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  • Kid Minneapolis
    Pacer Pride, Colts Strong
    • Apr 2004
    • 7351

    Re: Luck so far

    He's already done this, Trader, weeks ago. He's admitted that he wants to see Indy fail, he hates Luck, Irsay, and all this jazz. I've already came to the same mindset you have, and the mods just poo poo it, say "he's not technically breaking rules". My entire point is, why the heck is there not a rule for just plain old "disruptive, non-productive riling of posters ---- trolling." His outlandish claims, like he's 65 and doesn't have long, and he's hanging out in RV camps in south central indiana, and he's an executive producer, has no family --- but then posts comments that clash with those notions. Who does that? Nothing adds up with this guy, I don't believe a word he says. Anyone who has admitted to hating the Colts and posts 50 posts a day saying the same 6 things over and over should be told to scram, because there's absolutely no good to come of it, but what will probly happen is this forum will eventually just lose all activity because no one wants to post here anymore. He's immature as hell, whether you believe he's actually 65, or he's actually a 20 year old lying to us all with this fake profile. It's immature anyway you look at it. Hating a team for the false reasons he claims (that Irsay is lying and all that crap) is just immature as hell. Even more embarrassing if he's actually what he claims.
    There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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    • OlBlu
      Banned
      • Dec 2011
      • 3288

      Re: Luck so far

      Originally posted by Trader Joe
      You just admitted you HATE Luck after all the times you said you want him to actually succeed you just didn't think he would. Clearly those were lies. Clearly your entire schtick here is an act.

      I hope this is proof enough to the admins that you are a troll.

      I've done all I can. See ya later Blu.
      Just because I hate Luck and what we had to do to make him the starting QB does not man that I don't want him to succeed. I didn't like some of the Colts in the past but I always wanted them to succeed. I am not a troll. I am just not an Andrew Luck fan and I may never be. Does that mean I am disqualified to speak about the Colts? Strange world we live in these days. I don't like Donald Brown as a player but I want him to do well. I am not a huge fan of Freeney because he doesn't bring it all of the time like Mathis does. I can't stand Irsay but I want his team to do well (but I would be happier if he sold the team). You are a pretty demanding group...

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      • OlBlu
        Banned
        • Dec 2011
        • 3288

        Re: Luck so far

        Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis
        He's already done this, Trader, weeks ago. He's admitted that he wants to see Indy fail, he hates Luck, Irsay, and all this jazz. I've already came to the same mindset you have, and the mods just poo poo it, say "he's not technically breaking rules". My entire point is, why the heck is there not a rule for just plain old "disruptive, non-productive riling of posters ---- trolling." His outlandish claims, like he's 65 and doesn't have long, and he's hanging out in RV camps in south central indiana, and he's an executive producer, has no family --- but then posts comments that clash with those notions. Who does that? Nothing adds up with this guy, I don't believe a word he says. Anyone who has admitted to hating the Colts and posts 50 posts a day saying the same 6 things over and over should be told to scram, because there's absolutely no good to come of it, but what will probly happen is this forum will eventually just lose all activity because no one wants to post here anymore.
        I have never said that I hated the Colts. That is not and never has been true. I don't like the owner. I am not a fan of Andrew Luck. I have made no secret of those things. It takes views that are differing to make a forum interesting. Unless you just want to backslap each other in every post and say, "Boy those Colts and Andrew Luck are great." Well, they aren't great. They may be some day and I certainly hope they are. I am 65 and I am a type II diabetic. My chances of living to 80 (when Luck is done and the Colts might really be great again) are slim. I knew that when they let Peyton go, it would be a long time before we see another great Colts team. You in your 40s or less have that much time, I don't......

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        • Kid Minneapolis
          Pacer Pride, Colts Strong
          • Apr 2004
          • 7351

          Re: Luck so far

          You hate Luck because...... we drafted him? What did he do explicitly to warrant that hate? Luck himself had nothing to do with Manning's departure except the fact that he had such a high skillset and pedigree. He had absolutely zero control over Manning, over Irsay, over Grigson. All he did was go out and become the highest rated prospect in 3 decades and he earned it. And he got drafted. And you hate him. That is the most idiotic thing I've ever read. Only 12 year olds think like that.
          There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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          • OlBlu
            Banned
            • Dec 2011
            • 3288

            Re: Luck so far

            Originally posted by RWB
            You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch.

            I know that you think I am the only one who thinks this but there are actually a lot of us...... Some are just more quiet than I am about it... I have a neice that agrees with most of you but the rest of us think my way....

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            • Trader Joe
              DIET COKE!
              • Jan 2006
              • 46892

              Re: Luck so far

              So to try and bring this thread back to reality, I would say right now that Luck's rookie year has been better than Peyton's so far. Peyton however made a big leap in about week 7 or 8 where he really started to piece everything together. Do we think Luck will make that kind of leap this season? And if so who do we think it may click against?


