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Banchero's choosing to play with USA this summer. One more to get to 12-man roster. They might have a tough time winning with this squad.
Mikal Bridges
Jalen Brunson
Anthony Edwards
Tyrese Haliburton
Brandon Ingram
Jaren Jackson Jr.
Cam Johnson
Walker Kessler
Bobby Portis
Austin Reaves
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Some background on Walker. I can see why they targeted him. He should fit in nicely with what they're trying to build culture-wise. I've said it before, but with the parity in the league these days, building a good team culture is more important than ever. Sheppard seems like one of those culture guys as well (just hope he can play). You can tell they have a type. A guy like GG Jackson was never in play.
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Jarace Walker's unselfishness, discipline come from home, make him ideal Pacers fit
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INDIANAPOLIS — Horace Walker remembers the day when he knew all his lessons took and his son Jarace had matured beyond his years, just as Horace had hoped.
You could argue that day was the one that changed Jarace's life, the event that set him on the path toward Thursday, when he shook Adam Silver's hand on the stage at the NBA draft as the No. 8 pick, and Friday when he arrived at Indianapolis and got to hold a Pacers jersey with his name on it. That day has a lot to do with why Walker is so versatile on both offense and defense, why he can easily fit himself into just about any team dynamic and provide what is needed. Why he arrives in the NBA, even as a top-10 pick, with the humility of a player who has spent much of his teenage years in the company of other players who are his equal or superior.
It was the day he told his parents before his freshman year of high school he wanted to leave their home in New Freedom, Pa. in York County near the Maryland border to spend four years at IMG Academy in Bradenton, Fla., and that they should let him do it.
"I knew at that point, he was just 14," Horace said, "but he was older than 14 because of the way he thinks."
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Jarace Walker's maturity on and off the floor was a big part of what drew the Pacers to him. They were impressed by how easily he seemed to step into every role he was asked to play, from the season he played point guard as a sophomore at IMG to his lone season at Houston when he willingly deferred to All-American guard Marcus Sasser and other Houston vets but carved out a vital role on both ends of the floor for a Cougars team that won a conference title, earned a No. 1 seed and reached the Sweet 16. They see in him a player who can seamlessly fit into a closely knit locker room culture with established leaders such as Tyrese Haliburton and Myles Turner but also bring talents to the mix the Pacers didn't have last year.
"Getting to know him through the draft process and interviewing him, what he looks like and how he plays and his personality, they don't always match up," Pacers general manager Chad Buchanan said. "Because he looks like this big rugged tough guy on the court which is what we want, but he's an outstanding young man, very personable, fun to be around, and I know he's going to fit with our team well."
'This is my goal. This is my dream'
That was Horace and Marcia Walker's goal with all their children, that they be disciplined and they be outstanding.
Horace grew up in a strict household, one of eight children born in the Carribean island nation of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines. He was a volleyball and cricket player there and then a swimmer when his family immigrated to the United States. When he met Marcia and they had children, he wanted to follow his father's example.
"My father was a very strict man," Horace said. "Being around him, growing up around him, you gotta do the right thing. Anything out of that box, you're going to be punished for it, and he did punish us. I employed that same thing with Jarace. If you do anything wrong, there is discipline. After a while, you keep doing it and doing it and you realize that it doesn't make any sense doing it out of the box, so he stayed in the box, and you keep enforcing it as time goes by. It kind of grew into him and it became a normal part of his life."
The commands were basic. The Walker children were expected to respect their elders, addressing them as sir and ma'am. They were required to stay out of trouble, and when they involved themselves in something, they were expected to commit to it.
"I always told them, if you're going to do something, if you're not going to do it right, there's no sense of doing it," Horace said. "So he picked that up. That was part of basketball. If you're going to do it, do it, if not, just leave it alone. He said he wanted to do it, so I gave him all the tools that he needed to do it."
Jarace's three older sisters, who were all on hand for Friday's introductory news conference, are all athletes. Sherelle Walker played volleyball at UMBC from 2012-15. Jaden just finished her fourth season playing basketball at St. Joseph's after being named all-State three times at Susquehannock High School, where Jarace would have gone.
The standards, then, were always high, and so was the pressure to meet them, but Jarace got used to it and learned that it ultimately made him better.
"It was just upbringing, teaching me early manners, being polite, being respectful, never letting me step out of line, step out of place," Walker said, "just being strict when they had to be. They were the perfect parents in terms of just knowing when to love, knowing when to teach, knowing when to be hard on me, just guiding me throughout the whole process, making me a good young man."
But after eighth grade, an opportunity came around that required Jarace to leave their home, and he believed he needed to take it. He was one of the highest-rated players in the nation in his class and he had played on the freshman team at Susquehannock as an eighth grader. So IMG Academy, a school that was built for the purpose of attracting and cultivating athletes, made him a target.
Horace said he was OK with the idea of Jarace going away, but even when he talks about it now he still sounds like he was at least a little leery about the idea. Marcia was definitively opposed.
