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    Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

    As we all know it was just one game, there are at least 3 more to go and most likely 6 more to go. So we all know going into this article that it’s just one win in what will be a long hard fought series.

    But my God what a game it was.

    Let me go back to what I kept pounding in the first round and hit upon in the second round.

    This isn’t really rocket science, when we hit open face up jumpers we completely change teams ability to defend us, once we change their ability to guard us by not packing the paint we then have enough diverse offensive options to make life miserable for almost any team.

    Today, to start the game, we were hitting three point shots like layups and our mid range game was clicking. Thus Miami got spread out, we were brilliant at moving the ball and thus had several opportunities to drive the paint with our wings or to have David West play bad *** bully ball down low.

    Miami loves to trap and pressure the dribbler, thus causing poor cross court passes that allow Wade or James to pick off the errant pass and then it’s off to the races. We have been victim to this very thing many times over the past couple of years.

    Today though I think this actually backfired against the Heat. Our modus operandi is to have one of our wings pound the air out of the ball till about 6 seconds left in the clock then start to make a move and either throw up some ridiculous shot or hope and pray they find a cutter or an open perimeter player for a kick out. This is how our offense gives the general impression that all of our players just met for the first time before the game and picked teams by shooting free throws.

    However with the Heat trapping and pressuring the ball it actually forced us to move the ball and when we hit the open man in the first half it was game on. By then the Heat were scrambling and honestly while they always were within striking distance they never really were in the game either.

    Now don’t kid yourselves, I’m not fooled. We won’t hit from the outside like that again, most likely ever, but certainly not game 2.

    They will be out for blood and you can book now that Roy Hibbert will have 3 fouls before the half.

    But I’m not willing to concede game 2 to them yet without at least giving it an honest fight. I know many people are going to write today off as an aberration because of our super high efficiency offence but I still believe we can make a game of it if we keep attacking the paint, rebound at a high rate and defend as though our lives depended on it.

    There were several hero’s today but I would be remiss to not single out and point out the coaching job by Frank Vogel. He has had a plan to beat the Heat since he tool over the reign’s from Satan all those many years ago and today you could see his game plan bear fruit.

    Tough defense, low post (dare I say it, I dare) smash mouth basketball, ball movement and off the ball movement.

    He even adjusted his bench play to match the team on the floor. But the biggest thing that I loved was that when Miami made a short run in the 3rd to get the score down to 9 Frank called a time out instead of letting them go on a huge run. He drew up a play, we scored and from there Miami could never really get that close again.

    So while he can’t hit the shots or defend the post he did design the plan and the players for one day executed it almost flawlessly.

    All Hail The Vogel!!!!

    I told Diamond Dave on our drive to the game that the three keys that I thought had to happen were as follows.

    George Hill had to outplay Mario Chalmers, check.

    Roy Hibbert had to have at least 9 rebounds, check.

    Luis Scola had to provide an offensive punch off of the bench, 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.

    How many times have we said this, when George Hill is active and engaged on the offensive end of the game we are a totally different team than when he sets back and just tries to defend. Chalmers has often gotten the better of him in these games and it always pisses me off because Chalmers is not a better player, not even close.

    Sure the three point barrage effectively changed the game but drawing 6 foul shots and hitting all of them in the second half was almost as important. It slowed Miami’s roll and we were getting points while the clock was stopped. Now normally you want the clock to roll when you have a lead but vs. the Heat sometimes it’s equally important to make them take the ball out from under the basket than some transition crap that we can’t stop.

    All of our starters were brilliant for the most part but George Hill was the initial catalyst for this offensive push and from there forward they could not leave him alone and thus our interior attack was open for business.

    Now something about the Heat that I noticed in the second half and I’m not sure at what point it was but just before Wade fouled Hibbert for the and 1 from that pass from West I told Diamond Dave to look at Wade. I saw something I’ve never seen from him before, he was gassed. I mean he was totally drained of energy and I believe that his foul of Hibbert was because he didn’t have the umph to go up high and block Roy.

    Didn’t stop him from having a brilliant game as he once again was just an absolute killer from mid range, but you will notice he pulled up a lot today and did several fade away jumpers. Just two years ago he would have attacked Roy right at the rim. We’ll see where that goes from here.

