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  • Heisenberg
    u bum
    • Jun 2010
    • 25190

    Re: Granger traded to Philly

    Originally posted by Pacergeek
    No reason to be emotionally attached to NBA players. Have emotion for the team you root for, not the players. Players come and go. Be proud to be an Indiana Pacer fan
    Teams are made up of players, not shirts

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    • khaos01207
      ^v^
      • Jul 2012
      • 8314

      Re: Granger traded to Philly

      Originally posted by Pacergeek
      No reason to be emotionally attached to NBA players. Have emotion for the team you root for, not the players. Players come and go. Be proud to be an Indiana Pacer fan
      Optimally, maybe, but unfortunately that just isn't going to happen. I love this team, and every player on it.
      #LanceEffect

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      • NuffSaid
        Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 2804

        Re: Granger traded to Philly

        Originally posted by Hoop
        I originally thought Granger could make a come back and be at 75-85% of what he was and that would have been pretty darn good. Now, after 25+ games I thought he was regressing rather than getting better. Danny had plenty of rehab time, practiced in training camp, played in the preseason, hurt his calf, then had plenty of time to get ready, more practice time. Really, besides a few games he never gave us much.

        A miracle could happen and he regains form, but not likely, especially this season and next season is irrelevant.
        That "miracle" will likely happen:

        a) Once Danny begins to play for his new team; or,

        b) Once Danny returns to Indy to play against the Pacers. (Hell, he'll probably have a career high like every other former Pacer seems to do when they come back to play against us.)

        On the trade itself, I have similar mixed feelings about it just as many others do. The trade came as a big surprise, and while I'm sad to see him go truth is his offense wasn't getting any better. You have to wonder if the demotion played on his psyching. You're out for pretty much a year, lose your starting SF role to PG, lose your SG role to Lance, you're now coming off the bench and a reserve PF his more of the "Go-To-Guy" than you? Someone who was the face of the franchise for 5 years? This trade reminds me of the way the Colts traded Peyton Manning. Hated the way they let him go...trying to recover from an injury only to discover he's been traded on the heals of an injury recovery.

        Of course, if Danny could check his ego long enough (assuming that was a problem), he could have fully embraced the notion of coming off the bench and turned into the Pacers' 6th Man and became the veteran leader of the reserves. One decent thing I will say about Danny's return is where his offense wasn't hitting on all cylinders, he did try very hard to make up for it on defense. Yes, he still missed a lot of defensive assignments, but I'd never seen him try harder on the defensive end than what I saw of him upon his return particularly over the last 10 games or so.

        I think the trade will work out well for both sides - Pacers, Turner, and Danny. I don't think Danny will stay with the 76ers for very long. They'll probably waive him and another team will pick him up. Frankly, I'd be pissed, too, if I were him. I mean, with everything Danny's been through with the Pacers the least Bird could've done was ensure he went to a +.500 ball club. Regardless, I wish Danny Granger well.
        Last edited by NuffSaid; 02-22-2014, 09:55 AM.

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        • McKeyFan
          Intuition over Integers
          • Jan 2004
          • 15077

          Re: Granger traded to Philly

          Originally posted by Tom White
          Philly is not the "city of brotherly love" it used to be made out to be. You gotta remember, this is the city whose football fans pummeled Santa Claus with snowballs at a game. The fans in that town are relentlessly harsh.
          The city never had brotherly love. It's named after a city in Turkey. The word derives from the Greek philo (love) and delphi (brother). Etymology is the closest that place ever came to kindness.
          "Look, it's up to me to put a team around ... Lance right now." —Kevin Pritchard press conference

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          • Ace E.Anderson
            Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 18261

            Re: Granger traded to Philly

            Originally posted by BlueNGold
            Want the cold hard truth? Bird does not think highly of Granger's work ethic and doesn't believe he's going to make it back this year. He needs a wing who can produce down the stretch...and he just got one.
            What you said is definitely the cold hard truth, but saying that Bird didn't think highly of Granger's work ethic is a bit bush league. Bird made ONE comment referring to Danny's work in the off season, and now all of a sudden Bird doesn't think highly of Danny's work ethic and this went into his decision of trading him? No, Bird got an offer he couldn't refuse because it put the franchise in a prime position this year and this summer, and decided to trade a guy that he called his favorite and a solider.

            Being the guy that Bird is, he would have moved Danny a long time ago if he thought that negatively of his work ethic. The fact that Danny has been able to even come back to play NBA basketball from such a bad injury takes a strong work ethic in itself.

            I know you and other posters have a problem with Danny, his game, etc. He's easily been the most debated player within this forum. But to constantly try and question his work ethic due to ONE comment by Bird rubs me the wrong way for some reason. (Not to jump on BnG because it wasn't just his posting that's implied this)

            At the end of the day, Danny isn't what he used to be. We all know that. Some of us just feel he could've been put in a better position to succeed as opposed to standing in the corner watching Lance dribble, or looking to pad his stats against bench players. It's a matter of opinion. But let's not make it seem like Danny's game after his injury has something to do with a lack of work ethic, because that's just false.

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            • BlueNGold
              Banned
              • Aug 2005
              • 32249

              Re: Granger traded to Philly

              Originally posted by Ace E.Anderson
              What you said is definitely the cold hard truth, but saying that Bird didn't think highly of Granger's work ethic is a bit bush league. Bird made ONE comment referring to Danny's work in the off season, and now all of a sudden Bird doesn't think highly of Danny's work ethic and this went into his decision of trading him? No, Bird got an offer he couldn't refuse because it put the franchise in a prime position this year and this summer, and decided to trade a guy that he called his favorite and a solider.

