2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

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  • Heisenberg
    u bum
    • Jun 2010
    • 25190

    Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy



    Brandon Roy will not make triumphant return to Rose Garden on Friday with Timberwolves: He will have right knee surgery this week.
    bummer

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    • Kstat
      Rebound King
      • Jan 2004
      • 34207

      This sounds weird but I have never been so enthusiastic about a 2-9 team. At some point I'd like us to win more consistently, but it's hard not to feel its coming soon.

      It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

      Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
      Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
      NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

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      • DrFife
        Member
        • May 2008
        • 2372

        Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

        Originally posted by Kstat
        This sounds weird but I have never been so enthusiastic about a 2-9 team. At some point I'd like us to win more consistently, but it's hard not to feel its coming soon.
        I'm curious about your thoughts on Detroit vs Milwaukee this season and beyond. Exciting times ahead for both clubs, I believe.


        "He’s no shrinking violet when it comes to that kind of stuff."

        - Rick Carlisle on how Kevin Pritchard responds to needed roster changes.

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        • xtacy
          PROUD 2 B A PACERS FAN!
          • Jul 2008
          • 2088

          Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy



          another "unintentional" artest elbow. this piece of **** should be banned from league.

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          • hackashaq
            Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 1020

            Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

            Gortat frustrated with the Suns offense and his role, expresses it to the Polish press.


            A lot has changed in the Suns since last season.
            Marcin Gortat: Unfortunately, in my case – for worse. I'm certainly not the player I was last season, I need to find my place in the new order. I'm still capable of helping this team, and regularly recording a double double, but when the ball sticks to one person on offence, it's hard to find a good rhythm.

            Last season you've scored a lot of points off of Steve Nash pick and rolls. The team doesn't play that way anymore.
            MG: That's true, but I can score in various situations. Finishing pick and rolls, in transition, from midrange, around the rim. There are a lot of options. Unfortunately, my two strongest plays – the pick and roll and post-ups have been taken away from me. It's not easy, we have a lot of plays that don't include me. And my chemistry with Goran Dragic hasn't been quite equal to what I had with Steve. These are things that we need to work on.

            Coach Alvin Gentry told me that the main post option was Luis Scola. You, on the other hand, are number one on defense.
            MG: Unfortunately... I've been doing the dirty work all my life, and now I have to come back to that. I will fight for what's mine. I'll try to prove to the coach that I can play an important role in the offence. Unfortunately, I don't think I'm even an option for Gentry. He doesn't even take me into consideration. The situation is critical. We're playing the same thing we've been playing last year, but the truth is we have a completely different set of players. I don't think it really works. I can't get frustrated now though, I have to stay positive.

            The Suns have a lot of players that create for themselves.
            MG: We have plenty of players who like to create for themselves, but it doesn't always work. We don't share the ball as much as we have in previous seasons. The ball doesn't move around the perimeter – it usually stops after one or two passes. You can't play like this, let alone win. Basketball is a team sport. Nobody ever won a game alone.

            Before the season you were promising a fight for the playoffs, but from the picture painted by the past few games, the Suns don't seem like a top 8 team in the West.
            MG: Before the season started, I was a huge optimist. I thought we'd play a completely different game. Right now, it doesn't look good. We still have a lot to learn, and a lot to fight for. We need to fix our team defence. We can't give up a hundred points per game. We'll see how it works out. Right now, I'm not losing hope, there's still a shot at the playoffs.

            Did the coach honestly tell you what he expects from you?
            MG: We've talked before the season started. He said he expects me to play defence, rebound, block shots and quarterback the defence. He also said he wanted me to set up in the paint and wait for my shots. And I'm still waiting... (laughter)

            What are you expecting in the coming week?
            MG: After the game against the Miami Heat, we have a longer break and some time to correct some errors in practice. It won't be easy though.

            Maybe you should have an honest conversation with Coach Gentry?
            MG: I don't know if it will change anything. But I'll surely have a chat with him.

            While in Los Angeles, have you talked to Steve Nash?
            MG: Yes, he came in for a visit in the locker room. I can only sigh – too bad he isn't with us any longer...

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            • Derek2k3
              Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 1593

              Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

              Originally posted by xtacy
              http://youtu.be/eKZk2L0NMic

              another "unintentional" artest elbow. this piece of **** should be banned from league.
              This guy.

              What an absolute pile of trash.

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              • immortality
                Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 4164

                Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

                Atleast we are good at something:

                The Pacers lead the league in defensive efficiency and still rank as the most disappointing team through the season's opening month. Which should give you a clear indication of how ugly their offense looks right now without Danny Granger and with Roy Hibbert still fully in a funk.
                In Marc Stein's Power Rankings, the Grizzlies take over the top spot.

