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Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

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  • #46
    Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

    Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post
    careful there. One huge mistake the refs made in the real brawl was staying out of it. Something I will never forget or forgive.
    True. IMO they overdid it last night. Sure the shoving was directed into that corner so they didn't have much in causing the scuffle to go near fans, but it looked as though they (Hibbert & Lee) were just gonna go at it for a few shoves and be done, then again I don't think I'll ever know what Steph was thinking. He dragged Roy that direction and everyone else followed.
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    • #47
      Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

      Originally posted by Roaming Gnome View Post
      When I walked out of the arena bowl and seen Peck & Hicks talking, my face was so long I would've tripped over my bottom lip thinking Roy lost his friggin mind. Discussing it didn't help neither me or the Mrs. It wasn't until I got home and seen the video that I changed my mind and mood. Roy was completely justified in his actions... If it was just Lee and Hibbs with no intervention from the pip squeak brigade, this is just a typical NBA dust-up with double techs assessed. Roy didn't ask Curry to bum rush him... twice and he sure didn't ask to be shoved from behind by Klay Thompson & Jarret Jack.

      I guess I was worried more about the franchise revisiting the court of public opinion with the local media presenting the "facts". However, the local media outlets and especially the one that I work for has decided to treat this "scrum" like the fart in the wind that it is. It'll suck probably losing one maybe two of our guys for Thursday, but I'll take that knowing my man's balls finally dropped for all of us to see!

      Great win!

      I would have used the thanks button but it is not present so thanks for a summation of how I feel.
      Three of the Warriors guards all got into pushing Roy. Jack,Thompson and his basketball and Curry.
      Frankly I hope they all get belated technicals for escalating what was already over.
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      • #48
        Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

        Paul's numbers during this 5 game stretch

        19 PPG, 10 RPG, 6 APG 51% from the field 2SPG 1BPG

        Super. Star.


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        • #49
          Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

          Can someone explain to me why they think Roy is going to be suspended, beyond some cynical "the league is going to clamp down" assumption? Seriously I have watched the replay over and over and for the life of me I can't even figure out where the second tech came from.


          Maybe I just have homer glasses on but from what I saw Roy pushes David Lee (first tech), they bump shoulders, guys rush in, then Roy WALKS AWAY out of the meelee to the sideline. Curry comes at Roy once as Roy is walking away and Roy half-shoves, half-dodges him, then Curry comes straight at Roy a second time and Roy gives him a good shove out of the way. Roy's second shove was more emphatic, so maybe that's where the second tech came from (I don't agree, what the heck was he supposed to do, fall over?).


          Other than shoving Curry out of the way for coming at him, Roy does NOTHING. He makes a point TWICE to completely avoid the shoving match between the other players, I mean he actually removes himself from the action entirely and walks away.


          I just don't see how on earth this warrants a suspension for Roy unless the league decides they need to make an example out of someone, which I suppose is possible but by the letter of the law here I just don't see it.


          Again, help me take off my homer glasses and tell me where I'm wrong.


          BTW The game was AWESOME, I am not trying to overshadow this great win, but everyone here seems to be talking about the fight and potential aftermath and I am a little puzzled.

          EDIT: My post basically made PD explode all over my computer when I tried to embed the video, here is the link http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/89...anapolis-crowd

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          • #50
            Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

            Originally posted by rabidpacersfan
            Can someone explain to me why they think Roy is going to be suspended, beyond some cynical "the league is going to clamp down" assumption? Seriously I have watched the replay over and over and for the life of me I can't even figure out where the second tech came from.
            Because it looked a HELL of a whole lot worse in person than it did on tv. From my view, it looked like Roy had flung multiple Warriors around like ragdolls, you couldn't see Curry acting a fool and trying to go after Roy again after the first time he got launched.

            But I will say that I was proud of how the crowd adopted the old "Us Versus The World" attitude from the brawl year after Roy got tossed and no Warriors got the same treatment, and I think the team fed off that energy the rest of the way.
            Last edited by Sandman21; 02-27-2013, 01:07 PM.
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            • #51
              Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

              See it just din't look bad to me ever. Maybe it was where I was sitting, right at the free throw line of that end basically, but you could see it was mostly just shoving.


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              • #52
                Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

                Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
                See it just din't look bad to me ever. Maybe it was where I was sitting, right at the free throw line of that end basically, but you could see it was mostly just shoving.
                From the balcony, it looked awful. It literally looked like Roy was just tossing people. I was really, really relieved when I saw the replay.
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                • #53
                  Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

                  Originally posted by Sandman21 View Post
                  Because it looked a HELL of a whole lot worse in person than it did on tv. From my view, it looked like Roy had flung multiple Warriors around like ragdolls, you couldn't see Curry acting a fool and trying to go after Roy again after the first time he got launched.
                  Well OK, I get what you're saying, but any suspensions are going to be based on review of the video, so that's kind of irrelevant. And the comments about Roy getting suspended are on here the following day, with the benefit of hindsight, after watching the video.

                  EDIT: On TV it didn't look that bad, just a scuffle. Again I ask, specifically, what did Roy do that warrants a suspension
                  Last edited by rabid; 02-27-2013, 01:20 PM.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

                    Loving some of the folks on the radio right now lol.


                    MIAMI BEST WATCH OUT WHEN THEY HIT THAT WALL THAT IS DWEST AND ROY HIBBERT CAUSE IT'S GON' BE ON MAN


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                    • #55
                      Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

                      Espn radio here in Dallas was laughing at people calling it a brawl. They said teams from the late 80s and 90s would consider that defense. You have 2 Big strong guys hitting each other all game long, tempers fly and its a part of sports. We cannot expect grown men with flowing testosterone not to get pissed off.

                      They also were really hyping the pacers. They were asking if miami was pretty much guaranteed a championship since they have won 12 straight. It was simply put by several that they have to get through the pacers first who are their worst possible match up. Big, physical, and can rebound the ball.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

                        Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
                        Loving some of the folks on the radio right now lol.


                        MIAMI BEST WATCH OUT WHEN THEY HIT THAT WALL THAT IS DWEST AND ROY HIBBERT CAUSE IT'S GON' BE ON MAN
                        Did you hear the "conspiracy theory guy?" What the hell was that?
                        Passion. Pride. Patience. Pacers

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                        • #57
                          Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

                          Originally posted by BPump33 View Post
                          Did you hear the "conspiracy theory guy?" What the hell was that?
                          Didn't hear that guy, what was he talking about.


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                          • #58
                            Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

                            Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
                            Didn't hear that guy, what was he talking about.
                            He called in and said, "I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, but the NBA will never let the Pacers beat LeBron." Grady about lost it, telling him that's exactly what a conspiracy theory is. It also helped that the guy sounded drunk as hell at 11 a.m.
                            Passion. Pride. Patience. Pacers

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                            • #59
                              Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

                              Originally posted by BPump33 View Post
                              He called in and said, "I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, but the NBA will never let the Pacers beat LeBron." Grady about lost it, telling him that's exactly what a conspiracy theory is. It also helped that the guy sounded drunk as hell at 11 a.m.
                              lol

                              Best guy so far was crazy IU fan saying, I don't see this team beating ohio state at home and basically declaring the season over because of the Minny game.


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                              • #60
                                Re: Odd Thought's: Defiance (pummeling the Warriors)

                                Originally posted by Trader Joe View Post
                                lol

                                Best guy so far was crazy IU fan saying, I don't see this team beating ohio state at home and basically declaring the season over because of the Minny game.
                                I wonder if he used his Jump To Conclusions Mat for that.
                                Passion. Pride. Patience. Pacers

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