    If Roy Hibbert was the Hound on the defensive end then David West was the Mountain on the offensive end. He just abused the Miami interior all night and they looked inferior and less like men after this was said and done. At some point I expected Grady to yell “They call him Big Poppa” whenever West would just bull his way to the basket.

    Also is there another player in the entire NBA that would realize that they have LeBron James guarding them one on one in the post and instead of passing out would go “everybody clear out I got this” other than Lance Stephenson? I half expected him to yank the mic out of Grady’s hand and give the Hounds speech that can be heard here.



    Love him or hate him, Lance Stephenson is one of the true characters that our franchise has had in it’s long history.

    Let’s hit the grades. This will be as easy as the game vs. the Wizards when we couldn’t rebound.

    Paul George: A+

    At the end of the day he once again led us in scoring but that was when he picked it up in the second half. He spent the first half being a facilitator and when the Heat started to sag off of him, he made them pay. Once again went toe to toe with the best player in the world and once again he more than held his own. Also I noticed today that the Heat had LeBron switch off of Paul several times and Paul stuck with LeBron for most of the game. I think they are trying to keep the king fresh as the series moves along. Great defense, solid shooting and absolutely brilliant sense of timing. In other words he scored when we really need him to.

    David West: A+

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    Gave LeBron a forearm shiver early in the game and at first I though James was flopping again until I saw the in house replay and saw him rubbing his chest on the other end. West just caved in his rib cage and I loved it. Thanks to the outside shooting early in the game West never really faced a double team down low and it was pure comedy gold watching Bosh attempt to keep him out of the lane.

    Roy Hibbert: A+

    All you need to know about this game is this, when the Heat were in their death throws down towards the end of the game and doing any and everything to try and come back Roy Hibbert quickly and confidently rose up took and hit a 14’ hook shot. Game blouses.

    Also let it be known from here forward Roy Hibbert stole a rebound from Lance Stephenson this game and I couldn’t be happier. I am like the rest of you in the fact that I suffer from PTSD after Roy’s end of the season collapse and first round play so yes I’m waiting on the other shoe to drop. But for today’s game he was part of the offensive juggernaut that just rolled the Heat today.

    Lance Stephenson: A+

    Don’t lie, I know who you are and I know where you sit. Every time Lance did his Rucker Park juke move and then pulled up for a shot we could have made a diamond out of a lump of coal if we had shoved it up your butt because you were clenching in pure pain and agony. I know Uncle Buck aged 7 years whenever he had the ball. Of course he did have that, what the hell was that, three point shot that he took at the end of the 4th. But other than that he did exactly what he said he wanted to do, he made Wade move and I think this goes a long way in what I said from above, Wade was tired.

    George Hill: A+

    He has to stay active, he has to stay engaged. When he does we play at another level, when he is content to not shoot and not push the issue we are very beatable. Today he was active and engaged. The results are the final score.

    C.J. Watson: A

    Gave us that offensive punch off of the bench that we truly needed. Was the recipient of a typical flagrant foul that the Heat like to do whenever a team is getting transition on them. Anybody remember Wade doing that to Collison, I do and I pray every single time we play them that someone on our team returns the favor, but I never have my prayers answered. Anyway I love when they run Hill & Watson together on the floor, they both can shoot and they both can drive. Lots of quality options there.

    Luis Scola: B

    Had the decency to not take a lot of shots but did have one hell of a dunk off of a fast break. Also he did a pretty decent job of rebounding and competing for the boards. I still hold out hope that one of these games Luis will have one of those shooting nights where he gets to the elbow and just goes nuts. When and if he does this I believe we will win whatever game that is. But until that I will be content in limited min for him and him rebounding at a high clip.

    Ian Mahinmi: C

    I’m going to be kind to Ian here. He had a 90 second run that just sucked the entire life out of the fieldhouse and single handily made Chris Anderson relevant. But he did block a shot. Okay I’m really really being kind here.

    Evan Turner: A+

    Best game he’s had in the playoffs.

    Don't know if it showed up on TV or not but Jalen Rose did get a nice hand when he was introduced and he played to the crowd. There was a roar that went up though when they introduced Mark Jackson to the crowd, he was talking on ESPN at the time so I don't even think he knew they introduced him. Haywood Workman was in the crowd and he also got a big hand and of course Rik Smits and Big Mac got thunderous applause as well.

