THE TANK IS BACK.

[Dece]

It's all good. I hope they are bad enough that despite trying to milk everything they can out of everyone they win only 3-5 games down the stretch here.

[Nuntius]

It's all good. I hope they are bad enough that despite trying to milk everything they can out of everyone they win only 3-5 games down the stretch here.

We may disagree on what the team aims to do but we do agree on what we hope happens.

[vnzla81]

Rooting for Washington, Chicago and Mavericks

[vnzla81]

The tank took a hit today with a win luckily Washington and Toronto did
their thing.

[LongTimePacerFan]

50 games with Hali this year and we're over .500 in those games. But keep telling yourselves that this team is going to be 10 games under .500 down the stretch somehow.

We're going to end up right around 38 wins. HopefulHopehat's outside of the play in tournament, because if Hali hadn't gotten hurt, we definitely would have been in it.

[vnzla81]

50 games with Hali this year and we're over .500 in those games. But keep telling yourselves that this team is going to be 10 games under .500 down the stretch somehow.

We're going to end up right around 38 wins. HopefulHopehat's outside of the play in tournament, because if Hali hadn't gotten hurt, we definitely would have been in it.

How many games left you think the Pacers have? just stop it man let
it go lol

[LongTimePacerFan]

just stop it man let
it go lol

The irony. You should be saying this to yourself.

We have 19 games left. Literally all you have to do is extrapolate what this team has done while healthy to get 10-9 as pur remaining record. Which would put us at 38 wins.

This team has consistently been a playoff caliber team all year, with the exception of when Haliburton was out.

The people excited about the nonexistant tank have been somewhere between unrealistically optimistic and delusional.

There's a realistic possibility we catch Washington. We should just be hoping we stay out of the play in, because that's best case scenario for our draft pick.

[vnzla81]

The irony. You should be saying this to yourself.

We have 19 games left. Literally all you have to do is extrapolate what this team has done while healthy to get 10-9 as pur remaining record. Which would put us at 38 wins.

This team has consistently been a playoff caliber team all year, with the exception of when Haliburton was out.

The people excited about the nonexistant tank have been somewhere between unrealistically optimistic and delusional.

There's a realistic possibility we catch Washington. We should just be hoping we stay out of the play in, because that's best case scenario for our draft pick.

So you just assume that every team in front of Pacers loses every game and Pacers win 10 games out of 19? ok ….

[cinotimz]

delusional is thinking this version of the Pacers is a playoff caliber team

[vnzla81]

The irony. You should be saying this to yourself.

We have 19 games left. Literally all you have to do is extrapolate what this team has done while healthy to get 10-9 as pur remaining record. Which would put us at 38 wins.

This team has consistently been a playoff caliber team all year, with the exception of when Haliburton was out.

The people excited about the nonexistant tank have been somewhere between unrealistically optimistic and delusional.

There's a realistic possibility we catch Washington. We should just be hoping we stay out of the play in, because that's best case scenario for our draft pick.

This is also another delusional talking point, here is Pacers record since Hali got back:


4 wins and 7 losses.

[LongTimePacerFan]

delusional is thinking this version of the Pacers is a playoff caliber team

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this team is a contender. But they objectively have played a playoff pace when healthy. That's not my opinion, that's not speculation, that's literally just a fact.

[vnzla81]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this team is a contender. But they objectively have played a playoff pace when healthy. That's not my opinion, that's not speculation, that's literally just a fact.

You can say the same thing for about 15 to 20 other teams so it means nothing.

[LongTimePacerFan]

This is also another delusional talking point, here is Pacers record since Hali got back:


4 wins and 7 losses.

What point are you making? Is it that a random 11 game sample is more telling than a season long 51 game sample? If that is your point, I simply don't know how to respond.

26-25 on the year with Hali playing. That includes games where he was less than 100%. He looks near 100% now.

As currently constructed, this is a .500 or better basketball team. There's no logical reason to expect them to finish the season worse than 10-9 or 9-10.

If you want to make an actual coherent point, you could mention that the Wizards also have a pretty weak schedule go finish the year, which could help the "tank".

[LongTimePacerFan]

You can say the same thing for about 15 to 20 other teams so it means nothing.

Uhh. 16 teams are going to make the playoffs. 20 will be in, if you include the play in tournament. So, ummm... yes.

[Dece]

There are lots of different ways to measure team health for a season. One simple way is just games lost to injury, period. By that metric the Pacers are the 14th healthiest team with 131 total games lost to injury. This is a little simplistic, because losing your top guy is obviously more impactful than losing your 8th guy. One way to try to do some normalization is to look at how much salary was paid to injured players. By that metric the Pacers were the 4th healthiest team, paying $12,671,135 to players unable to play in games.

In my view, the Pacers were at worst average in the injuries department, and more realistically they were considerably above average in injury luck this season. A real rare treat for the Pacers in recent history.

I don't think it's reasonable to claim this team would be better if only they were healthier. It isn't likely to be much healthier than they have been. This isn't 2k, you can't turn injuries off, every team has them. Editing in a source here if anyone was curious: https://www.spotrac.com/nba/injured-...mulative-team/