, Cannon was drafted by teams in both the ABA and NBA. On April 7th, 1969 the Chicago Bulls drafted Cannon out of LaSalle 5th in round one of the NBA draft. Eight days later on April 15th the Miami Floridians took him in the ABA draft.
Following a season with Miami, Cannon & Don Sidle were traded to Denver for Larry Jones & Greg Wittman. Cannon played just one season in Denver as well, before signing with the Memphis Pro's on October 1st, 1971.
After playing in 26 games for Memphis, the 6-5, 195 lbs. Cannon was traded to the Pacers for of all people .... Don Sidle. Cannon appeared in 28 games during the 71-72 season & 3 more games the following year but there is no mention of him being waived or traded. During his playing time as a Pacer, Cannon averaged 6.2 points, 1.2 rebounds, 2.4 assist, 1.5 turnovers & 16.3 minutes per game.
On February 13th, 1974 the Bulls traded Cannon to the 76ers for an umknown draft pick. He played 19 games for Phily during the final part of the 73-74 season & was waived in October of 74, ending his ABA & NBA career.
Brad Miller 1976
The 7-0, 261 lbs. Miller wasn't drafted when he came out of Purdue. He was signed by the Charlotte Hornets as a free agent on January 21st, 1999. That was the strike shortened season when games didn't start until early February.
After two seasons in Charlotte, Miller signed with the Chicago Bulls on September 7th, 2000. He played with Chicago until being delt to the Pacers along with Ron Mercer, Ron Artest & Kevin Ollie for Jalen Rose, Travis Best, Norm Richardson & a 2002 2nd round draft pick (#43 Lonny Baxter) on February 19th, 2002.
In his season & a half as a Pacer, Miller averaged 13.7 points on .514 field goal percentage, 8.1 boards, 2.4 assist, 1.6 turnover & 31.1 minutes a game.
Miller was traded to the Sacramento Kings as part of a three team deal on July 24th, 2003. The Pacers also shipped Ron Mercer to San Antonio & received Scot Pollard & Danny Ferry.
After 5 & a half seasons with the Kings, Miller & John Salmons were traded to the Bulls on February 18th of 09. The Kings got back Andres Nocioni, Drew Gooden, Cedric Simmons & Michael Ruffin in the deal.
Miller was named an All Star two years in a row. In 02-03 as a member of the Pacers & the following season, 03-04 while with the Kings.
Transactions
On this date in 1972: The Pacers took part in the second half of the 6th ABA draft that began on March 2nd.
These are the three players taken back on March 2nd.
These are the 3 players taken March 2nd.
1. Ed Ratleff -------- Long Beach State
2. Nate Stephens --- Long Beach State
3. Oscar Evans ------ Butler
These players were selected on April 12th.
4. George Adams - Gardner-Webb
5. Rich Garner - Manhattan
6. Cavin Anderson - Valley City
7. Wardell Tyson - Shaw
8. Jolly Spight - Santa Clara
9. Bill Burton - Eastern Kentucky
10. Wally Rice - Penn Military
11. Lee Sims - Morehead State
12. Nate Williams - Utah State
None of the drafted players ever made a Pacer roster but three did play pro ball.
#1 pick Ed Ratleff played five NBA seasons with Houston.
#4 pick George Adams was with San Diego of the ABA for three seasons.
#12 pick Nate Williams played eight NBA seasons with four different teams; Cincinnati, Omaha, New Orleans & Golden State.
Records
On this date in 1970: The Pacer set three franchise records in the same game.
Most FG attempts with 130
Most FG made with 73
Most Points in a game with 177
In a 177-135 home win over the Pittsburgh Pipers.
On this date in 2008: Just one year ago the Pacers set a club record for most 3 point FG attempts in a game with 39. Indiana was 13-39 from beyond the arc & lost the home game to Charlotte, 107-103.
On this date in 1975: George McGinnis set a Pacer playoff record by making 18 field goals in a 110-109 loss to the San Antonio Spurs. This record was matched twice by the same player, Billy Knight. The first was on April 22nd, 1975 in a 131-124 win at Denver. Then again just one month later in a 110-105 loss at Kentucky on May 22nd, 1975.
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Today is April 13th, on this date in Pacer history......
The Pacers are 8-8 in games played on this date.
Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ---------- 101-110
Year to date - 1004-964
Playoff Update
On this date in 1969: The Pacers fall to 1-3 with a 105-104 overtime loss at Kentucky in the Eastern Semi's.
On this date in 1974: The Pacers lose the opening game of the Western Finals in Utah, 105-96.
With these two defeats the Pacers playoff record now stands, 20-23.
Happy Birthday
Sedric Toney 1962
On October 1st, 1984 the Atlanta Hawks agreed not to exercise their right of first refusal on free agent Billy Paultz in exchange for a draft pick from the Utah Jazz. That pick was a 1985 3rd rounder used to take Sedric Toney out of Dayton.
Toney lasted just 3 games for the Hawks, they waived him on November 4th, 1985.
