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    5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks


    FINISH THEM!


    -VS-


    Game Time Start: 8:00 PM ET
    Where: The Fieldhouse, Indianapolis, IN
    Officials: K. Mauer, E. Malloy, T. Washington, S. Wright

    Television:
    Radio: WFNI 1070 AM / WEPN 98.7 FM
    Media Notes: Indiana Notes, New York Notes
    NBA Feeds:

    REMINDER: Per PD policy, please do not share a link to, describe how to search for, request a link to, or request a PM about streaming video of a NBA game that is not coming directly through the NBA. Not even in a "wink-wink, nudge-nudge, know-what-I-mean" round-about sort of way. Thank you


    3
    56-36
    Home: 35-11
    2
    60-33
    Away: 25-21
    GAME 7
    May 20 -8:00 PM
    HIBBERT
    WEST
    GEORGE
    STEPHENSON
    AUGUSTIN
    CHANDLER
    ANTHONY
    SHUMPERT
    FELTON
    PRIGIONI


    PACERS
    Danny Granger - left knee surgery (out)
    George Hill - concussion (game-time decision)



    KNICKS
    No injuries to report




    Jared Wade: Brain Injuries and When George Hill Will Play Next

    I’ve got to plead some ignorance when it comes to both head injuries and the NBA’s
    new(ish) concussion protocol. I didn’t know much about either before this morning. I’m
    still no expert, but, ya know, baby steps.

    Like many people, I read Malcolm Gladwell’s 2009 New Yorker piece on concussions and
    recoiled in horror. Since then, I have watched the science develop from afar, my
    relationship with football growing more morally ambivalent, my understanding of brain
    trauma evolving with time, my agony at hearing the news of a player suicide recurring
    too often.

    When I heard that Junior Seau killed himself, time froze.

    Not Junior.

    I was a 49ers fan growing up (still am), and the 1994 team — with Deion and Merton
    Hanks doing that swag stuff, before we knew it was a word, before it became the new-
    millenium “gnarly” — was my favorite thing ever. I’m surprised I didn’t wind up in the
    hospital with a snapped neck trying to do that Merton Hanks dance in my bedroom.

    The only aspect of their Super Bowl rout over the Chargers that bothered me was that
    it happened to Junior.

    I was such a fan. Who wasn’t? ... Man. Kick to the gut.

    It was just over a year ago. I was in Miami, attending a business convention about
    weather. Three days later, I would drive four hours north to watch the Pacers beat
    the Magic in Orlando in round one of the playoffs. I remember thinking about Junior,
    and more his mom, her soul wailing on live television, during that long drive, alone,
    whipping a rental at 90 through the dull Florida swampland, hoping to shave enough
    minutes off of the commute to make it in time to listen to Stan Van Gundy speak to
    the media before the two o’clock tip.

    (I made it. He was funny and Van Gundyian. The Pacers almost collapsed but won in
    overtime. The Magic have a nice arena. I enjoyed the trip.)

    This is all preamble to say that my understanding of concussions is little, and my
    emotional reaction to them is large. In the past year, I’ve seen a few 60 Minutes-type
    pieces, read a few magazine features and tried to keep up on the phenomenal work my
    bros Beckley Mason and Henry Abbott have done on basketball-related concussions over
    at TrueHoop.

    But, mostly, my outlook on concussions has more to do with the memory of watching
    Junior Seau’s mom fall to pieces on live TV last May than it has to do with actual
    knowledge of how the human brain is affected by blunt-force trauma.

    Like a good little pretend journalist, however, I’ve tried to do my research on the matter
    before trying to add any insight to the George Hill situation.


    After suffering a concussion when colliding with a Tyson Chandler screen during the
    1st quarter of Game 4 (video of the play above), he was a late scratch from yesterday’s
    attempted close-out game against the Knicks    . The Pacers proceeded to
    play like a team that lost the only reliable point guard on their roster.

    It was gross basketball that I did not care to watch. It was a laughable display of
    turnovers, really.

    The team seems to badly need Hill. If he can’t play, that significantly ups the likelihood
    that the Knicks can pull off an improbable come back after trailing 3-1 in this series.

    It’s bad news. But while I get that basketball is not football, mostly, it’s bad news for
    George Hill. Not the Indiana Pacers. Not the Indiana Pacers fans.