    Okay we all know that we are in for a war and yes each and everyone of us are concerned at some level with which Pacers team will show up on what night.

    But for today, one glorious day in May, the Indiana Pacers were the one who knocks on the door.

    I’m going to forgo fruit tonight because it’s too early. But make no mistake I am going to celebrate this masterpiece until tip of game 2.

    Something like this deserves some L L Cool J




    Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13
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    Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

    LOL @ Evan Turner.

    As I mentioned in the other thread, the key to this series is Roy Hibbert. He's really our single best advantage against the Heat and he really can't afford to have a single bad game for the Pacers to have a decent chance against the Heat. Hope he keeps it up!

    With a home court advantage, I hope the Pacers will not squander its chance by losing at home for the remainder of the series.

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    • #3
      Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

      Great game. George and Hibbert have to ensure that they don't commit silly fouls, esp in game 2 when the officiating could be biased the other way. Otherwise, more of the same please.

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      • #4
        Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

        Originally posted by Peck View Post
        David West: A+

        S olomon
        H ercules
        A tlas
        Z eus
        A chilles
        M ercury

        Gave LeBron a forearm shiver early in the game and at first I though James was flopping again until I saw the in house replay and saw him rubbing his chest on the other end. West just caved in his rib cage and I loved it. Thanks to the outside shooting early in the game West never really faced a double team down low and it was pure comedy gold watching Bosh attempt to keep him out of the lane.
        I saw that too.

        I hope that we continue to get the ball to West when LeDecision defends him. He doesn't like to defend West cuz he knows that doing so means that he will have to push/shove/bang inside/outmuscle him. I know that this will mean that West will have to defend the opposing SG on the floor ( in this case, Ray Allen )....but I think that West did an acceptable job of running around screens and keeping him up with him. Allen still got his point....but West was able to adequately defend him considering that West isn't built to defend such a Player like Allen.
        Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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        • #5
          Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

          There is no better sight than David West powering his will in the paint against Miami. Can we have that in every single game please?
          Never forget

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          • #6
            Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

            Loved seeing the guards & PG take the ball wide after the Heat would blitz the P & R and then turn the corner hard vs. trying to split or pass out of the double team. This really had the defense scrambling and allowed the Pacers to score off of the simple basketball play or just take it into the heart of the defense and draw a foul.

            Pretty good offensive blueprint for beating the Heat was on display. Hill & Stephenson are going to get open looks from three and if they knock them down at a rate over 36% or so this will bode well for the series. Also as long as the Pacer ball handlers can be strong & patient with the basketball West & Hibbert will be able to feast in the paint off duck-ins and drop offs.

            Defense was good but will need to be better in game 2. Rebounding effort was excellent. Both of these facets are this teams real identity and need to be there along with "good enough" offensive execution in order to win this series.

            I see the Heat making a huge first half assault in game 2. The Pacers just need to keep their collective poise, weather the storm and then try to wear them down and bludgeon them in the paint in the second half. Strongly feel game two will eventually turn into a grinder and be decided in the final minutes. Win this game and I believe the Heat will start to feel real doubt and will get tight. As Pacer fans we know all too well how hard it is to win 4 out of the last 5 games in a competitive ECF.

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            • #7
              Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

              Keep turnovers low. Continue to pulverize them inside. George HIll must stay aggressive. I want to eliminate these clowns so much I can taste it. Hopefully keep Bosh under wraps, thus keeping them a two man team - and one of two looks gimpy and tired - and I don't think they can beat us four times.
              I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.

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              • #8
                Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

                I cannot wait for game 2. If Indiana wins Tuesday, I'm declaring the series officially over
                Being unable to close out a game in which you have a comfortable lead in the 4th Q = Pulling a Frank Vogel

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                • #9
                  Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

                  Originally posted by 15th parallel View Post
                  LOL @ Evan Turner.

                  As I mentioned in the other thread, the key to this series is Roy Hibbert. He's really our single best advantage against the Heat and he really can't afford to have a single bad game for the Pacers to have a decent chance against the Heat. Hope he keeps it up!

