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  • 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

    We roll on today with the third of our 2013 NBA draft profiles, this time highlighting the diminutive but dynamic guard from Murray State, Isaiah Canaan. I have already profiled Gorgui Dieng and Alan Crabbe in this series, you can find my scouting reports on them, as well as all past scouting reports I have done in previous years, elsewhere on this site.

    Measuring in at 6'0 and weighing 188lbs at the draft combine, Canaan is on the smaller end of the point guard spectrum. I do believe however from both my research and my own eyes that he played at a weight of right at 200lbs, so I question his measured weight a little bit. He makes up for his lack of height by being a really good leaper, in fact he measured an impressive 40.5 inch vertical in Chicago. Born on July 29, 1991, Canaan will turn 22 years old before his rookie year begins, having played all 4 years at Murray State University down in Kentucky.

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    Canaan profiles as an absolute offensive scorer at the point guard position.

    Averaging 22.4 ppg for the best program in the Ohio Valley Conference, Canaan's scoring instincts and abilities absolutely wil translate to the next level, in my opinion. While shooting an impressive 37.1% from 3 point range as a senior sounds really good, it actually was the worst he had done in college. In his previous year playing for the Racers, he shot a remarkable 45.6% from deep, even more impressive when you consider he shot almost 8 attempts per game from downtown as a high usage player in the Racers scheme.

    This is worth noting: much like Butler and Ohio State (among others), Murray State is an extreme example of teams that run a very heavy dose of "ball screen motion" offense. So, much more than most guards, Canaan has been exposed to the intricacies of how to use ballscreens at a more advanced level than many of his fellow draftees.

    Canaan is adept as a shooter coming right off of a ballscreen. Absolutely lethal if his defender goes under the screen, Canaan is very good at taking the one hard pound dribble, then elevating high over the defense to get his jumper off accurately. Canaan also is extremely good at "splittling" the ballscreen action, due to his superior strength, balance, and ballhandling skills. He already possesses many of the tricks of the trade in terms of how to properly use the ballscreen as an attacker with the bounce.

    Canaan is not a superior freak athlete, but I think his attributes are more FUNCTIONAL than most players. Unlike a player who who is an outstanding leaper but doesnt play well enough to use that skill in games, Canaan makes use of his athleticism in the natural process of playing. For instance, Canaan gets extremely high elevation on his jump shot (especially off the dribble), and gets very low with great knee bend with the dribble, with along with his naturally low center of gravity really helps his ballhandling and strength/balance qoutients.

    Canaan possesses an outstanding ability to score off pick and roll, and to just shoot the ball from deep in general. He will also be an effective floor spacer at the NBA level, and will be a player that teams will absolutely not be able to routinely double off of. He will be a scoring weapon in shorter spurts.

    As he does rely alot on his ability to shoot the jump shot, and since his legs are heavily involved for him as a shooter, I would be somewhat concerned about his long term longevity. But as long as he isnt injured and is in his 20's, I do not feel that is a concern for the team that drafts him.

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    Though I definitely like Canaan as a potential scorer, no one can claim at this point that he is a particularly clever passer. He definitely is a score first type of point guard.

    Canaan struggles to see the entire floor, especially with his ability to make the "throw back" pass. He tends to see only what is directly in front of him, and he tends to try and pass in the direction of his dribble.....if he is driving right, he tends to pass to the right, if he is driving left, he throws left....he needs to play with more vision and imagination as a passer/creator, and Im not sure he has that in him.

    He will need to develop some better sight lines, a bit better game knowledge on how to play better in a crowd, and how to pass better with his off hand. The ability pass with either hand is big for a high level point guard, and right now he is pretty right handed as a passer.

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    Defensively, he has both good and bad attributes.

    On the bad side, he doesnt seem to have a great lateral slide in his first or second movement. He isnt slow exactly, but he is squatty and doesnt always cover as much ground as you'd ideally like. I also dont think his hands are active enough, as he keeps them too low and too stationary for my taste. he needs to pump his arms more and be more physically aggressive defensively, which he can do at this level because he will no doubt play much fewer minutes at the NBA level.

    But what he does have is, again, really good balance and strength along with functional jumping ability.

    I think his strength and balance mean that he will be able to fight guys inside in the post well, so I dont expect his height to be a major problem in the low post if the opponent tries to jack him up in there. I also think that he will be strong enough to body up with drivers and not get "spun" off of or overpowered like so many smaller guard do.

    I think he will be a 23 foot and in type of point guard, who will doggedly be able to defend inside the 3 point line, play the angles, and be physical. His balance and leaping ability add the bonus of being able to contest /pullups when teams try and drive him and simply shoot over him.....he should be able to stop on a dime and elevate with the shooters early in his career as long as he is ideal shape and health.

    He will not be a passing lanes hounding, pressuring the ball hard and fast, difference making defender for you, but I do think he will be ok vs almost all backup type guards in the league and some starters, as the cut back in minutes and increase in focus should help him become a decent defender.