    Again, I don’t know crap about crap when it comes to brain trauma, but I’m a
    precautionary principle guy through and through, so my instincts tell me that, if Hill
    isn’t 100 percent, he shouldn’t be playing basketball in the next few days. Maybe not in
    the next few weeks.

    This series is a giant moment for the Pacers franchise, but this is a man’s brain health.
    That’s not about walking around with pain in your knee everyday when you’re 54 years
    old. It’s a lot bigger.

    That said, we have no idea how severe this concussion was. As I’ve come to understand
    it, since he flew to New York and went through shootaround and was walking around the
    arena and talking to people before the game, that means his symptoms were likely mild.
    But, as I’ve come to understand it, the lack of severity of symptoms doesn’t necessarily
    mean the recovery time will be...CONTINUE READING AT 8p9s

    Dylan Murphy: KnicksTape - The D.J. Augustin Effect

    ...and other keys to New York's Game 5 performance.

    It wasn't pretty. Okay, it was ugly. The game was probably closer than it should have
    been. But it was a win. One more of those things in which the Knicks score more
    points than the other team, and it's off to Game 7 at home. Hope is a nice thing,
    sometimes.

    The important question - as it pertains to Game 6 - is how do the Knicks carry this
    momentum over? Why was last night different from all other nights?

    George Hill Didn't Play

    1) It wasn't just his offense and his punishing three-pointers after careless double
    teams. Indiana felt his absence defensively, because D.J. Augustin simply wasn't able
    to corral New York's pick-and-roll offense. Hill is long and rangy and bothersome;
    even when Chandler or Martin was able to make solid contact on screens, he and
    Hibbert were able to box in Felton and create this uncomfortable wedge that didn't
    lend itself to passing lanes. But more often than that, Hill managed to blow up the
    pick-and-roll entirely by icing it, as in this sequence from Game 3:


    Notice the angle Hill takes as Chandler comes to set the screen. It isn't just that he's
    forcing Felton left; he spins his head around, feels the screen and angles Felton away
    from the screen. This forces Felton into an open space at the left elbow at half-
    speed, because he can't just go right into Hibbert. Hill, then, is able to fight through
    any Chandler contact and recover:


    The easiest way to beat the pick-and-roll ice is with a quick pass to the top of the
    key. The sort-of-double team leaves the big man wide open for a pick-and-pop, as
    opposed to roll. But Tyson Chandler, save for one jumper in this series, will not take
    that shot. Kicking the ball out to him on that spot of the floor renders the entire play
    moot. In this play, Felton's pass to Chandler - which already signaled the end of the
    action - was intercepted by Paul George:


    What Did D.J. Augustin Do?

    1) A lot of nothing, defensively. He knocked down his usual handful of threes and ran
    the offense with moderate effectiveness, but he basically bent to Raymond Felton's
    will at every turn...CONTINUE READING AT POSTING AND TOASTING

    Zach Lowe: We Went There - A Fine Mess at Madison Square Garden

    This … this was not a fun, attractive, or well-played NBA game. The Pacers, turnover-
    prone all season and barely able to handle the ball without George Hill, committed 19
    turnovers and seemed to be on the verge of losing the ball on every possession. The
    Knicks committed 30 fouls, about 10 more than the average team commits in a game,
    and at one point in the third quarter, I think every player had at least four fouls. It was
    truly awful. There were so many low points that the entire game transformed during
    some third-quarter nadir into a 48-minute-long low point.

    It happened around the 4:45 mark of the third quarter, where my meticulous notes
    about X's and O's and crowd tomfoolery abruptly stop and transition into a single
    harrowing sentence: “I have no idea what is going on right now.”

    I reviewed the sequence in question on film after the game. Here is what happened:
    J.R. Smith drove and threw a jump pass to the Pacers. He does not play for the Pacers.
    David West recovered the ball and threw ahead to D.J. Augustin, starting in Hill’s place
    and streaking at this very moment down the left wing in a perfect two-on-one, Paul
    George trailing him at the foul line (not an ideal position) and only Chris Copeland
    between them. But Copeland is at least eight inches taller than Augustin and sort of
    spooked him. So Augustin tried a ridiculous airborne lefty behind-the-back pass to
    George, only he threw it way behind George, and the ball rolled toward the opposite
    sideline.

