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  • MillerTime
    FREE LANCE
    • May 2008
    • 7908

    #466
    Originally posted by vnzla81
    I need Kris Murray though
    Not with our first pick. Let’s trade the Cavs and Celtics pick for a late lottery pick for Murray
    "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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    • vnzla81
      Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 69673

      #467
      Walker could give us a lot of hope.



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      • CableKC
        Member
        • Mar 2005
        • 36691

        #468
        Originally posted by vnzla81
        Walker could give us a lot of hope.

        Assuming that the Pacers don't get a top 4 pick and he's off the board by the time the Pacers pick, whose your next guy on your Big Board?
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        • vnzla81
          Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 69673

          #469
          Originally posted by CableKC
          Assuming that the Pacers don't get a top 4 pick and he's off the board by the time the Pacers pick, whose your next guy on your Big Board?
          Either one of the twins and if they are gone I'll be OK with Black.
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          • MillerTime
            FREE LANCE
            • May 2008
            • 7908

            #470
            Originally posted by vnzla81
            Walker could give us a lot of hope.



            He’s athletic. Some mocks have time outside of the lottery
            "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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            • Basketball Fan
              Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 17409

              #471

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              • CJ Jones
                Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 9259

                #472
                Originally posted by Wage
                Random draft takes before too much of the tournament takes place:

                Brandon Miller will pass Scoot as the number 2 pick on most mocks. He would go #1 in most drafts.

                Jarace Walker needs to show he's a dude in this tourney or I think he is a pass in the lotto with how deep this draft is. Again love his size and skillset but he's just so damn soft and passive.

                Caught up with a bunch of OTE games on Amazon and the twins are legit. Amen is like an even more athletic Anthony Edwards (which is crazy to say) and Ausar is almost as athletic and a lot more skilled.

                Jordan Hawkins mocking in the 20s will just flat out be a better player than Dick who is mocking lottery. I think Dick ends up getting the Duncan Robinson treatment where he looks amazing until you realize he is completely unplayable in the playoffs due to being flat out trash on defense.

                I still have all my Dariq Whitehead stock and I'm not coming off it.

                I'm coming around on Edey if he is available mid second round. I think he will be unplayable in the playoffs but can help win a few regular season games for sure.

                Is TJD the next Draymond Green? I'm starting to think he could be.

                One last time for the cheap seats, the teams that Pass on DaRon Holmes are going to regret it. He will be at least as good as Ayton, and Ayton is really good.

                I love this draft. If I had an expansion team with no players but 2 lotto picks and 8 other mid to late first rounders in this draft I could build a team that makes the playoffs in 3 years.

                Final oddball question:

                Would my fellow PDers trade Mathurin and Duarte for Barnes and the Toronto first? I think I would and Mathurin was one of my absolute faves last draft and I like him even more now. Mostly because I think we could backfill him with so many guys in this draft and Barnes and that pick would be nice. Hard call though.
                Hell no on the Barnes trade. He's arguably regressed this year.

                ​​​Greens an interesting comp for TJD. Dude just keeps getting better so I wouldn't put it past him. How high would you take him? I'd rather have him than Hood-Shifino and I like JHS. I have him at 18. While we're at it, how high you taking Holmes and Dariq?

                ​If you think Jerace is soft, watch the second half of last nights game. I think he scored like 5 points but he was clearly the most impactful player on the floor. Those type of players are rare. There's almost cero chance he falls out of the top 10 IMO.

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                • CJ Jones
                  Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 9259

                  #473
                  I can't say I know a ton about either of these guys but I have Bilal over Rayan Rupert. I really don't see what the hype is with Rupert other than freakishly long arms.

                  Last edited by CJ Jones; 03-19-2023, 03:08 PM.

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                  • CJ Jones
                    Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 9259

                    #474
                    I said this months ago. This kids got big upside. Hes got a reported 40 inch vert as well. With his recent play, I've moved him up into the 1st round (30th)

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                    • CJ Jones
                      Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 9259

                      #475
                      Originally posted by vnzla81
                      I need Kris Murray though
                      He struggled toward the end of the season and that's good for the Pacers because you know they want him. Hope he falls to the Cleveland pick.

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                      • croz24
                        Member
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 5561

                        #476
                        As I said on the 1st page... Jarace Walker has to be the guy with our earliest pick if he is there. That is a must. Do whatever with the other picks, but Jarace is a must selection for the Pacers.