The Suns signed him on March 29th of 86, he finished out the season in Phoenix but was waived before the start of the 85-86 season.
He didn't get back into the league until October 7th, 1987 when he was signed by Denver. Once again he was waived before the start of the season, October 29th, 1987.
The Knicks signed him on March 13th, 1988 & he finished out the season in New York.
On June 23rd, 1988 the Charlotte Hornets chose Toney in their expansion draft but dropped him on October 17th of 88.
The 6-2, 178 lb. Toney signed a 10 day contract with the Pacers on February 2nd, 1989 & played a total of 9 minutes in 2 games as a Pacer. He went 1-5 from the field for his only two points, pulled down two boards & committed two turnovers. He was not re-signed when his 10 days were up.
September 29th, 1989 the Hawks sign Toney & he not only makes the roster but gets into their rotation. After appearing in 32 games, on February 10th, 1990, he's packaged with Antoine Carr & a 1991 2nd rounder (#42 Steve Hood) & delt to Sacramento for Kenny Smith & Mike Williams. He finishes out the season with the Kings but is waived on July 9th, 1990.
Toney was out of the league for 3 seasons before signing with Cleveland on November 9th, 1993. He played in 12 games for the Cavs that season, his last as a player in the NBA.
Toney currently works college games for ESPN.
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Today is April 14th, on this date in Pacer history......
The Pacers are 10-4 in games played on this date.
Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ---------- 111-114
Year to date - 1014-968
Playoff Update
On this date in 1969: With their backs to the wall the Pacers beat the Colonels at home, 116-97 to take game 5 of the Eastern Semi's & head back to Kentucky down 3-2 in the series.
On this date in 1971: The Pacers win at home in game 2 of the Westen Finals against Utah, 120-107. The series is now 1-1 & heading to Utah for the next 2 games.
On this date in 1972: The Pacers win at home in game 7 of the Western Semi's, beating Denver 91-89. Scheduling note: The Pacers start the Western Finals the very next day in Utah.
On this date in 1973: In the 2nd game in the Western Finals the Pacers even the series with a 116-110 win in Utah.
On this date in 1975: The Pacers drop game 5 of the Western Semi's in San Antonio, 123-117. The Pacers are up 3-2 & heading back to Indy for game 6.
The Pacers had a good day, playoff wise, going 4-1 in playoff games played on April 14th. That brings their playoff record to 24-24
Transactions
On this date in 1995: The Pacers sign Greg Kite for the remainder of the season. I looked it up, it was the last five games. He's already signed two, 10 day contracts so it was either sign him for the last five or let him walk.
Records
On this date in 1971: The Pacers set a club record for the most offensive rebounds in a playoff game with 35 in 120-107 home win against Utah.
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Staring Tuesday I'm having some work done on my hard drive, by an IT guy where the wife works. I'm not sure how long I'll be without it or how much of what I have saved will be available to me when I get it back.
I've copied the excel files & my list of web sites that I use for these post to my work computer. Between that & my wife's laptop I should be able to paste together something until we get mine de-bugged.
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I'd suggest going to a "This Week in Pacer History" format at some point during the offseason.
Is this thread going to be archived?BillS
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
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I have moire than enough info to keep it a daily. The only thing that will vanish is the W-L feature & the "records".
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Today is April 15th, on this date in Pacer history......
The Pacers are 8-5 in games played on this date.
Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ---------- 119-119
Year to date - 1022-973
Playoff Update
On this date in 1969: The Pacers win game game 6 of the Eastern Semi's 107-89 over Kentucky, forcing a game 7 in Indy.
On this date in 1972: In game 1 of the Western Finals, the Pacers loose to Utah on the road, 108-100.
On this date in 1974: The Pacers drop to 0-2 with a game 2 loss of the Western Finals to Utah, 106-102
The Pacers playoff record is now 25-26
Transactions
On this date in 1969: The ABA's 3rd draft took place. The Pacers selected the following players.
1. Bob Arnzen ------ Notre Dame
2. Dick Grubar ------ North Carolina
3. Toney Masiello --- Canisius
4. Willie McCarter --- Drake
5. Bill Deher -------- Indiana
6. Dave Golden ----- Duke
7. Bill Keller --------- Purdue
8. Gerald Mckee ----- Ohio
9. Ron Peret -------- Texas A & M
10. John Jamerson --- Fairmont State
11. Jim Stephenson -- Maine
#1 Bob Arnzen spent one season in the NBA & three in the ABA, including two with the Pacers.
#2 Dick Grubar only played two games in his career, both with Indiana.
#4 Willie McCarter had a three year NBA career.
#7 Bill Keller spent all of his seven seasons with the Pacers.
#8 Gerald McKee played just a single game in the ABA & that game was with Indiana.
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Today is April 16th, on this date in Pacer history......
The Pacers are 10-3 in games played on this date.
Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ---------- 129-122
Year to date - 1032-976
Playoff Update
On this date in 1973: The Pacers take a 2-1 lead in the Western Finals with a 118-108 win at home against Utah.
