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Espn has a couple of insider articles that sound like they might be worth reading. One is the Easter conference pecking order and it looks like another article on ranking the East by roster construction. If anyone with insider could paste these it might make for some discussion. I'm interested to see their take on our roster changes.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/13384618/nba-cleveland-cavaliers-alone-atop-eastern-conference-title-contenders

[cdash]

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/13384618/nba-cleveland-cavaliers-alone-atop-eastern-conference-title-contenders

With the calendar turning to August and the NBA's offseason hitting its quiet period, let's take a first look at how the league will shake out after a busy summer. Starting Thursday with the Eastern Conference and wrapping up Friday with the West, I'll take a look at the tiers in each respective conference based on where teams stand entering the 2015-16 season.

Tier 1: Championship contenders

Cleveland Cavaliers


With J.R. Smith and Tristan Thompson as yet unsigned, there's still work for the Cavaliers to do. Even without those players, Cleveland would still be the heavy favorite to win the Eastern Conference. With them, the Cavaliers would have a chance to be more competitive if they return to the NBA Finals. Given the quality of the Western Conference's top teams, Cleveland's position as championship favorites by Las Vegas linesmakers is perhaps a bit of a stretch, but certainly the Cavaliers have the best odds of reaching the Finals by a wide margin.


Tier 2: Championship hopefuls

None.

The defining feature of this season's Eastern Conference is the large gap between Cleveland and the rest of the conference. While some other challenger will inevitably rise from the pack, there's no other team that appears certain to win 50-plus games.

Tier 3: Likely playoff teams

Atlanta Hawks


While the Hawks won 60 games a season ago, several factors are working against a repeat. Atlanta's point differential (plus-5.4 ppg) was more typical of a 55-win team, and teams like the Hawks, who have improved their record by at least 20 games from one season to the next, have regressed two wins the following season. Add in the loss of starting forward DeMarre Carroll, and Atlanta is likely to return to the 45-50 win range the team has occupied much of the past decade.


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Boston Celtics


Consider the Celtics a sleeper to claim home-court advantage and/or win a playoff series. Boston had the East's second-best record (20-11, .645) and fourth-best point differential (plus-2.9 PPG) after acquiring Isaiah Thomas at the trade deadline. While the Celtics didn't land a star this summer, the addition of veteran Amir Johnson strengthens their biggest weakness, interior defense.

Chicago Bulls


Because of their track record and because they battled a weakened Cleveland team evenly through the first four games of their playoff series, the Bulls' 2014-15 season seemed better than it was. Chicago won 50 games with a slightly weaker point differential (plus-3.0) than that would generally imply. If Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah are healthier, the Bulls could bounce back, but otherwise they are counting on the arrival of Fred Hoiberg to lift them back into serious contention after bringing back a largely similar cast.

Miami Heat


No team in the NBA has a wider range of realistic outcomes in 2015-16 than the Heat. With a stacked starting lineup featuring Goran Dragic, Dwyane Wade, Luol Deng, Chris Bosh and Hassan Whiteside -- all but Whiteside having either been an All-Star or All-NBA player in the past three seasons -- Miami could emerge as the biggest threat to the Cavaliers. But if Wade is plagued by injuries and Whiteside is unable to produce consistently, it's not inconceivable that Miami could end up in the lottery again.

Toronto Raptors


After a fast start to 2014-15 ended in a disappointing first-round sweep, the Raptors remade their roster in a more defensive mold over the summer. Replacing Greivis Vasquez and Lou Williams with DeMarre Carroll and Cory Joseph should get the Raptors closer to how they played in 2013-14, when the team ranked ninth on a per-possession basis at both ends of the floor before slipping to 23rd in defensive rating last season.

Washington Wizards


The loss of Paul Pierce will make it difficult for the Wizards to build on a playoff run that depended heavily on Pierce's big shots and ability to wreak havoc as a small-ball power forward. Getting Jared Dudley for a heavily-protected second-round pick was a decent save for Washington, but Dudley is coming off back surgery. And despite the presence of young stars John Wall and Bradley Beal, the Wizards have one of the league's oldest rosters. So expect another season in the middle of the East pack.

Tier 4: Playoff hopefuls

Charlotte Hornets


There's a realistic chance this is the best Charlotte team since the NBA returned to the Queen City via expansion in 2004-05. Improved shooting with the arrival of Nicolas Batum, Spencer Hawes and Frank Kaminsky should help the Hornets to respectability on offense. Given Charlotte has had a top-10 defense both seasons under Steve Clifford, that should be enough to get the Hornets back to the playoffs -- and maybe even win a game this time.

Detroit Pistons


After their disastrous 5-23 start, the Pistons went 27-27 the rest of the season. And they could have been better. Having added Reggie Jackson at the trade deadline, Detroit went 11-17 in the second half despite a dead-even point differential. With the addition of Ersan Ilyasova, the Pistons seem better constructed around their core of Jackson and center Andre Drummond.

Indiana Pacers


It's tough to envision a Pacers team playing small ball without Roy Hibbert in the middle, the experiment Indiana has undertaken with its offseason moves. With better spacing around improved shot creation from the likes of Monta Ellis and Rodney Stuckey, this could be the best Pacers offense in years. But it's unclear whether Indiana can hold up defensively with severely compromised rim protection.