    George picked it up. That’s good! He drove in for a layup, and missed when Kenyon
    Martin mounted a strong challenge at the rim. That’s bad. The Knicks ran out, and
    Raymond Felton hit Copeland for a wide-open transition 3-pointer. He missed. Felton,
    who can barely jump, outleapt Augustin for the rebound, volleyballed it back off the
    top of the backboard, whacked at it again when it came down, finally grabbed it, and
    then dished it back out to Smith for a 3-pointer so open I might have been able to
    get rim.

    Smith hit the side of the backboard. Or if he hit rim, he barely grazed the left side of
    it. West and Ian Mahinmi, a very tall center, were so befuddled by the severity of
    Smith’s miss, they let Copeland slip in for the rebound and putback basket. The
    Pacers called a timeout, and Edie Falco was delighted. Fin.

    But there was so much more. Augustin threw a laser beam of an entry pass at Roy
    Hibbert’s feet in the first half. Lance Stephenson just fell down with the ball in crunch
    time, and we can only hope he’s not injured. Gerald Green, dusted off out of
    desperation, threw two consecutive post entry passes directly to players wearing the
    opposing jersey. With the game still within reach, both Hibbert and West tossed
    amazingly errant passes out of the post as the Knicks, who mostly scrapped hard
    double-teams tonight, showed hints of some trapping in crunch time. They actually
    did trap Hibbert on the left block with about eight minutes to go, and Hibbert, pinched
    toward the sideline, kicked the ball out to a shooter with something that was closer to
    a roll than a pass. It looked like Hibbert was skipping a stone, and the ball skidded
    out of bounds along the near sideline.

    Another sequence midway through the third quarter went like this: George, under very
    tight pressure from Iman Shumpert, couldn’t find a clean passing lane to West, who
    was wrestling underneath with Martin. George gave up and tried the Kevin Durant rip
    move, only he lost control of the ball and flung it high into the air. Felton caught it on
    the other side of the floor and passed ahead to Copeland for a fast break, which
    promptly ended when Copeland simultaneously committed a charging foul and threw
    a crosscourt pass about 15 feet from his target and out of bounds.

    Indiana was still somehow only down by eight with 1:25 left when they entered the
    ball to West, who struggled in the second half after a strong start. West saw a double-
    team coming and alertly kicked the ball out to George on the perimeter. Problem:
    George had just moved from the spot where West threw the ball, and it went into the
    backcourt for a violation. It was a fitting end to a terrible game — a game in which
    the Pacers shot 19-of-33 from the foul line. “If we make our free throws,” Indiana
    coach Frank Vogel said afterward, “it’s a different game.” He added this very apt
    summary of tonight’s events: “We had a lot of problems. We didn’t play a good
    basketball game.”

    After the game, Hibbert was sitting at his locker, head bowed, lamenting to Danny
    Granger that “we should have won” over and over. Hibbert played only 31 minutes
    and spent much of the game in foul trouble, and at least one of his fouls — his fifth
    — was the sort of straight-up block the referees have generally been allowing him
    this season. I asked Hibbert if the refs officiated him differently tonight. He
    wouldn’t take the bait. “What did you think?” he asked. I said the fifth foul was
    shaky given precedent...READ MORE AT GRANTLAND

    Beckley Mason: Ben Hansbrough before his big shot

    Pacers coach Frank Vogel must have known the first question he’d hear from the media
    assembled at MSG for Knicks-Pacers Game 5 would concern concussed point guard
    George Hill.

    How would the Pacers replace their best ballhandler and distributor?

    He was ready with a response.

    D.J. Augstin would start in Hill’s place, but replacing him would be a group effort, a
    group that included rarely used rookie Ben Hansbrough. Not only would Hansbrough be
    the backup point, but Vogel said “We could still play Ben and D.J. together. Ben is not
    just looked at as a backup for D.J.. If you play Lance Stephenson as the backup one,
    you need to replace your wing minutes because Lance is going to play less at wing.
    Your options go to Orlando Johnson, Gerald Green, Sam Young in extended minutes.
    We could even use Ben and a smaller guard to counter their two point guard attack.”

    Did you hear that?!

    Ben Hansbrough was going to get real minutes, not this garbage time stuff.

    Flash back two years, and Ben is the reigning Big East Player of the Year. After his
    stellar senior campaign in South Bend, the Notre Dame point guard seemed like a
    lock to make the league, and stay on as a backup combo guard with real range. I
    shamelessly, relentlessly promoted this possibility on Twitter.