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              • Kid Minneapolis
                Pacer Pride, Colts Strong
                • Apr 2004
                • 7351

                Re: Luck so far

                Okay, if there are a number of people who think like you, doesn't make you correct in the long run. You have an incorrect emotional mindset, which is ironic as you just said that you gotta take "emotions out of business" yesterday. Your entire opinion of the Colts is completely emotional, and not business-oriented. I look at you as the type of person who boo'd the Reggie Miller draft pick on pure emotion about Steve Alford. Which was half of the state of Indiana. Half of the state of Indiana was wrong about management's decision in 1987. But to a man, every one of them thought they were right because there are a ton of people who don't actually know what the hell they are talking about.
                There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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                • OlBlu
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 3288

                  Re: Luck so far

                  Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis
                  You hate Luck because...... we drafted him? What did he do explicitly to warrant that hate? Luck himself had nothing to do with Manning's departure except the fact that he had such a high skillset and pedigree. He had absolutely zero control over Manning, over Irsay, over Grigson. All he did was go out and become the highest rated prospect in 3 decades and he earned it. And he got drafted. And you hate him. That is the most idiotic thing I've ever read. Only 12 year olds think like that.

                  When it became apparent that we were going all in to draft Luck and Peyton was going to be let go, many of us think the way I do. Luck will never have the respect and adoration that Peyton had because of it. I more hate the owner but I do resent Luck. I also did not buy into the hype and I was for taking RGIII if this had to be done. I think I was right. Fan is short for fanatic. I admit to being one. The Colts made other moves in the past that I hated too. Peyton Manning ended a 36 year Super Bowl drought and, in my eyes and many fans eyes, he deserved to retire a Colts when he wanted to do that. I felt the same way about Farve and Joe Montana. If that is a personality defect, so be it. I also feel the same way about Bobby Knight and IU. They destroyed my being an IU fan when they fired him and I certainly hope they never win another game much less a championship. I even root for Kentucky when they play IU....I just hate Kentucky less than I hate IU. So, yes, I am a big fan of Peyton Manning and not of Andrew Luck. Luck may change that but I doubt it.....

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                  • OlBlu
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 3288

                    Re: Luck so far

                    Originally posted by Kid Minneapolis
                    Okay, just because there's a number of you who think like you doesn't make you correct in the long run. You have an incorrect emotional outlook, which is ironic as you just said that you gotta take "emotions out of business" yesterday. Your entire opinion of the Colts is completely emotional, and not business-oriented. I look at you as the type of person who boo'd the Reggie Miller draft pick on pure emotion about Steve Alford. Which was half of the state of Indiana. Half of the state of Indiana was wrong about management's decision in 1987. But to a man, every one of them thought they were right because there are a ton of people who don't actually know what the hell they are talking about.
                    I said take emotions out of betting, not business.. Yes, I am emotional about the Colts. I never thought Alford would be an NBA player so you are wrong about that. At the time, I thought they might have done better drafting Reggie's sister than Alford. I am well aware that I could be wrong about all of this. I hope I am, I can handle that if it makes the Colts a winner but I doubt that I am wrong. I am certainly not wrong about RGIII being head and shoulders better than Luck right now and perhaps he is better than Luck will ever be. We will have to see about that one.......

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                    • RWB
                      Member
                      • May 2004
                      • 7980

                      Re: Luck so far

                      Originally posted by OlBlu
                      I know that you think I am the only one who thinks this but there are actually a lot of us...... Some are just more quiet than I am about it... I have a neice that agrees with most of you but the rest of us think my way....
                      Oh, I truly believe there are former Manning fans who are upset, didn't renew tickets, and in their own selfish screwed up mind would love for Luck to fail or become a paraplegic apparently.

                      I've met plenty of fans like you and so has Peyton Manning. Actually Peyton had a major hatred for fans like you and yes I had many conversations with #18 while he was with the Colts. Yep that goofy avatar of Peyton and the dorkey looking gent in the bright green should give you clue. Six years I setup security and personal protection for that QB during training camp. Spent many times yelling at people with attitudes like you have displayed in these threads.... all under the direction of Mr. Peyton Manning. Get over your hate Blu because I know for a fact he couldn't stand alleged fans like you.
                      You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

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                      • Kid Minneapolis
                        Pacer Pride, Colts Strong
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 7351

                        Re: Luck so far

                        Originally posted by OlBlu
                        When it became apparent that we were going all in to draft Luck and Peyton was going to be let go, many of us think the way I do.
                        Not a good way to look at it, that's a poor attitude and pretty immature. That's an emotional reaction and not a business reaction, which is exactly the opposite of what you claimed just yesterday.


                        Originally posted by OlBlu
                        Luck will never have the respect and adoration that Peyton had because of it. I more hate the owner but I do resent Luck.
                        Again, your mind is shut. Not a good way to be. Luck is a fantastic player and person and you're going to do nothing but hate him for something he had zero control over. That's some serious issues on your part.

                        Originally posted by OlBlu
                        I also did not buy into the hype and I was for taking RGIII if this had to be done. I think I was right. Fan is short for fanatic. I admit to being one.
                        No, it had nothing to do with "buying" into hype -- it has to do with you just absolutely and illogically refusing to recognize Luck for what he actually is, which is a flaw on your part, not his. You're illogically and emotionally buying into RG3 while claiming we shouldn't do the exact same thing with the guy who is on our team.

