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  • festar35
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 2835

    #1

    Pick Watch

    As things stand we would be picking 15th, 24th + 29th I figure could be a fun exercise to track how things are going in terms of draft standings.
  • Ichi
    Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 5059

    #2
    As it stands right now, it'd be a pretty disappointing draft night.

    I'm not that worried about it though. I expect things to balance out, of course. Beginning of the year is funky pretty often.
    Last edited by Ichi; 11-05-2022, 04:53 AM.

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    • croz24
      Member
      • Jun 2005
      • 5544

      #3
      The 5 head play would be to offer up our 1st this year as an unprotected, in addition to whatever else, to acquire the elite wing/big (potential) we need as soon as possible. These 1sts are incredibly overvalued right now and with the perception our pick will be a lotto pick, adds even more value. And I also am not a huge fan of this class right now beyond Wemby, especially for what we need.

      So would I offer something like Duarte and our unprotected 1st for Kuminga? Yes.

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      • Eleazar
        Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 13839

        #4
        I don't get the obsession with young Warrior players.

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        • SaintLouisan
          Member
          • Jan 2018
          • 4206

          #5
          Originally posted by Eleazar
          I don't get the obsession with young Warrior players.
          I agree generally but Iโ€™d probably take a chance on Kuminga for the right price

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          • croz24
            Member
            • Jun 2005
            • 5544

            #6
            Originally posted by Eleazar
            I don't get the obsession with young Warrior players.
            Could care less what NBA team he is on... as you saw last year, Kuminga was my #1 player in the draft, followed by Wagner. I believe he has elite potential and can maximize that potential if put on the right team soon. Also happens to play what I feel is the most important position left for us to fill.

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            • DrFife
              Member
              • May 2008
              • 2386

              #7
              Originally posted by croz24

              Could care less what NBA team he is on... as you saw last year, Kuminga was my #1 player in the draft, followed by Wagner. I believe he has elite potential and can maximize that potential if put on the right team soon. Also happens to play what I feel is the most important position left for us to fill.

              I agree with Croz on this one. It's clear we already have some good talent in development, so it makes sense to accelerate the process of acquiring more talent with the highest potential. The chances are low that we keep all three picks to add three newbies to this roster.

              What would be really fun from a PD perspective is to expand the trade to our "aged trash" of Myles, Buddy, Duarte and a #1 for Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody, for whom so many here have expressed their love primarily due to his significantly younger age.


              "Heโ€™s no shrinking violet when it comes to that kind of stuff."

              - Rick Carlisle on how Kevin Pritchard responds to needed roster changes.

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              • Hoop
                PG who Points
                • Jan 2004
                • 6110

                #8
                Originally posted by croz24
                The 5 head play would be to offer up our 1st this year as an unprotected, in addition to whatever else, to acquire the elite wing/big (potential) we need as soon as possible. These 1sts are incredibly overvalued right now and with the perception our pick will be a lotto pick, adds even more value. And I also am not a huge fan of this class right now beyond Wemby, especially for what we need.

                So would I offer something like Duarte and our unprotected 1st for Kuminga? Yes.
                I really like Kuminga. HOLY CRAP that would be unbelievably stupid trade. Trade a UNPROTECTED lottery pick with Wemby a possibility. Wow. We are probably going be in the lottery, even though we've played so far ahead of expectations so far.

                If our pick ended up being Wemby it would be labeled the dumbest team/trade maybe ever. This years lottery overall is supposed to be really good, maybe many better than Kuminga.
                "Just look at the flowers ........ BANG" - Carol "The Walking Dead"

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                • festar35
                  Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 2835

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hoop
                  I really like Kuminga. HOLY CRAP that would be unbelievably stupid trade. Trade a UNPROTECTED lottery pick with Wemby a possibility. Wow. We are probably going be in the lottery, even though we've played so far ahead of expectations so far.

                  If our pick ended up being Wemby it would be labeled the dumbest team/trade maybe ever. This years lottery overall is supposed to be really good, maybe many better than Kuminga.
                  I'd rather give them both the Cavs + Celtics Picks than our own & if we attaching Duarte to 2 x 1sts as well as saving the Warriors some luxury tax money then I think that's more than fair.

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                  • kent beckley
                    Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 5029

                    #10
                    Originally posted by croz24
                    The 5 head play would be to offer up our 1st this year as an unprotected, in addition to whatever else, to acquire the elite wing/big (potential) we need as soon as possible. These 1sts are incredibly overvalued right now and with the perception our pick will be a lotto pick, adds even more value. And I also am not a huge fan of this class right now beyond Wemby, especially for what we need.

                    So would I offer something like Duarte and our unprotected 1st for Kuminga? Yes.
                    I agree to an extent. I am not trading our pick right now though. if they want Duarte and one of the other picks, or if we get to the lottery and have the 15th and two picks in the twenties, then yeah, find a guy on a rookie deal who is being underutilized and letโ€™s go.

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                    • owl
                      Member
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 17658

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DrFife


                      I agree with Croz on this one. It's clear we already have some good talent in development, so it makes sense to accelerate the process of acquiring more talent with the highest potential. The chances are low that we keep all three picks to add three newbies to this roster.

                      What would be really fun from a PD perspective is to expand the trade to our "aged trash" of Myles, Buddy, Duarte and a #1 for Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody, for whom so many here have expressed their love primarily due to his significantly younger age.
                      Money wise this would never work and talent for talent I think that trade would get you fired. To me Hield is highly valuable.

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                      • DrFife
                        Member
                        • May 2008
                        • 2386

                        #12
                        Originally posted by owl

                        Money wise this would never work and talent for talent I think that trade would get you fired. To me Hield is highly valuable.
                        I was appealing to a certain boisterous segment of the PD crowd. They'd fire anyone within days anyway.


                        "Heโ€™s no shrinking violet when it comes to that kind of stuff."

                        - Rick Carlisle on how Kevin Pritchard responds to needed roster changes.

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                        • Pacerized
                          Member
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 7903

                          #13
                          A few early wins does not change my mind about the right direction for this team. We have 2 players that I see as starters on this team in 2-3 years. Our best bet is still to move Turner and Hield for picks, let the young guys play and get the best pick we can in the next draft. We're not ending this season with 40 wins.
                          Why do teams tank? Ask a Spurs fan.

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                          • Ratking
                            Born Heady
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1765

                            #14
                            A top-5 pick would be nice this year, but I also have confidence in the idea of a mini-rebuild with Mathurin as the payout. He is the level of talent you hope to tank for. Him plus Haliburton, plus proving we are a playoff team now might be enough to attract a key free agent the next two years to become a contender. So winning might be the best thing for us in the long run. The chances of landing Wemby or Scoot, having them stay healthy and happy in Indy might be too slim to continue a tank over, developing losing habits and souring our young stars on Indy.
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                            • festar35
                              Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 2835

                              #15
                              The pick watch is very similar to what was posted when the thread was started. We are currently looking at 17th, 26th + 30th, unfortunately though that Houston Rockets 2nd Rounder has fallen outside the protection for now.

                              17th - Kris Murray, Jalen Wilson come to mind.
                              26th + 30th - I haven't done enough research.

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