Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

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  • Gold
    Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 559

    #1

    Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

    Shot attempts - 11.4 per game
    Usage rate - 19.1 (Less than PG, David West, and Luis Scola)
    Time of possession - 3.0 min (Less than George Hill (he's the point guard so of course) and Paul George (by .3).)
    AST/TO ratio- 1.7 (2nd behind George Hill)
    Turnover ratio - 13.5 (worst of the wings/guards on the Pacers)
    Field Goal % - .491
    True Shooting % - .566 (2nd behind George Hill)

    Are these team breaking numbers? Modest numbers? Mixture of both?
    Last edited by Gold; 03-31-2014, 08:08 PM.
  • seeker80
    Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 248

    #2
    Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

    He is a good player. No one denies that. But all stats aside, my issue is I don't think he is/will be a particularly good teammate. He is a much better player than JRSmith but he has a similar annoying selfish vibe. When things aren't going well for Lance, everybody knows it. Including a fair number of referees.

    Gotta be the center of attention. And a fair number of referees are willing to accommodate him.

    And I get that the youngsters amongst us think that's OK.

    But for me, IMHO, million dollar talent (but there is a lot of great talent in the NBA), 50 cent head (a few of those floating around too).

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    • joew8302
      Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 9561

      #3
      Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

      He is a terrible scapegoat. He brings it every night. Not everyone on the team can say that.

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      • Eleazar
        Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 13839

        #4
        Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

        Looking at stats isn't understanding the problem with Lance, as seeker80 pointed out.

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        • speakout4
          Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 3710

          #5
          Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

          Lance takes fewer shots than he should because he has to defer to others on the team.... He should be taking about a third of the shots that PG takes. It's obvious that Lance is a natural scapegoat based on his history for a team that is falling apart.

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          • CableKC
            Member
            • Mar 2005
            • 36691

            #6
            Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

            Everyone in the Starting Lineup and Vogel are the scapegoats. No single Player owns all the blame......all of them share in it. As to who owns a greater portion of the blame is all a matter of opinion.
            Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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            • BillS
              Angry Old Poster
              • Mar 2004
              • 21862

              #7
              Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

              I could be perfect in all those stats but if I run across the court in front of my own guys it will mess them up. That's the point. And that's from someone who thinks Lance has cleaned up his act recently.

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              BillS

              A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
              Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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              • CableKC
                Member
                • Mar 2005
                • 36691

                #8
                Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

                Originally posted by speakout4
                Lance takes fewer shots than he should because he has to defer to others on the team.... He should be taking about a third of the shots that PG takes. It's obvious that Lance is a natural scapegoat based on his history for a team that is falling apart.
                Could you elaborate on your post here?

                On average.....Lance takes 2/3 of the # of FGA ( 11.8 FGA ) that PG24 takes ( 17 FGA ).

                Are you saying that he should take 5 to 6 FGA a game ( as in 1/3 )?

                or

                Do you word your post the wrong way ( as in, Lance should be taking 2/3 of the shots as many shots that PG24 takes )?
                Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                • brownjake43
                  Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 1565

                  #9
                  Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

                  People who call Lance selfish are obnoxious. Just because you 1) Get down on yourself when you are not playing good, and 2) Are cocky when you are playing good does not mean you are a selfish player. In every interview Lance seems happy when the team won, and pissed when the team lost. Maybe he is down because he feels he let his teammates down when he plays bad. Just shut up about him being selfish, because he plays harder than anyone on the team by far night in and night out.

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                  • pogi
                    Board Pessimist
                    • May 2012
                    • 1500

                    #10
                    Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

                    Originally posted by seeker80
                    He is a good player. No one denies that. But all stats aside, my issue is I don't think he is/will be a particularly good teammate.
                    He tries to get everyone involved more than anyone else on the team.

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                    • Pace Maker
                      Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 2011

                      #11
                      Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

                      He's our most consistent player, I hate how the majority of blame is falling on him. He has his problems, but if everybody brought the same intensity and efficiency he did every night, we wouldn't be having this problem to be honest.
                      //

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                      • BlueNGold
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 32249

                        #12
                        Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

                        There's a whole lot more wrong than Lance Stephenson with this team. If it was simply him, they could fix the issue pretty easily. It's not just him but I think he's part of it.

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                        • Pacerblue
                          Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 134

                          #13
                          Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

                          No he is not a worthy scapecoat

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                          • xIndyFan
                            Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 5457

                            #14
                            Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

                            My only real problem with Lance is that he dances too much with the ball. When he dances, the offense stagnates. If you want to make a list of things he does wrong, you could. But that is true of any player. But being a ball stopper is his major sin, basketball wise.

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                            • PacersHomer
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 9464

                              #15
                              Re: Lance Stephenson: Is he a worthy scapegoat?

                              He's only being scapegoated by a 7'2" coward. Everyone who is sane knows it's not his fault.

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