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  • Since86
    Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 27818

    Re: Penn State accusations

    Originally posted by Sandman21
    Yes, lets completely destroy the Happy Valley economy for 15 years because of something they probably didn't know was happening and deprive players of scholarships to get educations again because of something they more than likely had no idea was going about. Soon the former President and AD will be rotting in jail with Sandusky. Paterno's legacy is as dead as he is. For ALL intensive purposes, what Penn State got in much more devastating than what SMU got, and look at how pathetic that program has really been since that ruling.

    As for the $200 mill in donations, good for Penn State, even BETTER for the soon to come lawsuits against Penn State by the victims of Sandusky. The 60m penalty is just the TIP of that iceberg.
    Yeah, let's cost thousands of people their jobs because the executives at Enron broke the law. The employees shouldn't be punished for their bosses crimes. They should be able to keep their jobs, with no boss, with no comany to actually produce work for. We cannot have punishments that affect other people. It's just not fair. /endrant

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    • Sandman21
      SABONIS! :(
      • Jul 2007
      • 8556

      Re: Penn State accusations

      A 15 year death penalty is just overkill when those who actually committed the crime and covered it up are either dead or will die broke in prison.

      Look, I wanted the book thrown at Penn State too, but what they got was probably the worst punishment that could reasonably be given out by the NCAA. Remember, the government is still lurking out there on this too.

      Besides, Penn State is going to NEED the football program revenue not already going to victim advocacy groups in order to pay for the lawsuits that are inbound. Every last dime of it.
      "Nobody wants to play against Tyler Hansbrough NO BODY!" ~ Frank Vogel

      "And David put his hand in the bag and took out a stone and slung it. And it struck the Philistine on the head and he fell to the ground. Amen. "

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      • Since86
        Member
        • Dec 2004
        • 27818

        Re: Penn State accusations

        Penn St raised 208MILLION dollars last year alone.
        Penn State received more than $208 million in donations for the fiscal year that just ended, the second-highest total in university history despite the upheaval after the arrest of Jerry Sandusky on child sex abuse charges.


        I think they'll be able to scrap through.
        Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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        • Sandman21
          SABONIS! :(
          • Jul 2007
          • 8556

          Re: Penn State accusations

          And they will need EVERY. LAST. DIME. of that and athletics revenue.
          "Nobody wants to play against Tyler Hansbrough NO BODY!" ~ Frank Vogel

          "And David put his hand in the bag and took out a stone and slung it. And it struck the Philistine on the head and he fell to the ground. Amen. "

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          • Since86
            Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 27818

            Re: Penn State accusations

            That's kinda the point. Punishments are supposed to be harsh.
            Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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            • vapacersfan
              Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 8614

              Re: Penn State accusations

              I am pulling these numbers out of my ***, but I think each victim gets 100M, I honestly think we are looking at BILLIONS in lawsuits.

              One of my coworkers thinks itll be more like 10M per, either way they are just to have to pony up.

              And this is only with civil suits, this doesnt take into account the fines from the DOJ

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              • Sandman21
                SABONIS! :(
                • Jul 2007
                • 8556

                Re: Penn State accusations

                Originally posted by Since86
                That's kinda the point. Punishments are supposed to be harsh.
                What the NCAA handed down was harsh, and I agree with it. A 15 year Death Penalty is OVERKILL.
                "Nobody wants to play against Tyler Hansbrough NO BODY!" ~ Frank Vogel

                "And David put his hand in the bag and took out a stone and slung it. And it struck the Philistine on the head and he fell to the ground. Amen. "

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                • Kstat
                  Rebound King
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 34207

                  Re: Penn State accusations

                  This is not the death penalty. They can still play football. If you think that's overkill, that's not their fault.

                  It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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                  • Sandman21
                    SABONIS! :(
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8556

                    Re: Penn State accusations

                    Originally posted by Kstat
                    This is not the death penalty.
                    They will be fighting IU for bottom-feeder status in Big 10 football shortly, and they will be for quite awhile. I'd argue the SMU Death Penalty would have been more merciful for the NCAA to issue.
                    "Nobody wants to play against Tyler Hansbrough NO BODY!" ~ Frank Vogel

                    "And David put his hand in the bag and took out a stone and slung it. And it struck the Philistine on the head and he fell to the ground. Amen. "

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                    • Kstat
                      Rebound King
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 34207

                      Originally posted by Sandman21
                      They will be fighting IU for bottom-feeder status in Big 10 football shortly, and they will be for quite awhile. I'd argue the SMU Death Penalty would have been more merciful for the NCAA to issue.
                      I agree. That doesn't change the fact that this isn't the death penalty.

                      It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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                      Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
                      NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

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                      • Sandman21
                        SABONIS! :(
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8556

                        Re: Penn State accusations

                        Its as close as I think we're ever going to get to an SMU Death Penalty ever again. It's the NCAA atomic bomb - After they used it on SMU, the results were so horrifying that it hasn't been used on a D1 program since.

                        Although, if Penn State had balked at what the NCAA had offered them penalty-wise, I think they may very well have received the SMU hammer.

                        "Pay the $60 million dollar fine, or sit for three years!"
                        Last edited by Sandman21; 07-25-2012, 02:33 PM.
                        "Nobody wants to play against Tyler Hansbrough NO BODY!" ~ Frank Vogel

                        "And David put his hand in the bag and took out a stone and slung it. And it struck the Philistine on the head and he fell to the ground. Amen. "

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                        • Trader Joe
                          DIET COKE!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 46892

                          Re: Penn State accusations

                          The 60 million dollar fine is nothing to them, it is pocket change. Why would Penn State have balked at it at all?


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                          • Blackhawk4
                            Naptown Born and Raised
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 180

                            Originally posted by Trader Joe
                            It took place on University grounds, heck in Penn State locker rooms. We have allegations that some of these boys were taken to Penn State bowl games and other events using school money. How does this not apply to the NCAA?
                            It's simple. The ncaa is in no way qualified to handle a situation like this. This is about a federal crime being committed and people hiding it. Why they hid it doesn't matter. The fact they hid it is what matters. The ncaa does not mess with crimes of rape sexual abuse and the hiding of sexual abuse. This is a matter for the feds to handle. The feds are qualified to handle this situation not the ncaa. The ncaa, and big Ten and Penn State helped turn this into a football issues with these sanctions. They went to punishing the football program because they belive it became bigger than it should have. You think the judge cared about that when Sandusky was on trial for 40+ counts? This is about putting those people behind bars where they belong but the ncaa helped turn it into a football issue. Do you think the victims and their families care about the sanctions or those who committed the else horrible federal crimes behind bars?

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                            • Kstat
                              Rebound King
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 34207

                              Re: Penn State accusations

                              Actually, Joe Paterno made this a football issue when he and the people above him chose to cover this up to spare the reputation of their football program.

                              This was a crime that used the Penn State football program as a shield. The football program itself is an accomplice in these matters.

                              It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

                              Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
                              Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
                              NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

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                              • vapacersfan
                                Member
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 8614

                                Re: Penn State accusations

                                WOW

                                If Penn State had not accepted the package of NCAA sanctions announced Monday, the Nittany Lions faced a historic death penalty of four years, university president Rodney Erickson told "Outside the Lines."

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