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2014 Indiana Fever Thread

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  • #91
    Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

    Originally posted by Kuq_e_Zi91 View Post
    (Anyone else get really excited when they see new posts in this thread? No one ever comes in here so seeing new posts is like )

    Assuming the Fever make the playoffs, there will probably be a lot more posts then. During the 2012 Finals it was like an actual game thread.


    During Tuesday night's game, Rebecca Lobo was asked what team she felt had the best chance of getting the 2 seed in the East. She picked Chicago. I know Delle Donne being out has really hurt them, but she must be watching a different Sky team. They are seriously a mess right now.

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    • #92
      Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

      Originally posted by LuckSwagger View Post
      During Tuesday night's game, Rebecca Lobo was asked what team she felt had the best chance of getting the 2 seed in the East. She picked Chicago. I know Delle Donne being out has really hurt them, but she must be watching a different Sky team. They are seriously a mess right now.
      Yeah, that was puzzling. I think she was betting on EDD returning, but right now I don't know how likely that is since the symptoms can be so unpredictable. Piph, to me, doesn't even look like she wants to be there. She's in neutral at best. Sylvia Fowles is an absolute monster but she doesn't have any help. I think if anyone can overtake the Fever for the 2nd spot, it'll be Connecticut.
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      • #93
        Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

        Originally posted by LuckSwagger View Post
        Assuming the Fever make the playoffs, there will probably be a lot more posts then. During the 2012 Finals it was like an actual game thread.


        During Tuesday night's game, Rebecca Lobo was asked what team she felt had the best chance of getting the 2 seed in the East. She picked Chicago. I know Delle Donne being out has really hurt them, but she must be watching a different Sky team. They are seriously a mess right now.
        Yea, she must think EDD will be back. I wouldn't bet against Indiana. Heck, as good as Atlanta is, it wouldn't even surprise me if Indy beat Atlanta in the ECF.

        Granted, whichever team wins that just wins the right to get slaughtered by Minny or Phoenix.

        BTW. Glad someone watched that. DT and Catch are an interesting pair. The funny thing is, despite being on a different team and a different college, those two (and Bird) have sort of become a trio of a generation of women's bball players because of Team USA. It seems like they all want to go one more round together on Team USA. (I doubt very much Geno would still be the coach if Diana and Sue weren't planning to be a part of the team.)

        Imagine the basketball player you could create if you could combine DT and Catch. Whatever flaw one has is the other's strength.

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        • #94
          Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

          Originally posted by Sookie View Post
          Yea, she must think EDD will be back. I wouldn't bet against Indiana. Heck, as good as Atlanta is, it wouldn't even surprise me if Indy beat Atlanta in the ECF.

          Granted, whichever team wins that just wins the right to get slaughtered by Minny or Phoenix.
          I don't know, if Indiana beats Minnesota once there in a prospective Finals matchup, BLF will get downright raucous and I'm pretty sure there will be band of psychopaths behind the Minnesota bench raising hell with CHHHHHHHERRRRRRRRYYYYYYYLLLLLLLLL again.....
          "Nobody wants to play against Tyler Hansbrough NO BODY!" ~ Frank Vogel

          "And David put his hand in the bag and took out a stone and slung it. And it struck the Philistine on the head and he fell to the ground. Amen. "

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          • #95
            Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

            Originally posted by Sookie View Post
            Granted, whichever team wins that just wins the right to get slaughtered by Minny or Phoenix.

            BTW. Glad someone watched that. DT and Catch are an interesting pair. The funny thing is, despite being on a different team and a different college, those two (and Bird) have sort of become a trio of a generation of women's bball players because of Team USA. It seems like they all want to go one more round together on Team USA. (I doubt very much Geno would still be the coach if Diana and Sue weren't planning to be a part of the team.)

            Imagine the basketball player you could create if you could combine DT and Catch. Whatever flaw one has is the other's strength.
            Minny looks as beatable as ever in this Maya-Mone-Whalen era. Seimone's knee seems like a chronic, nagging thing. I don't know how she'll hold up in a potential WCF against Phx, but then again, in a three game series... you know she'll tough it out and she might just get hot. As great as Maya is, I think Taurasi can go shot for shot with her in the big games. She loves those moments. And I think Phx is deeper this year with Penny looking revitalized and Griner making huge strides. If the Fever can't win it, and if Sue can't win it (much less make the playoffs first), watching DT win another one would be pure joy.

            DT and Catch feel like completely different personalities to me. I don't know how well they would get along outside of basketball or without basketball to unite them. But they can respect each other because they share this unrivaled passion for the game, this hunger to be the best and they both leave it all on the court. It'll be a sad day when these two (plus Sue) hang it up...
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            • #96
              Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

              Originally posted by Kuq_e_Zi91 View Post
              Minny looks as beatable as ever in this Maya-Mone-Whalen era. Seimone's knee seems like a chronic, nagging thing. I don't know how she'll hold up in a potential WCF against Phx, but then again, in a three game series... you know she'll tough it out and she might just get hot. As great as Maya is, I think Taurasi can go shot for shot with her in the big games. She loves those moments. And I think Phx is deeper this year with Penny looking revitalized and Griner making huge strides. If the Fever can't win it, and if Sue can't win it (much less make the playoffs first), watching DT win another one would be pure joy.

