2020-21 Indiana Athletics thread

[Bball]

TJD IS STAYING FOR A JUNIOR YEAR. MIKE WOODSON COME HERE AND GIVE ME A SMOOCH

I think this was a big score for Woodson. Hopefully a key piece to convincing others to stay... and maybe bringing in a missing piece or two.

I'd say a 3 point shooter, but honestly, I think just running an offense that actually puts some value on 3's, and looks to GET 3's will help the shooting. And that will give TJD more room to work. I'd think Franklin would be a good keeper.
Lander looked to be in a little over his head last season, but his age and a better system for him could change that.

[Bball]

Porter Moser to Oklahoma

[Trader Joe]

North Carolina is literally just hiring one of Roy's assistants and former ESPN college basketball analyst, Hubert Davis.

[Trader Joe]

Lol right after that news breaks that Dane Fife is coming home. Indiana vs Everybody it is then

[Sollozzo]

North Carolina is literally just hiring one of Roy's assistants and former ESPN college basketball analyst, Hubert Davis.

Yeah I think there is a lot of weight to what you were saying. If you’re comfortable at a place like Baylor, Texas Tech, Alabama, etc...then there’s not much incentive to leave if you build up a nice program and are paid well. Plus those places don’t have the insane expectations and are just grateful for some nice seasons here and there.

[Trader Joe]

Yeah I think there is a lot of weight to what you were saying. If you’re comfortable at a place like Baylor, Texas Tech, Alabama, etc...then there’s not much incentive to leave if you build up a nice program and are paid well. Plus those places don’t have the insane expectations and are just grateful for some nice seasons here and there.

Right and Chris Beard only left Tech because Texas is his alma mater and also has more money to throw around than god

[Trader Joe]

I mean it says a lot that IU just got THE IU guy assistant to leave Michigan State and come home to be an assistant here. Fife has a better or comparable resume than Hubert Davis,

[Bball]

Woodson bringing in Dane Fife, contacting Larry Brown, and IU also hiring Thad Matta has me feeling better about this.
A lot of people thought Fife was the coach in waiting at MSU. Now, I suppose he's the coach in waiting at IU.
But that said, nothing would really keep MSU from hiring him back if that was really the case and Izzo was to decide to retire before Woodson.

[Trader Joe]

Woodson bringing in Dane Fife, contacting Larry Brown, and IU also hiring Thad Matta has me feeling better about this.
A lot of people thought Fife was the coach in waiting at MSU. Now, I suppose he's the coach in waiting at IU.
But that said, nothing would really keep MSU from hiring him back if that was really the case and Izzo was to decide to retire before Woodson.

No, no, no, you don't get to be positive now. I'm weridly convinced your negativity about this is fueling all this good news. lol

[Bball]

I really started paying attention to Baylor in the tournament... especially with the IU job opening in mind. I watched them dismantle WI and they definitely had my attention. They embarrassed Houston. It's not like Houston didn't belong in the Final Four either.
I'm pretty sure a lot of Indiana people refused to take Houston seriously because Sampson was coach and they aren't quite ready to admit what a really good coach he is, regardless of the IU situation and their feelings about that.

But, I hadn't paid as much attention Gonzaga... and I was really wondering why people were thinking Gonzaga had this.

Even after UCLA gave Gonzaga all they could handle, it seemed people were still picking Gonzaga as almost a done deal.

Not just because UCLA almost beat Gonzaga, but because to me, Baylor just looked THAT good, I was having a hard time seeing how this was going to be anything but a hard game for Gonzaga. I kept thinking "What am I missing here? Why are some many picking against Baylor?"

Apparently, I wasn't missing anything.

[Trader Joe]

I really started paying attention to Baylor in the tournament... especially with the IU job opening in mind. I watched them dismantle WI and they definitely had my attention. They embarrassed Houston. It's not like Houston didn't belong in the Final Four either.
I'm pretty sure a lot of Indiana people refused to take Houston seriously because Sampson was coach and they aren't quite ready to admit what a really good coach he is, regardless of the IU situation and their feelings about that.

But, I hadn't paid as much attention Gonzaga... and I was really wondering why people were thinking Gonzaga had this.

Even after UCLA gave Gonzaga all they could handle, it seemed people were still picking Gonzaga as almost a done deal.

Not just because UCLA almost beat Gonzaga, but because to me, Baylor just looked THAT good, I was having a hard time seeing how this was going to be anything but a hard game for Gonzaga. I kept thinking "What am I missing here? Why are some many picking against Baylor?"

Apparently, I wasn't missing anything.

People really wanted Gonzaga to go wire to wire number 1 and also there was this sense of not this year then when with Gonzaga.

I honestly think Gonzaga presents an interesting problem to the NCAA tourney right now. Did you know that in the last 20 years Gonzaga has only beaten one team seeded 3 or higher in the tournament and that was no. 3 Utah in 2016?

Why is this an issue? Well now that Gonzaga has escaped their mid major label and has been free of it for a while tbh, they get quite a big seeding boost just by being in the WCC and mopping up those teams. We have made every other mid major that wins consistently and escapes the label switch conferences to really see their benefits and for some reason Gonzaga has gotten away with not doing it mostly because they are on the west coast.

[graphic-er]

I have to say, I'm not sure why any program would want Larry Brown around at this stage in his career and life. 10 years ago? Sure but at 80 years old? He is just as likely to alienate and **** people off with personality than he is to help.

Dane Fife just secured his spot to be IU's next head coach in about 5-6 years when Woody decides to hang it up. Assuming it all goes well.

[Bball]

I have to say, I'm not sure why any program would want Larry Brown around at this stage in his career and life. 10 years ago? Sure but at 80 years old? He is just as likely to alienate and **** people off with personality than he is to help.

Dane Fife just secured his spot to be IU's next head coach in about 5-6 years when Woody decides to hang it up. Assuming it all goes well.

AFAIK it would be as a consultant and not a bench and traveling presence. So, more input for a 63 year old rookie head coach. And in a role that would be pretty easy to cut him loose from if he was to start creating issues. But I'm not sure what issues he'd create if he's not on the bench and his on a$$ wasn't on the line with the team's W-L record. Especially if he and Woodson already have a relationship and understanding. Brown knows basketball at all levels.

[Trader Joe]

I wish we would stop calling Woodson a rookie head coach. He is not.

[Bball]

I wish we would stop calling Woodson a rookie head coach. He is not.

Last I checked, he's got ZERO college coaching experience. I'm not even aware of an assistant coaching role.
That makes him a rookie HC in college.

I'm not sure how he's anything but that???