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  • Motion Offense
    Lawyer Morty
    • Apr 2019
    • 5816

    #91
    Originally posted by BornIndy
    Hot take: Give me prime Curry over Lebron. Only thing Lebron has over him is size FOR defense. Curry is more clutch, cold blooded than him.

    Both have 2 MVP's and 4 rings. I usually discount Curry's 2 rings with Durant but LeBron did the same thing in Miami
    Bold take. Prime LeBron is probably the best player ever. He’s done things I don’t think anyone else can do. I’m not even a LeBron fan

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    • Sandman21
      SABONIS! :(
      • Jul 2007
      • 8556

      #92
      So apparently according to Windhorst, Tyrese had a minor leg injury during the games that he had an MRI done on.

      I for one am perfectly fine with him having mostly riding the bench all Olympics. Maybe it's just lingering PTSD from August 2014......
      "Nobody wants to play against Tyler Hansbrough NO BODY!" ~ Frank Vogel

      "And David put his hand in the bag and took out a stone and slung it. And it struck the Philistine on the head and he fell to the ground. Amen. "

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      • 712Jefferson
        Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 5137

        #93
        Originally posted by Sandman21
        So apparently according to Windhorst, Tyrese had a minor leg injury during the games that he had an MRI done on.

        I for one am perfectly fine with him having mostly riding the bench all Olympics. Maybe it's just lingering PTSD from August 2014......
        Wait, what happened??

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        • RamBo_Lamar
          Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 2592

          #94
          Newborn respect to all.. WOW! Love forever This was special,

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          • Sollozzo
            Member
            • Jan 2004
            • 27439

            #95
            This Olympics in general was thoroughly entertaining across the board .

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            • Ichi
              Member
              • Feb 2012
              • 5055

              #96
              Originally posted by BornIndy
              Hot take: Give me prime Curry over Lebron. Only thing Lebron has over him is size FOR defense. Curry is more clutch, cold blooded than him.

              Both have 2 MVP's and 4 rings. I usually discount Curry's 2 rings with Durant but LeBron did the same thing in Miami
              LeBron is a much more trustworthy playmaker. He literally does everything better except for shooting the ball and off-ball movement. Defense, rebounding, and playmaking all very easily go to LeBron. Scoring probably goes to LeBron too, even though he's always been a more pass first player.

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              • BornIndy
                INDIANA
                • May 2013
                • 8606

                #97
                Originally posted by Ichi

                LeBron is a much more trustworthy playmaker. He literally does everything better except for shooting the ball and off-ball movement. Defense, rebounding, and playmaking all very easily go to LeBron. Scoring probably goes to LeBron too, even though he's always been a more pass first player.
                You're underrating Curry's playmaking. Same can be said for Curry, even though he is a scorer, his passing is just as good as anybody's.

                Scoring? Curry has proven he can score whenever he wants despite his size. Lebron has had superteams after superteams and some how still has the same amount of rings as Curry.

                I would also take Jokic and a prime Kawhi over Lebron too. I just trust these players a lot more in closing situations.

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                • Ozwalt72
                  Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 2133

                  #98
                  Originally posted by BornIndy

                  Lebron has had superteams after superteams and some how still has the same amount of rings as Curry.
                  What qualifies as a superteam? Curry, Klay and Draymond will all be HOF. So will Durant. And they all played together in their prime.
                  "man, PG has been really good."

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                  • Motion Offense
                    Lawyer Morty
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 5816

                    #99
                    Originally posted by BornIndy

                    You're underrating Curry's playmaking. Same can be said for Curry, even though he is a scorer, his passing is just as good as anybody's.

                    Scoring? Curry has proven he can score whenever he wants despite his size. Lebron has had superteams after superteams and some how still has the same amount of rings as Curry.

                    I would also take Jokic and a prime Kawhi over Lebron too. I just trust these players a lot more in closing situations.
                    Jokic played arguably the weakest finals team in the last 20 years. Jokic is good but Jokic isn’t taking the 2018 Cavs or 2007 Cavs to the finals. Same for Kawhi

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                    • BornIndy
                      INDIANA
                      • May 2013
                      • 8606

                      Originally posted by Motion Offense

                      Jokic played arguably the weakest finals team in the last 20 years. Jokic is good but Jokic isn’t taking the 2018 Cavs or 2007 Cavs to the finals. Same for Kawhi
                      What are you basing this on? I don't know where Kyrie was ranked in 2018, but I'm guessing a top 10 player, top 15 at worst? Pair Jokic with another top 10 player right now and I think they would dominate.

