Nirvana's place in the world of music....
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Sorry if this sounds insensitive, but: The best thing that ever happened to Kurt Cobain's career (and Nirvana for that matter) is the tragic nature of his death. He was talented, and Nirvana made decent music, but if he had lived, we wouldn't think about them the same way.Comment
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Re: Nirvana's place in the world of music....
Sorry if this sounds insensitive, but: The best thing that ever happened to Kurt Cobain's career (and Nirvana for that matter) is the tragic nature of his death. He was talented, and Nirvana made decent music, but if he had lived, we wouldn't think about them the same way.
I won't because it's just wrong btw.Follow me at @BluejbgoldComment
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How this discussion has failed to mention Slim Whitman I will never know!Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.
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You know I'll be honest that I forgot that Nirvana's album came out at the same time as Use your Illusion 1 & right before 2.
So they did go head to head with a Juggernaut in that sense.
However it's not like the Beatle's had no musical contemporaries either.
The Beach Boys & the Rolling Stones were also coming on at the same time and the Beach Boys were actually already popular when the Beatles hit.Comment
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...and Pet Sounds was inspired by the Beatles....Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.
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"A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."
-John WoodenComment
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One thing I've learned being around the music biz is that (many) people tend to get a little tunnel-vision with the music they like and that they hate (and everywhere in between). They can acknowledge other forms of music but they tend to believe their choices are with the majority... regardless of how true that is or is not. But music is art and not everyone's tastes are the same.
In deciding where bands fit in the grand scheme of things it's hard to distance yourself from the biases. Honestly, seeing the two rankings of Nirvana at #14 and 30 all time both seem to prove my point as well as speak pretty darned highly of Nirvana to be in that stratosphere. Even #30 is pretty darned good.Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.
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"A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, that’s teamwork."
-John WoodenComment
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Re: Nirvana's place in the world of music....
One thing I've learned being around the music biz is that (many) people tend to get a little tunnel-vision with the music they like and that they hate (and everywhere in between). They can acknowledge other forms of music but they tend to believe their choices are with the majority... regardless of how true that is or is not. But music is art and not everyone's tastes are the same.
In deciding where bands fit in the grand scheme of things it's hard to distance yourself from the biases. Honestly, seeing the two rankings of Nirvana at #14 and 30 all time both seem to prove my point as well as speak pretty darned highly of Nirvana to be in that stratosphere. Even #30 is pretty darned good.Follow me at @BluejbgoldComment
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Wow, this thread has blown my mind. I don't care much for the Beetles music at all (feel free to flame me), but I'm not one to deny their influence on music past, present or future.
Arguing that Nirvana holds any merit in the same breath as the Beetles is, in my opinion, foolish. That's mainly based upon, as far as I'm aware, that no band today is saying that Nirvana is in their top five of musical inspirations. Sure, there might be a few...but where exactly are they?
Don't get me wrong at all I like Nirvana. I still remember the first time I heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and it still makes me feel the exact same way as I did back then. As a matter of fact, that's the first song I learned how to play...along with other Nirvana songs.
What, I think, is getting overlooked is how they played their music. They broke music down to a very simple form and had a little run of success at it. To me, the Beetles did the same thing over a longer period of time in a much simpler time of music and reaped the benefits from it. But, to me, that's one of the reasons I don't like the Beetles and why Nirvana was a little stale for my tastes. I'll still listen to them, but I prefer more complex pieces of music because music is so much more than playing it "simple". After all, nobody likes doing the same simple thing over and over all day right?Comment
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Look if Nirvana created grunge rock, they had no more competition than the Beatles did. If you want to play this card that there more media bands, fine I'll go with that, but at the same time then, I'm going to say it was much harder for news and fame to gather during the Beatles era and they still exploded all over the world. Not just in the northwest United States
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Oh BTW, I like the Beatles just fine, but honestly for most of my life I've probably liked Nirvana more...go figure.
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Re: Nirvana's place in the world of music....
Sorry if this sounds insensitive, but: The best thing that ever happened to Kurt Cobain's career (and Nirvana for that matter) is the tragic nature of his death. He was talented, and Nirvana made decent music, but if he had lived, we wouldn't think about them the same way.
I enjoy some of Nirvana's music. Nevermind was one of the best albums on the '90s. But comparing Nirvana to the Beatles is ridiculous. Comparing Nirvana to even the Rolling Stones is ridiculous.
I'm sure if Layne Staley, Chris Cornell or Eddie Vedder died instead of Cobain at the peak of their popularity in the early '90s, they too --WRONGLY-- would be viewed as rock deities.Comment
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Re: Nirvana's place in the world of music....
You know I'll be honest that I forgot that Nirvana's album came out at the same time as Use your Illusion 1 & right before 2.
So they did go head to head with a Juggernaut in that sense.
However it's not like the Beatle's had no musical contemporaries either.
The Beach Boys & the Rolling Stones were also coming on at the same time and the Beach Boys were actually already popular when the Beatles hit.
The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Beach Boys, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, The Who, Fleetwood Mac and even the Yardbirds and the Eagles overlapped each other somewhat...talk about competition...Comment
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