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                • Justin Tyme
                  Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 13491

                  Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

                  Originally posted by hackashaq
                  Gortat frustrated with the Suns offense and his role, expresses it to the Polish press.
                  http://gothicginobili.com/?p=5142

                  Gortat is a player I'd trade Hibbert for in a heartbeat. He's a bargain at 7.2 mil this year and 7.7 mil next year. He's not referred to as the Polish Hammer for nothing. He plays smashmouth BB, "D", and can score. No way the Pacers can get him, but the Pacers FO should do their "due diligence" and make an inquirey about him.

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                  • Derek2k3
                    Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1593

                    Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

                    Originally posted by Justin Tyme
                    Gortat is a player I'd trade Hibbert for in a heartbeat. He's a bargain at 7.2 mil this year and 7.7 mil next year. He's not referred to as the Polish Hammer for nothing. He plays smashmouth BB, "D", and can score. No way the Pacers can get him, but the Pacers FO should do their "due diligence" and make an inquirey about him.
                    the issue with Gortat is that he is good defensively, but without a true PG he isn't effective offensively. He was very limited in Orlando, and has struggled without Nash. Not saying he isn't a solid player, just that I wouldn't want to pay $7M for another defensive only guy.

                    Especially in the East, with teams like Miami/NYK/BKN/BOS rolling without much at the Center position offensively.

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                    • MvPlumlee
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 527

                      Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

                      Gortat has a player option for next season and it would surprise me if he isn't going to exercise it. He is actually underpaid.

                      I agree we would still need a better passing PG.

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                      • hackashaq
                        Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1020

                        Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

                        Originally posted by MvPlumlee
                        Gortat has a player option for next season and it would surprise me if he isn't going to exercise it. He is actually underpaid.

                        I agree we would still need a better passing PG.
                        Gortat is locked up for two more years, then he has the player option for the third one. He will use that option, no doubt, unless he has career ending injury. He's massively underpaid, plus he will want long term security.

                        Re that trade, I'm not sure how I'd feel about it, it's not a black and white situation, tbh.
                        Gortat for Hibbert would give us a lot of flexibility this summer, if we wanted to go after Millsap and such. And I don't think we'd downgrade in basketball sense. Gortat isn't a pure defender, he has ok post moves and he's very good at PnR.
                        BUT I'm not very fond of players who go cry about their frustrations to their national press after 10 games. It reminds me of Jasikevicius situation. We'd also be getting a little older.

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                        • MvPlumlee
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 527

                          Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

                          Originally posted by hackashaq
                          Gortat is locked up for two more years, then he has the player option for the third one. He will use that option, no doubt, unless he has career ending injury. He's massively underpaid, plus he will want long term security.

                          Re that trade, I'm not sure how I'd feel about it, it's not a black and white situation, tbh.
                          Gortat for Hibbert would give us a lot of flexibility this summer, if we wanted to go after Millsap and such. And I don't think we'd downgrade in basketball sense. Gortat isn't a pure defender, he has ok post moves and he's very good at PnR.
                          BUT I'm not very fond of players who go cry about their frustrations to their national press after 10 games. It reminds me of Jasikevicius situation. We'd also be getting a little older.
                          What source are you using? I know the sites I use(storyteller, sham, hoopsworld) all used to have a player option for him next year, but they all removed that so I don't know anymore now...

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                          • hackashaq
                            Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1020

                            Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

                            Originally posted by MvPlumlee
                            What source are you using? I know the sites I use(storyteller, sham, hoopsworld) all used to have a player option for him next year, but they all removed that so I don't know anymore now...
                            shamsports, but i was looking at Channing Frye's contract.
                            It seems like he's locked up for the next 2 years with no options at all.

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                            • MvPlumlee
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 527

                              Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

                              Originally posted by hackashaq
                              shamsports, but i was looking at Channing Frye's contract.
                              It seems like he's locked up for the next 2 years with no options at all.
                              There used to be a player option cuz somebody corrected me when I thought there wasn't any option. Perhaps one of them forgot to add it and all the rest copied it

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                              • LG33
                                Member
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 21070

                                Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

                                NBA.com Power Rankings

                                30 Washington (0-8)
                                Pace: 93.6 (24), OffRtg: 90.9 (30), DefRtg: 100.0 (13)
                                The Wizards had a real chance to get their first win of the season on Saturday, with the Jazz playing the second game of a road back-to-back. The Wiz led 15-2 to start the game and held Utah to just 38 percent shooting, but scored just 61 points over the final 44 minutes and allowed 26 offensive rebounds. Monday's game against Indiana will be U-G-L-Y, but it's another legit chance at a win.
                                Oh boy.

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