                  With a home court advantage, I hope the Pacers will not squander its chance by losing at home for the remainder of the series.
                  The key to every series is Roy Hibbert. The key to our success is Roy Hibbert. It has been this way for some time now.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

                    Originally posted by cdash View Post
                    The key to every series is Roy Hibbert. The key to our success is Roy Hibbert. It has been this way for some time now.
                    Paul is our best player but Roy is our most important player. When he plays like this he gives us an advantage on both ends that other teams have no answer for.
                    Why do teams tank? Ask a Spurs fan.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

                      Originally posted by Pacergeek View Post
                      I cannot wait for game 2. If Indiana wins Tuesday, I'm declaring the series officially over
                      That's, okay, yeah. I think you are gonna have a bad time with that prediction, but I hope to everything sacred and holy in life that you are right. I fully expect this to go 7. These two teams are too evenly matched for a series of anything less than 6 games.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

                        Whenever Lebron tried to back down PG, Paul just leveraged him and used his long arms to have Lebron focus on the ball and not the hoop.

                        That didn't happen last year. Paul was not that strong last year. It pays to be young and in shape.

                        This team looked old. That is nothing that the Bobcats and Jefferson's one leg attack could not do. That isn't something that the Nets and their relics could do.


                        I can imagine that the Heat will adjust. This talks well of Frank. I don't think we have one game adjustment. From personnel to plan, Frank out coached Spo.





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                        • #13
                          Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

                          I think that the best thing that you can take from yesterday is that we beat them with Wade having an incredible game. It would be pretty hard for Wade to play better than he did yesterday: 27 points on 12-18 shooting with some incredible mid-range jumpers. Have we ever beat them with Wade having such a good game? Usually Wade exploding meant that we were toast. For us to beat them with Wade having that sort of game just speaks volumes about what we're currently capable of if we play to our capabilities. I thought Lance's D was pretty solid on Wade for most of the game. Wade was just hitting tough shots and you have to tip your cap to him.

                          Bosh can play better and we certainly know that Lebron is capable of way more than yesterday, but I don't think that Wade is going to consistently play like that and yet the Pacers still won.

                          I just think that this Heat team is so vulnerable. Look, we know that they are going to make a run in this series and we know that they have the greatest player in the league who could light us up for 45 points tomorrow night. But like Major Cold said, they just look old. There's a reason that no team has made the Finals four consecutive years since the Celtics in the 80's. The Heat are an older team with sooooo many miles on them. 4 straight ECF's appearances, 3 straight NBA Finals appearances, 2 championships, and a 27 game winning streak. It would be impossible for them to not be feeling the fatigue of the past few seasons. That's why we need to use our young legs and go for blood.

                          If Roy his hitting those hooks and they're forced to put him on the line....if West is just abusing them....if Hill is aggressive....if Lance is smart and uses his strength to score....if PG continues to shoot a good percentage on jumpers....if PG frustrates Lebron just enough on defense to keep him exploding for 35+ points.......then I love our chances.

                          It all just seems to click when we play them.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

                            Originally posted by Sollozzo View Post
                            I think that the best thing that you can take from yesterday is that we beat them with Wade having an incredible game. It would be pretty hard for Wade to play better than he did yesterday: 27 points on 12-18 shooting with some incredible mid-range jumpers. Have we ever beat them with Wade having such a good game? Usually Wade exploding meant that we were toast. For us to beat them with Wade having that sort of game just speaks volumes about what we're currently capable of if we play to our capabilities. I thought Lance's D was pretty solid on Wade for most of the game. Wade was just hitting tough shots and you have to tip your cap to him.
                            For sure. The Pacers are too well balanced and match up too well with the Miami bigs for the Heat to win this series without Wade playing at a high level. Lebron is the best player in the NBA but I don't think he can single handedly beat a fully engaged (key distinction) Pacer team on his own more than once in this series. I think the Pacers won despite Wade playing great because Lance effectively cancelled him out offensively. 8 of 12 with 8 assists & only 2 turnovers was big production and great efficiency.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Odd Thoughts: 2014 Round 3 Game 1 Pacers unleash high powered offensive barrage

                              Mike and Mike this morning gave some interesting stats.

                              When Hibbert was in the game, the average Heat shot attempt was from 14 ft. When Hibbert was out of the game, the average Heat shot was from 7 feet, and the shooting percentage skyrocketed from the mid 40s to over 60%, IIRC.

                              When David West was being guarded by Lebron, he was 6-7 from the field.

                              The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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