                        Originally posted by OlBlu
                        The Colts made other moves in the past that I hated too. Peyton Manning ended a 36 year Super Bowl drought and, in my eyes and many fans eyes, he deserved to retire a Colts when he wanted to do that. I felt the same way about Farve and Joe Montana. If that is a personality defect, so be it. I also feel the same way about Bobby Knight and IU. They destroyed my being an IU fan when they fired him and I certainly hope they never win another game much less a championship. I even root for Kentucky when they play IU....I just hate Kentucky less than I hate IU. So, yes, I am a big fan of Peyton Manning and not of Andrew Luck. Luck may change that but I doubt it.....
                        Just because you demonstrate the tendency to have illogically deep-rooted emotional attachments to teams doesn't mean your teams should make bad business decisions just to cater to your illogical deep-rooted emotional attachments.

                        The issue here isn't your teams --- it's your lack of being able to let go.
                        Last edited by Kid Minneapolis; 10-15-2012, 01:59 PM.
                        There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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                        • OlBlu
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 3288

                          Re: Luck so far

                          Originally posted by Trader Joe
                          So to try and bring this thread back to reality, I would say right now that Luck's rookie year has been better than Peyton's so far. Peyton however made a big leap in about week 7 or 8 where he really started to piece everything together. Do we think Luck will make that kind of leap this season? And if so who do we think it may click against?
                          I don't think Luck will come close to Peyton by years end except in yards passing because he gets to chuck it a lot for a 50% passer. That has nothing to do with Luck. I think the Colts had a lot better team when Peyton came in than this one. I also think that it was easier to take that group and add a good player here and there to make them even better very quickly. Here, you have to replace about every player but Luck (Wayne being the exception but how long will he last?). So, no, I don't think Luck will make a big leap this season. I think he will have some very good moments when Wayne plays out of his mind and has the biggest day of his career... I would worry about any QB on this team making it through the season and that has nothing to do with Luck at all. He is quick enough and releases fast enough, his line is just the worst in the NFL, that is the problem, not Luck. On a decent team, Luck would have up and down days like just about any other rookie. He throws a lot of picks per TD but you would expect a rookie to do just that, Peyton certainly did..... Get off of my case, I can be a Colts fan without being a fan of Irsay or Luck. Hell, I have been a fan for a long time with Irsay as the owner and I have always thought that he was a buffoon. Unlike his father, he had enough sense to get out of the way for a few years with great results. Now, he is back to being directly involved and I don't think that will go well. In fact, it already hasn't .....

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                          • Coopdog23
                            THE WITCH IS DEAD!!!
                            • May 2010
                            • 3473

                            Re: Luck so far

                            Originally posted by OlBlu
                            I don't think Luck will come close to Peyton by years end except in yards passing because he gets to chuck it a lot for a 50% passer. That has nothing to do with Luck. I think the Colts had a lot better team when Peyton came in than this one. I also think that it was easier to take that group and add a good player here and there to make them even better very quickly. Here, you have to replace about every player but Luck (Wayne being the exception but how long will he last?). So, no, I don't think Luck will make a big leap this season. I think he will have some very good moments when Wayne plays out of his mind and has the biggest day of his career... I would worry about any QB on this team making it through the season and that has nothing to do with Luck at all. He is quick enough and releases fast enough, his line is just the worst in the NFL, that is the problem, not Luck. On a decent team, Luck would have up and down days like just about any other rookie. He throws a lot of picks per TD but you would expect a rookie to do just that, Peyton certainly did..... Get off of my case, I can be a Colts fan without being a fan of Irsay or Luck. Hell, I have been a fan for a long time with Irsay as the owner and I have always thought that he was a buffoon. Unlike his father, he had enough sense to get out of the way for a few years with great results. Now, he is back to being directly involved and I don't think that will go well. In fact, it already hasn't .....
                            Luck has done better than Peyton has in his rookie year
                            Smothered Chicken!

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                            • Kid Minneapolis
                              Pacer Pride, Colts Strong
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 7351

                              Re: Luck so far

                              Originally posted by Coopdog23
                              Luck has done better than Peyton has in his rookie year
                              He's done better ---- with less.
                              There are two types of quarterbacks in the league: Those whom over time, the league figures out ... and those who figure out the league.

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                              • OlBlu
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 3288

                                Re: Luck so far

                                [QUOTE=Kid Minneapolis;1510123]Not a good way to look at it, that's a poor attitude and pretty immature. That's an emotional reaction and not a business reaction, which is exactly the opposite of what you claimed just yesterday.


                                I'll try to speak slowly for you. I said that you take the emotions out when you are gambling. I don't take it out in general business. Emotion is what fuels a lot success. You don't get people to work day and night and give it there all unless they are emotionally invested. Sales is all emotion. Most decisions to buy are emotional and good sales people realize that. Now, get my quote correct or stop using it......

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