    That future never came to be. Instead, Hansbrough went to play in Germany for
    Bayern Munich. Ben couldn’t get on the court, and there was speculation he couldn’t
    get on with his coach at Bayern, and was released midway through the season. As
    Eurobasket put it:
    Sometimes even when there seems to be a positive trend in the play
    with a player, it doesn’t necessarily mean that everything is blooming
    like a beautiful moon flower blooming in moonlight.

    So true. Ben hopped over to Slovenia and Krka Novo Mesto, but didn’t even last a
    month before leaving for personal reasons.

    All that didn’t matter...CONTINUE READING AT HOOPSPEAK

    Curtis Harris: ProHoopsHistory HOF - George McGinnis

    If this were the NBA Hall of Fame, then George McGinnis likely wouldn’t be a member of
    the club. He definitely had a fine NBA career. Over his first four NBA seasons McGinnis
    averaged 22 points, 11.5 rebounds, 4 assists, and 2 steals a game. He was a member of
    the All-NBA 1st Team, made the All-Star game, and along with Julius Erving helped lead
    the Philadelphia 76ers to the 1977 NBA Finals.

    After those first four seasons, McGinnis quickly faded. He lasted only three more
    seasons averaging 10.7 points, 7.5 rebounds, 3.4 assists, and 1.4 steals. Not bad
    numbers by any means, but it’s not blowing anyone away.

    But that’s just McGinnis’ NBA career. If you take in his days in the ABA, you don’t just
    have a pretty good career. You achieve Hall of Fame status. As a rookie on the Indiana
    Pacers in 1972, McGinnis helped push the Pacers to the ABA title. The next season
    (1973), McGinnis was named the Finals MVP as the Pacers once again won the ABA title.
    By 1974 he was a member of the All-ABA 1st Team. In 1975 he was awarded the
    league’s regular season MVP award after averaging an absurd 30 points, 14 rebounds,
    6 assists and 2.5 steals a game.

    After that mammoth season, McGinnis jumped ship to the NBA where the Philadelphia
    76ers were ecstatic to receive an MVP caliber player:


    As his averages attest, McGinnis was one of the finest all-around players basketball has
    ever seen...CONTINUE READING AT PRO HOOPS HISTORY




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    Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

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    I know "Sleeze" is spelled incorrectly. I spell it this way because it's based on a name.

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    • #3
      Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

      Biggest game of the season so far.

      Limit the turnovers, hit your FTs, secure your passes, hit your 3s.

      Let's gooooooooooo!!!!!

      Originally posted by IrishPacer
      Empty vessels make the most noise.

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      • #4
        Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

        I expect you'll win this game, with or without Hill.

        I'd be shocked if either team shoots particularly well so the keys will come down to turnovers and rebounds. If you keep your TO's down and dominate the boards it'll be yours. I think you will, you're too well coached.

        Looking forward to attending the game, I imagine it'll be a madhouse.
        The poster formerly known as Rimfire

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        • #5
          Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

          not gonna be easy without hill. no need to say a must win i guess. we lose we are done imo.

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          • #6
            Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

            soooo nervous, hope Hibbert makes Chandler his b****. I want to win just to see Chandlers sry *** disappointed.

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            • #7
              Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

              So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

              If you've done 6 impossible things today?
              Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!

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              • #8
                Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                Its all coming down to this.

                I cannot handle blowing a 3-1 lead against a team I feel we are much better than.

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                • #9
                  Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                  yes hill playing.

                  http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/hill-cleared-play-game-6

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                  • #10
                    Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                    Those damn missed FTs have driven me crazy this series. Massive improvement there needed and limiting the turnovers as much as possible.

                    I want to see West making an impression tonight,taking initiatives by posting and going to the basket and not losing highly makeable shots by his standards
                    Never forget

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                    • #11
                      Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                      I really hope Hill and the rest of the Pacers get one hell of an ovation from start to finish make it crazy loud inside that fieldhouse especially for hill during the starting lineup announcement

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                      • #12
                        Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                        If our crowd comes to play, I see no way we lose. Start to finish with a crazy atmosphere is hard for road teams to overcome.

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                        • #13
                          Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                          Make or break game of the series for mine.
                          Counting down the days untill DJ Augustin's contract expires.

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                          • #14
                            Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                            "I told him it's not worth playing even if he's cleared to play" -Derrick Rose-

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                            • #15
                              Re: 5/18/2013 NBA Playoffs, Second Round - Game Thread #6: Pacers Vs. Knicks

                              I fully expect this chant from the crowd tonight:

                              "Beat the Heat" "Beat the Heat"

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