Luck vs Griffin - let it begin.

[bunt]

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whereas Weeden didn't even know if he'd start over Colt Mccoy in training camp.

Again, for the sake of accurate statements and not sensationalized statements, Weeden was named the starter 10 days into camp. 4 days in advance of their first preseason game. McCoy didn't even get any reps with the first team those first 10 days into camp. Lets not pretend Weeden was kept in the dark about if he would be the starter.

This isn't a huge deal, but making sensationalized statement to prove people's points is the biggest problem in this Luck vs. Griffin "debate".

[Trader Joe]

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Hey I mean anytime you can draft a guy that is going to turn 29 in his rookie season with your first round pick...you have to do it.

[Kid Minneapolis]

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I don't know what you are babbling about....

Likewise.

[Ace E.Anderson]

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There are multiple issues with what you said in your post, but this is a statement with simply no basis for any meaning. That incompletion occurred with 6:38 left in the game, not 0:05. That would-be TD pass would have given the Browns a 3 point lead, not 30 point lead. Saying Weeden would have won if it was caught means about as much as me saying Luck's 5 Yd TD run in the second quarter actually did win the game.

I can appreciate you trying to be the impartial poster who balances out the trolling that compares Luck to Tebow and such, and with the Colts homers, but you're starting to slip more and more onto the side of those who continue to say a lot of things, hoping for something to stick.

Though you're right, considering our lack of execution in the second half, I might not have been too far off. But I can admit, I was wrong on that point and there was a lot of game left to be played.

As for your last comment, I'm not hoping anything "sticks", I'm just calling it like I see it.

[Swingman]

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Ace,

don't you think one reason Weeden fell so far was because of his age and not his talent level?

If you had 2 players of comparable talent level, then would you go with the 23 year old or the 29 year old?

Not saying the talent level of Weeden is comparable to Luck but may not be as far off as the draft position would otherwise indicate. Due to age, he won't likely have as long of a career as other rookies.

[vapacersfan]

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RG3 had some terrible mistakes, but I expect that from a rookie QB

Honestly I am a little surprised he has not had more. I remember saying that during the game.

I am not sure where this notion is coming from that we have a strong offense, but its laughable. Even moreso now that Davis is out for the year.

I swear a HS JV football team could beat our secondary. I hate our D coordinator and his repetitive stupid calls.

RG3 also made up for his stupid mistakes (really only the one I hated was the pick) with his nice plays, including a bomb (that was dropped), his 4th down play, and that damned nice pass to Santana.

[Trader Joe]

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You have statistically one of the best running backs in the NFL this season. That's pretty important.

[Kid Minneapolis]

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Don't think anyone is saying your offense is "strong", but have you seen Indy's offense? It's literally Andrew Luck, Reggie Wayne, and then a buncha guys. Sometimes Donnie Avery resembles an NFL WR. Not saying that some of thes guys won't eventually develop, like our rookie TEs and WRs, but as of right now, it's a very raw, inexperienced, mistake-prone group of guys.

[Trader Joe]

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Allen and Fleener both look above average at TE already IMO.

[Kid Minneapolis]

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I'll give you that Allen has looked better than your typical rookie TE. To say he's average as an experienced NFL veteran TE would be a big stretch. He'll get there, but he's not there right now. Fleener seems to be even behind him.

[LuckSwagger]

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I found it difficult to take OlBlu seriously before, but after he used "Tony Romo" and "star" in the same sentence I've determined he believes the opposite of everything he posts and he's laughing his *** off at our reactions.


The only people who think Tony Romo is a "star" work at ESPN and the only "star" he'll ever be associated with is the one on the 50 yard line in his own stadium.

[OlBlu]

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Allen and Fleener both look above average at TE already IMO.

Allen, perhaps, but I see nothing special in Fleener...... We should have kept Thame and drafted two offensive linemen....

[Trader Joe]

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Fleener is on pace to get around 50 catches this season. That's pretty solid for a rookie tight end.

[Kid Minneapolis]

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It's... okay. He's on pace for like 500 yards, too. Nothign earth-shattering, certainly not what we were hoping for as a round 2 draft pick. Zero touchdowns so far for a guy who was supposed to be a red zone freak.

[OlBlu]

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I found it difficult to take OlBlu seriously before, but after he used "Tony Romo" and "star" in the same sentence I've determined he believes the opposite of everything he posts and he's laughing his *** off at our reactions.


The only people who think Tony Romo is a "star" work at ESPN and the only "star" he'll ever be associated with is the one on the 50 yard line in his own stadium.

There are people all over the country in every form of media who think Romo is a star who is undermined by a bad owner. About like Luck will be undermined by Irsay but Luck will never be a star unless there is vast improvement down the line.

Romo's stat say "star" and he is always mentioned as one of the top ten QBs in the league by any expert I read. I would be very excited if Luck EVER got close to being as good as Tony Romo....

JB