But Jarace made his case. He called a meeting with his parents and told them why he felt they should let him go.
".He said he doesn't think it's fair if you're going to just not send me to school because of your fear," Horace said. "'It's not fair. This is my goal, this is my dream. This is what I want to do. And I feel that you should give me the opportunity to do it.'"
Horace and Marcia left the room to discuss his case with each other, and decided they would let him go.
"If he had not said that, I don't think he would have made it to IMG," Horace said. "That was the strong point."
But Horace made sure early in the process Jarace understood he and his mother would still be watching him closely from afar, and they hadn't lowered their standards. In the first month, Jarace got in trouble for a minor infraction. Jarace thinks it was something as small as falling asleep in class.
Horace came down to Florida and threatened to take Jarace out of school and bring him back home to Pennsylvania. He didn't actually plan on doing it that day, but he wanted Jarace to know it was possible.
"We kind of staged the whole thing," Horace said. "(Coach Sean McAloon) was in on it. Everybody was in on it. The fear we put in his heart that day, he kinda, I told him I don't want to come back down here for that kind of trip. Then after that, he just kind of got into it. That was his dream to go down there and get better."
Said Jarace: "Just knowing he pays attention to the little things means the world. I feel like he just helped me overall making the right decisions and staying locked in no matter what I'm doing."
'The Manchild'
IMG's basketball program has only existed since 2000, but has hit national superpower over the past decade as a program with the resources to recruit the entire nation.
But prior to Walker, it never had a player stay and play on the national team all four years. Many players aren't willing to leave home that early to enter prep school, and many of the players who are end up attending several in their high school careers.
"In today's world, it's hard to get those kids to stay in one place for four years," IMG director of basketball Brian Nash said. "They usually bounce around to schools. But he was our first four-year kid. Just an awesome kid."
When he arrived he was already big enough to physically hang with even the nation's toughest competition, which is exactly what IMG had on its roster and what it was playing against. Walker was one of just two freshmen on IMG's national team roster that season on a group that also included North Carolina big man Armando Bacot, former Arizona guard and 2020 Mavericks first-round pick Josh Green, Oklahoma City Thunder forward Jeremiah Robinson-Earl and 76ers wing Jaden Springer. But Walker held his own and was a key frontcourt piece off the bench on the team that claimed the 2019 GEICO High School National Championship.
"He had a nickname," Nash said, "He was 'The Manchild' in ninth grade. He looked like Larry Johnson. He came in as a freshman playing on a team with some very good players, NBA guys. We knew he was going to be special. He could dunk on anybody at that stage. We knew he was a power player."
But he also didn't carry himself as if he was a big deal, and that made it easy for him to carve out a role. He knew he was good, but he knew his teammates were too.
"For a kid who was the No. 1 eighth grader, whatever that means, he came in very humble," Nash said. "He had a great work ethic when he was young. He came into an environment, they won a national championship and he played a big part of it during that season. It was kind of his body of work. He came in with a really good work ethic. He respected the upperclassmen. He knew he had to put his time in."
He also knew he had to expand his game and adapt to whatever other superstars joined the program, so he did. As a sophomore he played point guard because IMG brought in several blue-chip forwards and big men, including Jalen Johnson, Mark Williams and Moussa Diabate, who all ended up being draft picks.
That experience still helps his game.
"I feel like my passing is mostly natural, just being in that position for that year," Walker said. "I feel like just being able to read the defenses, know which plays to call for who, where my guys like the ball. I definitely learned a lot that year just playing that position."
Walker missed most of his junior year, but as a senior he showed the full breadth of his talent, averaging 16.7 points, 8.2 rebounds and 4.0 assists, earning McDonald's All America honors and helping IMG reach the semis of GEICO nationals before they lost to eventual champion Montverde Academy. He became more assertive, but not to the point of trying to outshine the other huge talents on his team including Keyonte George and Jett Howard, both of whom were also taken in the top 20 picks of Thursday's draft.
"Over the course of his time, we definitely wanted him to be more selfish," Nash said. "I think so much of it comes back to who he is as a person, how his parents raised him. He's just a super humble kid and a great teammate. I think that means a lot to him to be a good teammate. He takes on whatever role he needs to have to help the team."
And now that he's beginning an NBA career, Walker can see how much that will mean to him as a pro.
"Just being able to read different players," Walker said, "learn from them. Just being able to play with high-level players. I think that's a skill. I feel like everybody can't really do that. Just being able to jell and connect with high-level talent. I think that will help me early on."
After his time at IMG, however, Walker didn't follow any of those high-level players to the NBA factories they usually go to. He chose a program based around discipline, exactly where his father wanted him to play.
'Thank you for coaching my son'
Walker could have gone to school just about anywhere he wanted. He was the No. 12 player in the Class of 2022 and the No. 2 power forward. Kentucky, Villanova and North Carolina showed interest but didn't offer according to 247Sports.com, but offers came in from every power-five conference in the country other than the Pac-12. Alabama, Auburn, LSU and Ohio State were among his other finalists.