On this date in 1975: The Pacers win the Western Semi's 4-2 with a 115-100 home win over San Antonio.
With these two wins the Pacer playoff record bumps up to 27-26.
Happy Birthday
Dick Versace 1940
Following coaching at St. Joseph High School in Kenosha Wisconsin & Gordon Tech in Chicago, Versace moved to the college ranks as an assistant at St. Louis in 1972.
After a stint at Michigan State, Versace took his first college head coaching position at Jackson Community College in 1976. He then moved on to Bradley where he lead them to an NIT Championship in 1982.
Following his years as an assistant coach with the Detroit Pistons, Versace was named head coach of the Indiana Pacers on January 5th, 1989. This after Jack Ramsay walked away after an 0-7 start, Mel Daniels going 0-2 & George Irvine's final Pacers coaching run ending 6-14.
Versace finsihed the 88-89 season with a 22-31 record. In 89-90, his only full season as a Pacer coach, he went 42-40. After starting the 90-91 season 9-16, Versace was fired on December 20th, 1990.
He served as assistant coach in Milwaukee during the 97-98 season. While in Vancouver he served as President of Basketball Operations as well as General Manager.
Versace is the son of Puerto Rician author Marie Teresa Rios. One of her books was the basis for the 60's TV show The Flying Nun. He is also the bother of a Medal of Honor recipient, Rocky Versace.
Russ Schoene 1960
The 6-10, 215 lb. Schoene was the 2nd round pick of Philadelphia in the 1982 NBA draft. Mid way thru his first season, on February 15th, 1983, Schoene was traded to Indiana along with an 83 1st round pick (#23 Mitchell Wiggins) and an 84 2nd rounder (#29 Stuart Gray) for the Pacers Clemon Johnson and an 84 3rd rounder (#48 James Banks).
As a Pacer, Schoene played the remaining 32 games of the 82-83 season. He averaged 7.8 points & 3.3 rebounds in 16.8 minutes a game.
Schoene played overseas for the following two seasons, being named the Italian League MVP in 1986.
On October 2nd of 1986 the Pacers traded his rights along with Terence Stansbury to Seattle for John Long & a 1993 2nd round draft pick (#51 Spencer Dunkley).
After three seasons in Seattle, Schoene once again returned to Europe for five more seasons. In 1993 he attempted an NBA comeback with Sacramento but was waived just before the start of the season. Schoene finished his career in the CBA with Rapid City.
In 2002, after five years as an assistant with Bellevue Community College, Schoene joined the Washington Huskies coaching staff. He left following the 03-04 season to focus on the Samurai Sam's Teriyaki Grill which he help start in 1994.
Records
On this date in 1975: George McGinnis set a club playoff record with 11 turnovers in a 115-100 home defeat of San Antonio.
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Today is April 17th, on this date in Pacer history......
The Pacers are 6-6 in games played on this date.
Our record:
January ------ 303-293
February ----- 272-255
March -------- 328-306
April ---------- 135-128
Year to date - 1038-982
Playoff Update
On this date in 1969: After being down 3-1 the Pacers rally back to take win game 7 of the Eastern Semi's 120-111 over Kentucky.
On this date in 1971: The Pacers move to Utah for game 3 of the Western Finals & fall 121-108. Indiana now trails 2-1 with game 4 in Utah.
On this date in 1972: The Pacers fall to 0-2 with a game 2 loss at Utah, 117-109 in the Western Finals.
On this date in 1974: The Pacers drop game 3 at home of the Western Finals to Utah, 99-90.
On this date in 2004: The Pacers take game 1 in the first round of the playoffs with a 104-88 home win over Boston.
The Pacers are 2-3 in playoff games played on April 17th. Their playoff record now stands 29-29.
Transactions
On this date in 1974: The Pacers take part in the 10 round ABA draft. These are the players drafted by Indiana.
1. Billy Knight -------- Pittsburgh
2. Bruce King -------- Pan American
3. Roland Grant ------ New Mexico State
4. No pick
5. Eddie Woods ------ Oral Roberts
6. Ron DeVries ------- Illinois State
7. Alex English ------- South Carolina
8. Bobby Florence ---- Nevada - Las Vegas
9. Kevin Fitzgerald --- Oklahoma State
10. Mark Browne ----- Missouri Western
#1 Billy Knight had an 11 season career, 2 in the ABA & 9 in the NBA. Knight played seven seasons with the Pacers and also played with Buffalo, Boston, Kansas City & San Antonio.
#7 Alex English spent 15 seasons in the NBA, 2 with the Pacers. He also played with Milwaukee, Denver & Dallas.
Records
On this date in 1972: George McGinnis set a Pacer playoff record with 13 offensive rebounds in a 117-109 loss at Utah.
Important Date
On this date in 1969 the Pacers win their first playoff series. After falling behind 1-3, Indiana rallies back with wins in games 5 & 6, forcing a game 7 at home. The Pacers win game 7 120-111 to advance to the Eastern Finals against Miami.
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