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                        • Wage
                          Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 2583

                          #477
                          Originally posted by CJ Jones

                          Hell no on the Barnes trade. He's arguably regressed this year.

                          ​​​Greens an interesting comp for TJD. Dude just keeps getting better so I wouldn't put it past him. How high would you take him? I'd rather have him than Hood-Shifino and I like JHS. I have him at 18. While we're at it, how high you taking Holmes and Dariq?

                          ​If you think Jerace is soft, watch the second half of last nights game. I think he scored like 5 points but he was clearly the most impactful player on the floor. Those type of players are rare. There's almost cero chance he falls out of the top 10 IMO.

                          Yeah Barnes has regressed a bit, which is the only reason a hypothetical like this could even be mentioned. Even my proposal has Benn with quite a bit more value than Barnes, which I'm not sure would be true around the league. I just think a core of say Hali, Benn, and Walker has a much lower ceiling than say Hali, Ausur, GG, and Barnes. Probably never really be offered, but thought it was interesting to think about and I love Mathurin.

                          I probably still have TJD in late 20s, but that is mostly because I love the depth of the draft. Dariq I have in the late teens to just outside lottery range. Kind of a lazy Duke comparison but I think his worst case scenario is a rich man's AJ Griffin, which is a very good piece. Holmes I have as the best center not named Wemby in the draft which puts him early 20s I think.

                          And yeah I will sit alone on my Walker hater island. And again I actually don't dislike his game except for how soft he is. He could be 6'4 195 lbs and still be the same guy. If we were loaded with top end talent I could maybe talk myself into him for his high floor and fit as a connective piece and defender, but a team that is struggling for star power cant waste a top 10 pick on a guy with a 0% chance of becoming a star.

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                          • CJ Jones
                            Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 9259

                            #478
                            0% chance really? Jarace is gonna be an all NBA level guy defensively. His path to stardom is clearer than Brandon Miller's IMO. And I'll lay out my case against Brandon
                            ​​​​​​sometime soon so it doesn't look like I'm just a hater.

                            ​AJ Griffin's a good Dariq comp.
                            Last edited by CJ Jones; 03-21-2023, 02:36 PM.

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                            • CJ Jones
                              Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 9259

                              #479
                              Sweet 16 update. This covers the g league/conference tourneys up to now...

                              1) Victor
                              2) Scoot
                              3) Amen Thompson
                              4) Ausur Thompson (+)
                              5) Jarace Walker
                              6) Anthony Black
                              7) Cam Whitmore
                              8) Taylor Hendricks
                              9) GG Jackson II (-)
                              10) Brandon Miller
                              11) Keyonte George
                              12) Gradey Dick
                              13) Sidy Cissoko (+)
                              14) Brice Sensabaugh
                              15) Cason Wallace (-)
                              16) Kris Murray
                              17) Leonard Miller
                              18) Trayce Jackson-Davis (+)
                              19) Nick Smith Jr. (-)
                              20) Dariq Whitehead
                              21) Jalen Hood-Shifino
                              22) DaRon Holmes II
                              23) Derick Lively
                              24) Maxwell Lewis
                              25) Jordan Hawkins
                              26) Mike Mitchell Jr.
                              27) Terrence Shannon Jr.
                              28) Jett Howard
                              29) Bilal Coulibaly (+)
                              30) Jordan Walsh (+)
                              31) Azuolas Tubelis
                              32) Terquavion Smith
                              33) Noah Clowney
                              34) Colby Jones (+)
                              35) Kyle Filipowski (-)
                              36) Trevon Brazile
                              37) Rayan Rupert
                              38) Adem Bona (+)
                              39) Julian Phillips
                              40) Baba Miller
                              41) Kel'el Ware
                              42) James Nnaji
                              43) Nikola Djurisic
                              44) Mike Miles Jr.
                              45) Marcus Sasser
                              46) Julian Strawther
                              47) Ricky Counsil IV
                              48) Kobe Bufkin
                              49) Keyontae Johnson
                              50) Zach Edey
                              51) Grant Nelson
                              52) Jalen Wilson
                              53) Brandin Podzeimski
                              54) Judah Mintz
                              55) Jamie Jaquez Jr.

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                              • BornIndy
                                INDIANA
                                • May 2013
                                • 8917

                                #480
                                I think the Thompson twins are overrated. Give me Brandon Miller over them any day

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