              DT and Catch feel like completely different personalities to me. I don't know how well they would get along outside of basketball or without basketball to unite them. But they can respect each other because they share this unrivaled passion for the game, this hunger to be the best and they both leave it all on the court. It'll be a sad day when these two (plus Sue) hang it up...
              Yea, to be honest, I think it's Phoenix's to lose this season. (And probably until DT and Penny start showing their age.) With Griner becoming the best center in the league, it's just lethal to have that with DT. And then you have Penny playing close to what she did before her knee injuries, and Dupree is as smooth as can be. Plus, having Erin coming off the bench will be huge in the playoffs, IMO. She's shown she can be huge. Offensively, this team is playing like The Spurs with the ball movement, player movement, and shooting.

              But I do agree that if Minny some how gets past Phoenix, then they can be beaten. But I'd have to imagine that if they get past Phoenix, they'd look a lot less beatable.

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              • #97
                Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

                I think the WNBA all star game is more entertaining than the NBA all star game.

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                • #98
                  Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

                  Originally posted by shags View Post
                  I think the WNBA all star game is more entertaining than the NBA all star game.
                  The second half was fantastic. I usually root for the West, but Shoni had me rooting for her today. Her and Skylar were fantastic.

                  It was also nice to see Sue, Katie, and Tamika all play well.

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                  • #99
                    Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

                    Kind of funny that the East won when everyone and their brother on RebKell acts like the East is a JV conference compared to the West.


                    Anyone else breathe a sigh of relief every year when this game ends and Catchings is uninjured? I know that nobody plays defense in All-Star games, but I'm always afraid she's going to land awkwardly or blow out a knee on a drive to the hoop. She's had horrible luck with injuries over the years and at the worst possible times.

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                    • Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

                      Originally posted by Sookie View Post

                      Granted, whichever team wins that just wins the right to get slaughtered by Minny or Phoenix.
                      I think you meant to say, if Atlanta wins they'd get slaughtered by Minnesota or Phoenix. The Fever actually look like they belong in the Finals when they get there. Atlanta is 0-9 in three appearances.

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                      • Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

                        I think the West just has so much offensive fire power that people assume that they'll win. I mean, Shoni and Latta were going up against Sue Bird and Skylar Diggins.. But every year it's a lot closer than expected. Probably because the East has far better defensive players.

                        And that's very true, Indiana would likely keep it close. They've got a style of play that allows them to stay in games. It seems to especially bother Minny. (Seattle plays a similar style, and that also bothers The Lynx.) But I'll still say, it's Phoenix's to lose this season. They play like the Spurs..except they are younger.

                        Also, I'm gonna miss Dunn. She's a far better coach than she's ever given credit for. One of the few elite coaches in the WNBA.

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                        • Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

                          I thought the West would win too. They had so much talent on that roster, but we didn't really see much from some of their biggest names, like Candace or DT. And of course... Shoni just lit em up. My goodness, she was unreal. Pulling up from anywhere, fade to the left, fade to the right, no look passes, spinning in mid-air off the glass. Just ridiculous. Obviously she won't have as much freedom in real games but she'll be so much fun to watch over the years.

                          I actually found the first ever WNBA All Star game on YouTube a couple days ago. To watch that, and then to watch the game tonight, it's awesome to see how the game has evolved over the past 15 years and how players themselves have gotten stronger, faster and more athletic. I can only imagine where we'll be another 15 years from now, but I hope that as the women's game gains notoriety and as the players evolve that they don't lose their passion for the game and the fundamentals that make a lot of them great all-around players.
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                          • Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

                            Originally posted by Kuq_e_Zi91 View Post
                            I thought the West would win too. They had so much talent on that roster, but we didn't really see much from some of their biggest names, like Candace or DT.
                            I felt like Candace and DT were too busy making dinner plans to play the game. (It also wouldn't surprise me if both of their coaches asked to rest them. I noticed Whalen didn't get many minutes either.)

                            Shoni was so fantastic. She's so much fun to watch. I feel like she's a less disciplined 5'4 DT.

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                            • Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

                              2nd half of the game and overtime was really awesome... It was full of excitement, twist and turns... I think that is how All-Star games should be, glad that I tuned in to it.

                              Sidenote I knew that Tamika would take any last shot no matter how good anyone was out there or how injured she had been lately, really taking over like a vet.

                              Also interesting thing I think we would have tried to draft Shoni instead of Natalie if she would have dropped one more spot to us, I really liked the way she played in college, it will be interesting to see what happens now in Atlanta, first thing is assuming her PT increases, might still be a little while before she starts though.
                              Why so SERIOUS

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                              • Re: 2014 Indiana Fever Thread

                                Originally posted by Sookie View Post
                                I felt like Candace and DT were too busy making dinner plans to play the game. (It also wouldn't surprise me if both of their coaches asked to rest them. I noticed Whalen didn't get many minutes either.)

                                Shoni was so fantastic. She's so much fun to watch. I feel like she's a less disciplined 5'4 DT.
                                Haha, I like that comparison. You could also say she's like a Ticha Penicheiro with a jump shot.
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