              Being the guy that Bird is, he would have moved Danny a long time ago if he thought that negatively of his work ethic. The fact that Danny has been able to even come back to play NBA basketball from such a bad injury takes a strong work ethic in itself.

              I know you and other posters have a problem with Danny, his game, etc. He's easily been the most debated player within this forum. But to constantly try and question his work ethic due to ONE comment by Bird rubs me the wrong way for some reason. (Not to jump on BnG because it wasn't just his posting that's implied this)

              At the end of the day, Danny isn't what he used to be. We all know that. Some of us just feel he could've been put in a better position to succeed as opposed to standing in the corner watching Lance dribble, or looking to pad his stats against bench players. It's a matter of opinion. But let's not make it seem like Danny's game after his injury has something to do with a lack of work ethic, because that's just false.
              There are only so many statements from Bird to determine his mindset. All I can say is that his quote wasn't one statement but several and was 2 months before Granger was traded. IOW, it's the best view of his opinion on the matter afaic.

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              • owl
                Member
                • Mar 2004
                • 17151

                Re: Granger traded to Philly

                Originally posted by ThA HoyA
                I really thought at the time it was about giving lance enough opportunities to make the all start team. However he's continued that style of play, lance is out there to get his stats up and get as big of a contract as he can. I don't blame him for that one bit.

                Our coach needs to do a better job of reeling him in to play how he was playing at the beginning of the season. I hope lance can make the adjustment as I love what lance brings but I know realistically he is playing to win but he's playing for a big payday as well.

                getting turner is great but our weakness still remain in the carelessness and 1-1 ball the starting unit has been playing.
                I believe playing winning basketball would get him a bigger contract. If the team wins he wins. Not hero ball.
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                • khaos01207
                  ^v^
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 8314

                  Re: Granger traded to Philly



                  Been doing some digging today.
                  Holy ****.
                  #LanceEffect

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                  • khaos01207
                    ^v^
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 8314

                    Re: Granger traded to Philly



                    Nice little game winner
                    #LanceEffect

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                    • Kuq_e_Zi91
                      Thank you, Danny.
                      • May 2008
                      • 2563

                      Re: Granger traded to Philly

                      Originally posted by khaos01207
                      Not to nitpick, because he did make them, but that's a lot of contested mid-range jumpers. And on the GW, he drew a triple team and took the shot anyway, blowing off a wide open Thad Young under the rim and Hawes at the top of the key. Gets the bounce, but still not a high % shot.
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                      • BlueNGold
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 32249

                        Re: Granger traded to Philly

                        He's got a very, very nice handle. I didn't realize that. I tend to wonder if he could play PG. His assist numbers are slightly better than George Hill.

                        His rebound numbers are also very good. What we have here is another good, well rounded basketball player.

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                        • khaos01207
                          ^v^
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 8314

                          Re: Granger traded to Philly

                          Originally posted by Kuq_e_Zi91
                          Not to nitpick, because he did make them, but that's a lot of contested mid-range jumpers. And on the GW, he drew a triple team and took the shot anyway, blowing off a wide open Thad Young under the rim and Hawes at the top of the key. Gets the bounce, but still not a high % shot.
                          Dude makes some very tough shots.

                          On a team like the Sixers the mentality is pretty much do as good as you personally can so that your next contract is on a better team making more money.

                          I like what he adds to the team, and he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that has the potential to make a problem in the locker room. He also has those games that it just seems he can't miss, and a lot of these have actually come against some pretty good competition. Tag all of that along with the fact that we seem to have a very good player development staff and I see a damn good fit.

                          If Lance gets stupid money thrown at him we have a plan B, and not a crappy one either. This trade from purely a basketball perspective was so damn good by Larry, it's just a shame it had to come at the expense of one of our favorites.
                          #LanceEffect

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                          • khaos01207
                            ^v^
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 8314

                            Re: Granger traded to Philly

                            Originally posted by BlueNGold
                            He's got a very, very nice handle. I didn't realize that. I tend to wonder if he could play PG. His assist numbers are slightly better than George Hill.

                            His rebound numbers are also very good. What we have here is another good, well rounded basketball player.
                            Yeah he does, those handles are very tight, very solid.

                            This team is going to be damn near impossible to beat 4 out of 7 if they round into form.
                            #LanceEffect

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                            • Taterhead
                              Member
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 2302

                              Re: Granger traded to Philly

                              Originally posted by Mourning
                              Except it wasn't even near three months since he first returned ;-).

                              Eleazer is correct. These sort of injuries in the NBA usually take players a lot longer to get back into some sort of good form with consistency. Bird apparently was worried about that aswell as Lance getting some moronic offer from another franchise in the summer, so he got a player to go to plan B if plan A with Lance falls apart.


                              That's the way I see it. No need to blame Danny though, he was still in the middle of trying to get back from a very harsh injury, which takes a lot of time. And he got a raw deal, unfortunately, after all he's done for this franchise. No need for "but's" IMHO, because that's just how it is. And I guess that's just how life is sometimes and everyone has to recover and move on and see where we are at now.
                              It has actually been more like 4-5. They were saying he was gonna be ready at the start of the season. It has been 10 months since he had surgery.
                              "Don't get caught watchin' the paint dry"

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                              • PacerPenguins
                                Member
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 7018

                                Re: Granger traded to Philly

                                Danny Granger ‏@dgranger33
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