Milwaukee Bucks


While the Bucks are building an intriguing young core, there are reasons to believe they might take a slight step backward in 2015-16 despite the addition of Greg Monroe. After all, Milwaukee made an even bigger leap than Atlanta, winning 26 more games than 2013-14. And of the four full-season Bucks with the best net ratings on the court last season per NBA.com/stats, only Khris Middleton returns. (Dudley, Ilyasova and Zaza Pachulia were the others.)

Tier 5: Playoff long shots


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New York Knicks


The Knicks should be improved from last season solely by virtue of having NBA-caliber players throughout their rotation, led by a healthy Carmelo Anthony. Still, New York hasn't done nearly enough to close the gap on the playoff contenders. Derrick Williams isn't a credible starting power forward, and Arron Afflalo's reputation dramatically outstripped his performance last season. Only at center have the Knicks found an average starter in free agency with Robin Lopez.

Orlando Magic


Orlando is probably still a season away from making real noise in the Eastern Conference. New head coach Scott Skiles' experience in his previous stop with Milwaukee might offer a guide. The Bucks improved by eight wins in Skiles' first season at the helm, almost entirely at the defensive end, but it wasn't until the second season that Skiles put together a top-five defense and got Milwaukee in the playoffs.

Tier 6: Likely lottery teams

Brooklyn Nets


The Nets' second-half surge was something of a mirage. While Brooklyn went 17-13 after adding Thaddeus Young, the team was outscored by 0.9 points per game. And that was with Deron Williams at point guard. The Nets outscored opponents by 1.6 points per 100 possessions with Williams on the court during the second half, per NBA.com/stats. Brooklyn was minus-6.0 points per 100 possessions after the break with replacement Jarrett Jack on the court. Gulp.

Philadelphia 76ers


Philadelphia probably belongs in a tier of its own. The Sixers don't look much closer to competing with Joel Embiid likely out for the season and no veteran additions in free agency. Philadelphia should have better shooting with the arrival of Nik Stauskas and a full season of Isaiah Canaan, and Jahlil Okafor gives them an offensive anchor. But the Sixers' move up the standings is probably a season away.

Nothing earth shattering in there.

[Ryan]

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to the guys putting me on blast in the "we have a young roster thread"...

check out what an unbiased opinion of the Celtics looks like.

go ahead.. I'll wait

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Thanks for posting cdash. Is the roster construction article the same article?

[Really?]

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Question how did we do last year with Roy in the games and out of the games, with respect to defense?

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Question how did we do last year with Roy in the games and out of the games, with respect to defense?

Last year really doesn't matter to me since PG and the rest if the core weren't healthy. I know that Roy and that core were the best defensive team in the NBA. I believe that Roy and Paul have a synergy on defense that was special. We will take a huge step back on defense this year as compared to what we would have had with Roy and Paul.

[Kstat]

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Question how did we do last year with Roy in the games and out of the games, with respect to defense?

That would be a more relevant question if the Pacers were using the exact same defensive scheme and the exact same roster minus roy. Neither applies here.

[BenR1990]

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The only thing that stuck out for me was the thought of Miwaukee somehow regressing. I don't see that happening.

[PacersPride]

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to the guys putting me on blast in the "we have a young roster thread"...

check out what an unbiased opinion of the Celtics looks like.

go ahead.. I'll wait

while you wait enjoy this thread.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?107201-Eastern-Conference-Rankings/page7&highlight=

i hyped the celtics, they got a deep and very young roster with a brilliant young coach. sorta in the same position as us, one Franchise player away from contender status.

[BlueCollarColts]

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to the guys putting me on blast in the "we have a young roster thread"...

check out what an unbiased opinion of the Celtics looks like.

go ahead.. I'll wait

Ok.... So pre-season predictions make you right? Nice job.

I think a lot of national analysts underrate us because they didn't see us play last year so they don't know how poor David and Roy were at times so they overrate how much we lost.

[Pacersalltheway10]

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Once again, another instance in which Paul ****ing George is ignored.

[Ryan]

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Ok.... So pre-season predictions make you right? Nice job.

I think a lot of national analysts underrate us because they didn't see us play last year so they don't know how poor David and Roy were at times so they overrate how much we lost.

because the celtics were national darlings

[Bball]

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Or maybe they rate us correctly, but for the wrong reasons. I agree though, West and Roy weren't the West and Roy of 3 seasons ago in the ECF's. And West wasn't even the West of the previous ECF. And Roy's principal of verticality, rim protection monster legend has been more myth than reality for a while.

So changes were needed and maybe the fruit from those changes won't be seen immediately, but I think some ratings are based on past history and myths more than any reality of where the Pacers would've actually been with West and Roy at this point in time and moving forward. And like you said, the national media weren't exactly paying close attention to the Pacers last season.

[BornIndy]

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Pacers will be back. Fuxk Cleveland

[BlueCollarColts]

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because the celtics were national darlings

Different situation man, who did the Celtics lose? No one. We are being docked wins because of a couple guys we lost who honestly weren't that good.