                      2007 Cavs:

                      Did you forget that they got swept?

                      Kawhi:

                      He beat the Warriors in the finals in 2019. Durant got injured but LeBron also beat the Warriors without Durant.

                      He is also 1-1 vs. LeBron in the finals.

                      I'm not sure how can you say LeBron is the best you ever seen when he still has 2 less rings vs. Jordan, and has had more shots at it.

                      You can bring up 2007 but he easily had the best team during his 4 years in Miami and came up short twice

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                      • BornIndy
                        INDIANA
                        • May 2013
                        • 8606

                        Originally posted by Ozwalt72

                        What qualifies as a superteam? Curry, Klay and Draymond will all be HOF. So will Durant. And they all played together in their prime.
                        A big 3 basically.

                        Wade, Bosh, Lebron in Miami

                        Irving, Lebron, Love in Cleveland (In hindsight Love did not show up in the big games, but when the trade went down there was hype around them)

                        When Durant went to GS, that's just a next level superteam.

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                        • Ichi
                          Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 5055

                          Originally posted by BornIndy

                          You're underrating Curry's playmaking. Same can be said for Curry, even though he is a scorer, his passing is just as good as anybody's.

                          Scoring? Curry has proven he can score whenever he wants despite his size. Lebron has had superteams after superteams and some how still has the same amount of rings as Curry.

                          I would also take Jokic and a prime Kawhi over Lebron too. I just trust these players a lot more in closing situations.
                          I never said anything about Curry's playmaking, but it's not as good as LeBron's imo. I don't think LeBron is the best passer in the league or anything, but he is above Curry in terms of over all team creation imo. Curry has typically only really had that role in years his team hasn't been very good, or just before the realization that Draymond would better serve the role as lead playmaker. Both guys (Bron and Steph) turn the ball over too much though.


                          Also, I didn't mention championships, I mentioned scoring. They're both plenty great at it, but LeBron can get his buckets in just about any situation possible because he's been so dominant in the mid/close range since his Miami days. Obviously Curry is one of the most creative finishers of all-time too, but he can't get to the rim as reliably as LeBron, and the outside shot is a little more inconsistent than rim attacks, naturally. Perhaps that's not a fair criteria for scoring though.

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                          • Ichi
                            Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 5055

                            Originally posted by BornIndy

                            What are you basing this on? I don't know where Kyrie was ranked in 2018, but I'm guessing a top 10 player, top 15 at worst? Pair Jokic with another top 10 player right now and I think they would dominate.

                            2007 Cavs:

                            Did you forget that they got swept?

                            Kawhi:

                            He beat the Warriors in the finals in 2019. Durant got injured but LeBron also beat the Warriors without Durant.

                            He is also 1-1 vs. LeBron in the finals.

                            I'm not sure how can you say LeBron is the best you ever seen when he still has 2 less rings vs. Jordan, and has had more shots at it.

                            You can bring up 2007 but he easily had the best team during his 4 years in Miami and came up short twice
                            About the 2007 Cavs, do you not think it's impressive that a 22 year old got them to the Finals at all? They were swept by the best team of an era.

                            He did have a horrible horrible series in Miami against Dallas, that's true too.

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                            • MillerTime
                              FREE LANCE
                              • May 2008
                              • 7637

                              Originally posted by Sandman21
                              So apparently according to Windhorst, Tyrese had a minor leg injury during the games that he had an MRI done on.

                              I for one am perfectly fine with him having mostly riding the bench all Olympics. Maybe it's just lingering PTSD from August 2014......
                              Is this the same injury from January? I’m hope not
                              "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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                              • Ichi
                                Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 5055

                                Originally posted by MillerTime

                                Is this the same injury from January? I’m hope not
                                I personally wouldn't consider that to be so minor, since it'd be the third time he'd have a problem with the same thing. Windy went on to say it wasn't bad enough to shut him down or anything, but that it was something that popped up. But something for an MRI to see... Idk I can't really imagine what it'd be other than the stupid hamstring. I'm not going to jump to conclusions, as tempting as it is to yell out from the rooftops he should've been sitting until April.

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