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    Canaan's background and character is worth mentioning here, as we are fans of a Pacers team built on high character guys.

    Canaan was in middle school when his hometown of Biloxi Mississippi was overwhelmed by Hurricane Katrina. With his father out of the picture and his mother in Atlanta, Canaan lived with his Grandmother.

    They abandoned their home when the storm was coming, and took refuge in the attic of their local Baptist Church, where they attended services ever Sunday. Scrambling as high as they could go, young Isaiah peered out the windows and saw rooftops barely sticking up out of the water. Canaan knew he might have to possibly swim for his life as the waters continued to rise. Mentioning that, his Grandma told him to do what he must, but that she would have to stay there because she had never learned to swim. 14 year old Isaiah began to cry. He stayed with his Grandma, who told him that "we are in the hands of "God now".

    The water soon reached them, breaching the attic and creeping up to ankle deep, flooding the lower bowels of the church below. But somewhat miraculously, the waters never got any higher, and while standing to their calves in the dirty Katrina water, the water began to recede, and a men in a boat soon came along and rescued all of them.

    Isaiah left for a while to go back to Atlanta with his mother, while his Grandma stayed in the devastated Biloxi, the only home she knew. Homesick and needed by his Grandmother, Canaan (pronounced "Cannon" by the way) soon went back to Mississippi and lived with his Grandma as soon as she was given a small trailer by FEMA.

    Eventually, his high school team kind of helped the spirit of the town by going on to a state championship. Recruited by Murray State early on due to their assistant coach being from the area (he eventually became the head man there), soon offers began to pour in late in the process by the bigger name SEC schools. But Canaan remained loyal to the first school who showed interest in him, and off to Southeastern Kentucky he went.

    By all accounts, Canaan is a smart, well respected and respectful, dynamic personality that people gravitate to. He has shown a loyalty and toughness in his life similar to the devastating personal life of last years pick for us, Orlando Johnson. You have to root for guys like this, whether or not they end up on your team or somewhere else.

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    So, what do we have in Isaiah Canaan?

    I think we have a scoring/offensive type of point guard who specializes in screen/roll offense and who is a very good perimeter shooter, with a dynamic personality and inner toughness and character that fits in well with our culture in Indianapolis. He is an above average ballhandler, below average passer at this time, and with the physical attributes to be a league average defender in the right system with the right teammates. He seems like a starting point guard on a bad team, or a really nice backup on a good team. To me, a clear upgrade on what we've had last year.

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    Should we draft him at #23? Will we draft him?

    I think who we draft this year has to be figured into the following equation: We need a bigger wing scorer, we need a backup 4 man who ideally could play in a couple of different roles (either as a stretch 4 if we wanted or as a 4/5), and we need a backup point guard.

    We need to add three players to this team, ideally, and we have limited funds to do so. So, one of these players needs to come in this draft, and the others can come in free agency or internally somehow. If you want to sign a free agent wing or big, then you need to draft a point guard. If you want to fill out your point guard spot in free agency or a trade somehow, then you don't draft a point guard.

    One move must lead to the other.

    I do like Canaan and think he fits well with our current style of play and with what we need our backup to be. I'd rather have a better defender ideally or someone a bit bigger, but for a backup point guard I think he will give us strong play in that role and would be a good pick. His personality, self confidence, and ability to be the best player for his teams his entire life gives him the "Onions" I think to play on a big stage.

    Despite him being rated lower than our pick in all the mock drafts, I have no problem with us taking him at #23. There may be others I like just as much if not more, but you'll have to read the rest of the previews that are coming to find out!

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    Having said all of that, I don't necessarily think that our front office will agree with me. I expect Indiana to go in another direction and pass on Canaan at #23.

    My guess is Canaan does go in the first round though....I think he ends up either with the Knicks at #24 or the Spurs at pick #28. My prediction is that Canaan is in San Antonio next year.

    NBA comparable: Raymond Felton



    The above, as always, is just my opinion.

    Tbird

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    Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

    oooh sounds like the type of dude I want. College guys that excel in the pick and roll usually always translate to the NBA. I also expect the pick and roll to be a bigger part of our offense next season after seeing Roy playing so well in the Heat series.

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      Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

      These are the best part of the offseason!
      BillS

      A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
      Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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        Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

        If we can't get Jarrett Jack, Mo Williams, or Devin Harris, I am fine with drafting Isaiah Canaan to be out back-up PG

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          Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

          given where we draft....will we likely find a quality rotatioanl player that is a PG, WingMan or PF spot?

          In other words....what type of draft is this? A draft with a lot more quality PG, SG/SF or PF late in the draft?
          Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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            Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

            Originally posted by thunderbird1245 View Post
            We need to add three players to this team, ideally, and we have limited funds to do so. So, one of these players needs to come in this draft, and the others can come in free agency or internally somehow. If you want to sign a free agent wing or big, then you need to draft a point guard. If you want to fill out your point guard spot in free agency or a trade somehow, then you don't draft a point guard.
            This right here is the crux of the issue for all of us who love the planning & strategizing in the off-season as much as (or even more than) the play during the season. We can only guess at all the back-channel talk going on with agents of FAs to be, but we CAN focus on the skills and perceived potential of upcoming draftees and form opinions accordingly.