But Horace in particular liked the idea of Jarace playing for Kelvin Sampson.
In Indiana, Sampson is still considered a villain, of course, because of his 2008 NCAA recruiting violations as the Hoosiers' head coach that ultimately led to his resignation and the implosion of the program. The roster was decimated following his departure and IU went 28-66 in his successor Tom Crean's first three seasons before finally getting back to the NCAA tournament.
But after serving a five-year show cause penalty, Sampson has turned Houston into the pre-eminent program in the American Athletic Conference with a hard-nosed, defense-oriented style of play that modeled what Horace wanted to see from Jarace. Sampson has a 232-74 record in nine seasons at Houston and has taken the Cougars to a Final Four and four Sweet 16s.
"Most of the coaches that coach Jarace were more or less happy to have him on the team," Horace said. "So they never really pushed him to his ability. I knew as a parent he had a lot more in him to give. I knew if I took him to coach Sampson, it would be a different story. He's no joke. He teaches good defense. You have to rebound. You have to hustle. You have to work."
And Sampson wanted Walker to be more assertive than he was.
"I felt like we could help him with the things that he needed to get better at," Sampson said. "We were brutally honest with his parents. Jarace had to learn how to use his gifts. He's 6-8, 240 pounds and very talented, but there wasn't always connection between his talent and his production. In an AAU game (we watched) he was always behind the 3-point line, the ball was shot and he's the first guy back. I said, 'Jarace, every shot is a pass to you. You gotta go to the boards."
And Walker did, grabbing 6.8 rebounds per game in his lone college season to go with 11.2 points, 1.8 assists, 1.3 blocks and 1.0 steals per game. His versatility on defense helped Houston finish second in the nation in scoring defense, fifth in adjusted defensive efficiency and second in effective field goal percentage defense according to KenPom.com. They also finished fourth in the nation in offensive rebound percentage and Walker was a big reason why.
Sampson didn't take it easy on Walker and pushed him with Horace's direct approval. Walker struggled in a game on New Year's Eve against Central Florida and Taylor Hendricks, who would eventually be taken two picks after Walker in the draft. Walker scored just two points in that game on 0-of-5 shooting and grabbed just three rebounds. Sampson took him out of the game with 11:42 left and didn't put him back in, and Houston won the game.
"Jarace just wasn't very good in that game," Sampson said. "The next morning my phone pings and I got a text from his father. I'm thinking, 'Uh-oh.' But here was the text. 'Coach Sampson, thank you for coaching my son.' How about that? That says a lot about how that boy was raised and why he came to Houston."
He learned lessons and got stronger and tougher. Sampson still thought he could be too unselfish and needed to be more assertive, but Walker made the steps he had to make to be a lottery pick.
"I think he's just scratching the surface of how good he can be," Sampson said. "I'm going to miss him as a player, but more than that I'm going to miss him as a person, just because of how good of a teammate he was."
'That's just who he is'
The Pacers have already identified areas where they'd like to see Walker take next steps. They'd like to see his 3-point shot become a little more consistent and they too would like to see him be more assertive with his powerful body — he measured 6-6 1/4, 248.5 pounds with a 7-2 1/2 inch wingspan at the NBA Draft Combine. They think he could be more dominant on the glass and around the rim, and there are shots he doesn't take they believe he should.
"If anything, Jarace may be a little guilty of being too unselfish at times," Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said. "He'll learn very quickly in the NBA what the game is about. You always have to be a threat to score. That will open up opportunities to pass and engage and empower your teammates."
But they love how easily and how quickly he connects with people and teammates and see options for what his multi-faceted game can add to a team that is at its best when the ball is moving.
"We think Walker is a really unique prospect because of his ability to handle, see the floor, pass, make plays," Carlisle said. "He's one of these guys that is one of the rare young big guys who has really great feel for the game."
Some of that feel is natural, and some of it comes from a simple desire to help others.
"That's just who he is," Horace said. "He's a caring, loving, giving person and he likes to share."
But his ability to share effectively on the basketball court came because he had time to hone that skill at IMG, because his parents instilled discipline in him and trusted him to use it when he left their home.Comment
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Wasn't all this the same stuff we heard when we wasted a lotto pick on Duarte? How he's the most Pacers pick ever and a perfect fit and a culture guy? Now 2 years later we are wasting another 1st on a guy in Shephard that is supposed to be his replacement. Hopefully this years lotto pick goes better.Comment
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[QUOTE=Wage;n3766629]Wasn't all this the same stuff we heard when we wasted a lotto pick on Duarte? How he's the most Pacers pick ever and a perfect fit and a culture guy? Now 2 years later we are wasting another 1st on a guy in Shephard that is supposed to be his replacement. Hopefully this years lotto pick goes better.[/QUOTE]
It's possible but I honestly don't remember that stuff being said about Duarte. I was personally impressed with the tough route he took to get into the league but I don't remember talking about culture. I wasn't even bought into it being all that important until last summer.Comment
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