Hawks/Pacers postgame

[Johanvil]

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[PR07]

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Danny Granger is stunting Paul George's growth.

[rexnom]

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Why would we trade PG or Hibbert? The obvious trade chip is West.

[Kid Minneapolis]

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Calling for Vogel after five games is hilarious. Come on guys. That said, ya, we haven't been good.

We lost this game, but it was something we can build on. We outplayed them for large chunks of the game and actually had some offensive flow. I see things starting to come together a bit.

[Nuntius]

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[aamcguy]

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I only have two things to say about this game.

1) This sucks worse than Sacramento last year cuz their "comeback" took like 12 seconds.

2) Why did we stop running our offense through David West? It worked for the first 36 minutes.

[boombaby1987]

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I'm not going to complain they were not as bad as I thought they were going to be, a 3 point loss is a huge win a this point.

Come on man. Your up by 14 with 6 and a half to play. You score 9 points all 4th quarter. You have to be ****ing kidding me if you think this a huge win. It's one of the worst losses I can remember. I thought the Bobcats loss would be the worst of the season, but unfortunately we already have a better canidate. Something is horribly wrong internally with this team, and I think it is Vogel. Do KP and DW have the courage to fire Vogel if the season continues like it is? Such poor coaching.

[Johanvil]

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Almost 6 minutes to score a basket in the last period when the game is on the line.Talking about a team with balls.Just **** off.Hibbert should be ashamed of himself honestly.Here is a guy who has a max contract and he is unable to score,rebound or even catch the damn ball.

[Ace E.Anderson]

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Glad we played hard and fought. Starters had tired legs in the 4th nd that zone killed us.

Now my overreaction....
1. We should've let Roy and his charmin soft a** go to Por. I'd rather have signed or traded for a big that'll give me 8 and 8 for 1/4 of the price.
2. Paul George has zero cajones.
3. Outside of West, Hill, and Lance, this team needs to go see a sports psychiatrist or something.
4. Green? Ha. Mahinmi? Haha. Young?! HOW'RE YOU IN THE LEAGUE?! Lol. This bench is a joke
5. Vogel is an idiot. Anybody with any type of IQ could see that Lance should play with the starters. Yet he decides to start Yung (no O) THEN he allowed us to go THAT LONG without a FG before trying to set up some plays against that zone. I love how he's changed our culture, but he's having the same probs over and over. Eff smashmouth, eff championship passing, eff all the talk...draw up ONE offensive possession that works lol.

Okay I'm back. And i truly am proud of our effort. Time to bunker down and come together. Go pacers

[gummy]

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The story of the third quarter: Lance giveth, the story of the fourth quarter: Lance taketh away. Not at all saying he is solely responsible, just that there was a big drop off in his play.

But at least he's not afraid of the big shot, I give him a lot of credit for that. PG clearly is.

Roy...I don't even know what to say about Roy.

And the bench. Ugh. They should be better overall than last year's bench. But clearly they aren't, at least so far.

If not for George Hill and David West we'd still be looking for our first win.

[3rdStrike]

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- Big Money Roy still looking like a huge mistake.
- Vogel still looking like he doesn't know what offense should look like.

Here, let me help you out, Frank. This is your starting lineup going forward:

Hill
Stephenson
George
West
Hibbert

this is your bench:

Augustin
Green
Mahinmi

Newsflash: you don't have to play the subs all at the same time. In fact, please don't. It was embarrassing last year and it's embarrassing now.

In terms of offense, no sense in calling plays for Hibbert. He can't move anybody and he has ONE move. Two if you count the fake-pass before the one move (and it's always a fake, so it never works). FFS, you're 7'2, playing like you're 6'7. Let him get his 7 points a night on tipped shots. That will either encourage effort or force him to ponder why he isn't being given the ball.

Paul George just doesn't have "it." Thirteen shot attempts? One free throw? Seriously, one? At least Lance Stephenson and George Hill have some of "it". Not enough to carry a team but more than the shy "franchise players" we've got in Big Money Roy & George.

I don't know who I'm more disappointed with. I suppose it's PG because I knew Hibbert was vastly overrated. I had hopes that PG would take that next step (and he's still a good player overall), but clearly he doesn't want to do it. He doesn't have the desire, the fuel, the motivation, whatever you want to call it. If you're taking 13 shots in a loss with Granger out for months, idk what's wrong with you.

[Malakai432]

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I know it's early but who would've thought the Colts where going to look better than the Pacers?!

[Eddie Gill]

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Hibbert has been so depressing this season I don't even want to think about it.

[CreekShow]

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17 seconds for that shot

Thats what i was thinking. Am I the only one who thought the obvious play there is to try and get a quick basket, and then foul again?

[gummy]

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Shows how much Granger means to this team. Sorry if I ever doubted him. They play scared. Paul George plays scared. Hill and West are the only ones that are not afraid to play. Why did we leave Stephenson out there after all those boneheaded plays? Why were we just lining up behind the three point line praying that we would just magically get wide open looks?

Maybe because he's the only other person besides Hill, West, and Hans that isn't playing scared. Boneheaded on and off, yes - but not scared of the moment.