            I've caught myself locking into win-now mode (i.e., next year), given our team's relative success this year ... but recently I've taken a step back and wondered how my wish list would change if I instead focus on having the team peak in TWO years. In other words, not too raw (e.g., Adetokunbo), but good developmental potential at the expense of being maximally developed. Dieng, Crabbe and Canaan all fit this description, I think. The Granger issue is even more of a guess by then, but regardless, maybe we need to remain patient and be open to a draft pick who can contribute modestly next season and then become a key rotation player the following year. I'd love to see a sign (trade up?) that TPTB have fallen in love with someone -- go get him and then let the FA pursuits go where they may.
            Last edited by DrFife; 06-09-2013, 06:04 PM.


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            • #7
              Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

              Hm. You sound pretty high on him - it seems odd that a player like this would be here this late in the 1st round?
              Peck is basically omniscient when it comes to understanding how the minds of Herb Simon and Kevin Pritchard work. I was a fool to ever question him and now feel deep shame for not understanding that this team believes in continuity above talent.

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                Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

                He seems like a guy a team like the Spurs would take, and to me that means he should be an option for us!

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                • #9
                  Just watched highlights on him! Looks like a baller! Maybe like OJ we'll get lucky and be able to nab him in the 2nd. May have to move up to make it happen.

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                    Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

                    Originally posted by 2minutes twoa View Post
                    Just watched highlights on him! Looks like a baller! Maybe like OJ we'll get lucky and be able to nab him in the 2nd. May have to move up to make it happen.
                    If point guards are on the list then I suspect we will see a Wolters evaluation coming up. I believe there are many directions for the team
                    To take. I wonder with Orlando Johnson already on the roster if they lean more toward a big at 23 instead of a shooting guard or small forward type. Offensively is where the Pacers were lacking so unless they get a Korver maybe they go that direction. The two teams in the finals both freely shoot the three. I know many are not fans of the three but it can be potent part of the mix and if the Pacers had a real
                    Weapon in that regard that makes the interior game more free.
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                      Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

                      Originally posted by DrFife View Post
                      This right here is the crux of the issue for all of us who love the planning & strategizing in the off-season as much as (or even more than) the play during the season. We can only guess at all the back-channel talk going on with agents of FAs to be, but we CAN focus on the skills and perceived potential of upcoming draftees and form opinions accordingly.
                      I do find this time of the year very interesting as you do. This year is very interesting because there are several players who will help the team
                      So Tbirds write ups are awesome.
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                        Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

                        He's a 2nd rounder. I'd be shocked to see a team guarantee him. But, I was shocked Pacers guaranteed Plumlee.

                        With that said, I'd take a flier on him if available in the 2nd rnd.
                        Last edited by Pacer Fan; 06-09-2013, 09:28 PM.
                        Garbage players get 1st round picks, (WTF)! All of the NBA must hate the Pacers! LOL

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                          Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

                          Originally posted by thunderbird1245 View Post
                          . . . I think who we draft this year has to be figured into the following equation: We need a bigger wing scorer, we need a backup 4 man who ideally could play in a couple of different roles (either as a stretch 4 if we wanted or as a 4/5), and we need a backup point guard.

                          We need to add three players to this team, ideally, and we have limited funds to do so. So, one of these players needs to come in this draft, and the others can come in free agency or internally somehow. If you want to sign a free agent wing or big, then you need to draft a point guard. If you want to fill out your point guard spot in free agency or a trade somehow, then you don't draft a point guard.

                          One move must lead to the other. . .
                          This paragraph needs to be stuck [stickyed (sic)] to every off-season thread this summer. Concise, easy to understand explanation of what the Pacers have to do this off-season.

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                            Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

                            I read somewhere we have penciled him in for a workout already.... Accurate?
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                              Re: 2013 NBA draft profile #3: Isaiah Canaan

                              Originally posted by owl View Post
                              If point guards are on the list then I suspect we will see a Wolters evaluation coming up. I believe there are many directions for the team
                              To take. I wonder with Orlando Johnson already on the roster if they lean more toward a big at 23 instead of a shooting guard or small forward type. Offensively is where the Pacers were lacking so unless they get a Korver maybe they go that direction. The two teams in the finals both freely shoot the three. I know many are not fans of the three but it can be potent part of the mix and if the Pacers had a real
                              Weapon in that regard that makes the interior game more free.
                              I am inclined to believe that we'd go with a PF with the 23rd pick ( given our lack of depth at the PF spot )...but I think that the FO will always go with the BPA....which in our case, is okay...since any position...minus the Center spot....could help in the long term.
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