The Rules of Pacers Digest

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Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.

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Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.

Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

Rule #2

If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
Title of the Article
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Rule #6

We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.

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Rule #7

Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

Rule #8

We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

Rule #9

Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.

Rule #10

We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.

Rule #11

Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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  • Your favorite Pacers moment

    OK - let's step away from all the 'other stuff' going on and talk basketball.

    What's you favorite Pacers moment ??

    Mine - Smits hitting that shot to beat Orlando in the playoffs.

    Great play by Brown and well executed by the team. The look on Smits after hitting that shot is just pure joy.

    Your moment ??

  • #2
    Originally posted by PacerDude View Post
    OK - let's step away from all the 'other stuff' going on and talk basketball.

    What's you favorite Pacers moment ??

    Mine - Smits hitting that shot to beat Orlando in the playoffs.

    Great play by Brown and well executed by the team. The look on Smits after hitting that shot is just pure joy.

    Your moment ??
    This is my choice also. The last 2 minutes of that game were the best basketball ever. Penny and Reggie showing who they were. Ric finishing it off. Derrick McKey even smiling after the shot. The whole atmosphere leading up to that game was fantastic. You could really feel the energy in the building the whole time.


    • #3
      Game #7 of the 1995 ECF against the New York Knicks. Ding, dong, the witch is dead. The Pacers overcame their nemesis, the New York Knicks, on their court.


      • #4
        Mine is the 4th quarter in game 5 vs the Knicks in ‘94, when Reggie went for 25 in the 4th.

        My favorite in person was the span between Hibbert’s block of Melo and then Lance going off to beat the Knicks, game 6 of ‘13.


        • #5
          Originally posted by imawhat View Post
          Mine is the 4th quarter in game 5 vs the Knicks in ‘94, when Reggie went for 25 in the 4th.

          My favorite in person was the span between Hibbert’s block of Melo and then Lance going off to beat the Knicks, game 6 of ‘13.
          The 8 points in 9 seconds is one of those times that I remember where I was when it happened. Saw it on TV.

          Kind of similar was Kirk Gibson's home run in the 1988 world series. Both unforgettable moments in sports.


          • #6
            when reggie miller shove jograd and shoot a three pointer and the camera focus on larry bird and not reacting to that play just stone cold.

            while reggie keeps on spinning spinning in celebration.

            that series made the bulls so vulenerable. jordan intimidated by Larry Bird.
            Last edited by edc; 03-14-2020, 02:11 PM.


            • #7

              I know that this wasn't as dramatic as some other game winners and it certainly didn't have the built up playoff hype of the Reggie vs Knicks stuff. But for me this was the moment we went from being a mediocre team who was always just first round fodder to a team that could win a playoff series, in fact that very year we went to ECF finals. That was the moment right there that propelled those 90's teams and a lot of what if's come from that game. What if he missed? Would those 90's teams have been as good? Would we have won that series? Would Shaq not have lost confidence?

              But he hit it and the rest is Pacers history.

              Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13


              • #8
                Did not win a game or hit a great shot but I still find Chuck Person punting the ball twice into the stands in Chicago
                Worth a few laughs



                • #9
                  1970 when Roger Brown closed out the Stars in the finals with 53, 39 and 45 to win the first Pacers Championship. BTW some guy named Daniels chipped in with 27 rebounds in two different games. (yes I know I live in the past. LOL)


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BobbyMac View Post
                    1970 when Roger Brown closed out the Stars in the finals with 53, 39 and 45 to win the first Pacers Championship. BTW some guy named Daniels chipped in with 27 rebounds in two different games. (yes I know I live in the past. LOL)
                    I watched the documentary on Roger Brown. He must have been an incredible scorer


                    • #11
                      My favorite moment is what I've always felt is the most underrated Pacers win ever - which is strange because it's the only game to propell us into the NBA Finals: Game 6 of the 2000 ECF's at MSG.

                      The clips of Reggie's performances at The Garden are usually of the 25 4th quarter points in 1994 or the 8 points in 8 seconds in 1995, but his performance in Game 6 2000 was just as legendary: 34 points - 17 of them in the 4th quarter - to finally get the Pacers into The Finals. That avenged the dreadful Game 6 loss that we had there the prior year when the 8 seeded Knicks eliminated us to go to The Finals. It was awesome in 2000 to avenge that brutal 1999 series. In 1999, we shockingly lost two home games at MSA. So much gets made of that LJ 4 point play in Game 3, but the Pacers actually came back and tied the series in Game 4. We lost that series in Game 5 when the Knicks beat us at MSA. However, in 2000 we won all three games at the new Fieldhouse and clinched the series in Game 6 at MSG. Beautiful moment.
                      Last edited by Sollozzo; 03-15-2020, 10:56 AM.


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Peck View Post

                        But he hit it and the rest is Pacers history.
                        That was big. Just sucks that the Magic got so great so quickly the next year. We go from sweeping them in 1994 to losing a 7 game series to them in 1995 after we finally slayed the Knicks. Those 1994 and 1995 Pacers teams were absolutely Finals quality. Just two brutal 7 game ECF's losses back to back.


                        • #13
                          Domas signing the extension ....Pacers never won NBA title....Domas will make it happen ....and will become the best Pacer season 22/13/7 ...ALL NBA 15 triple doubles and 82 double doubles....NBA Champions in 3 years time.


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by owl View Post

                            I watched the documentary on Roger Brown. He must have been an incredible scorer
                            He was. My memory of watching Roger Brown is that he was hitting buckets from all over the floor. I only went to a few games as a young child but what struck me is that the small guy (Raja) looked to be dominating rather than the giant guys. I was confused because guys like Mel Daniels were quite good but were not doing most of the scoring. I guess I didn't understand much at the time and just expected the tall guys to be the best.


                            • #15

                              Simply - it was a game which turned me into pacers fan.
                              Friends invited me into NBA playoffs night party. Most of them were Jordan fans and i didn't had an opinion of whom to support as i was not an NBA fan.
                              I tried to refuse as i had some ****** exam (concurrent programming) tomorrow and i had to prepare.
                              But due to my weak will i decided to go for one hour.
                              In the beginning it was fun because of the party, later some friends left, some friends fell asleep in a place and i left alone awake.
                              And i couldn't help myself and leave - the game was so cool, so intense, so heroic. It felt like Indiana team are underdogs and i wanted them to win so badly.
                              It ended around 7 o'clock in a morning (how - you see in video).
                              I went directly to exam from that party. And what a fate - the exam was postponed because the lecturer for whatever reason couldn't come to exam
                              From that time i saw hundreds of games if not more, but that game still in my memory.
                              I'm really sorry because of my english (which is my 3-4 language) and I really appreciate Your patience. I hope this board will make me better