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  • BrownBearCoffee
    Enjoying the Show
    • Jan 2011
    • 386

    Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

    Originally posted by Hicks
    Just read that Gerald Wallace is opting out of his contract with the Nets.

    Wild random thought: Trade Danny for lottery pick, then sign Wallace with the cap space that opens up.
    Gerald Wallace would compliment the starting lineup perfectly, IMO. He is a savvy player who isn't going to settle for jump shots, and he can have simply abusive defense at times. At other times, it's just solid.

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    • 90'sNBARocked
      LovingTeamDipo!
      • Nov 2009
      • 10046

      Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

      Originally posted by Hicks
      Just read that Gerald Wallace is opting out of his contract with the Nets.

      Wild random thought: Trade Danny for lottery pick, then sign Wallace with the cap space that opens up.
      I would say yes to the Gerald Wallace of a couple years ago, but current version not so sure. I also wouldnt give up Danny for anything but the #1 pick (not happening, I know) but Davis is the only player I see in the draft that's as close to a "can't miss" as you can have

      I doubt Granger gets traded unless its a high pick AND a solid NBA starter. To move Granger for a pick like 4 or lower is a backward step. What player could we draft that would come in as a rookie and have a better year than Granger. If Granger had a true #1 beside him we would have love him. Its like some think Grnager took a step back this year, but its all how you look at it. Some would say Granger's best year was when he scored almost 25 a game in the OBIE days, others might say his overall play this year (rebounding, passing, defense) was better than it's ever been and this was his best year.

      If im Bird, and not to be arrogant but on this topic I feel we think I like, I don't trade Granger unless its either part of a bigger package that nets a player better than Danny or its a # 1-3 pick in the draft and a very solid starter or prospect

      If it appears that D Will is leaving Brooklyn, and somehow both Simon and D Will could be convinced it's a good move, then I could see a package of Granger and DC , maybe TY or picks, in sign and trade, or for Rondo

      Just not Granger for a #7 and a player with less talent or upside. Granger, for all his faults, is still really our only player that gets respect from the opposing players and coaches. You have to game plan for him. He is a legit threat to go for 20 a night , a bad game of like 12 points and a good one of 35.
      Sittin on top of the world!

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      • billbradley

        Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

        Wallace is opting out of 9.5 million.

        Does that mean he wants more money or more years?

        I don't think I would give him over 8.

        EDIT: And I don't even know about that. Watching him last year he didn't seem like the same bruiser and I used to love his game.
        Last edited by Guest; 06-13-2012, 09:32 PM.

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        • cdash
          Whale Shepherd
          • Jun 2009
          • 32259

          Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

          I want no part of Gerald Wallace and his deteriorating skill set.

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          • Sparhawk
            Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 6290

            Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

            Originally posted by Hicks
            Just read that Gerald Wallace is opting out of his contract with the Nets.

            Wild random thought: Trade Danny for lottery pick, then sign Wallace with the cap space that opens up.
            He's turning down $10M. Would another team even give him close to that? I'd love to sign him, have been a fan for awhile. Love guys that play D.
            First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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            • billbradley

              Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

              Here's my hangup with trading Danny. He is still the best player on a team that was 5th in the league.

              Pacers still have problems, and the DG can't dribble and struggles to create, but we would have to make really creative moves to replace what he is to this team.

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              • Sparhawk
                Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 6290

                Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                Originally posted by billbradley
                Wallace is opting out of 9.5 million.

                Does that mean he wants more money or more years?

                I don't think I would give him over 8.

                EDIT: And I don't even know about that. Watching him last year he didn't seem like the same bruiser and I used to love his game.
                Yeah, I don't get it either. Must be the years, cause I don't see how he gets close to $9.5M. I'd give $6-$7M.
                First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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                • Sparhawk
                  Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 6290

                  Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                  Originally posted by billbradley
                  Here's my hangup with trading Danny. He is still the best player on a team that was 5th in the league.

                  Pacers still have problems, and the DG can't dribble and struggles to create, but we would have to make really creative moves to replace what he is to this team.
                  Yeah, Granger isn't the problem, it's the point position. If Granger is traded, it better be for a well above average point guard.
                  First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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                  • tadscout
                    Smooth
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 3178

                    Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                    Originally posted by Hicks
                    Just read that Gerald Wallace is opting out of his contract with the Nets.

                    Wild random thought: Trade Danny for lottery pick, then sign Wallace with the cap space that opens up.
                    I'd rather draft a SG/SF and then use the extra cap space to make a hard run at Deron... if we don't get Deron, go for Dragic and another nice young player to grow with the core.

                    If you get Deron and lottery pick you take a step forward... if you get Dragic, other nice young FA, and lottery pick you take one step back (or break even if PG steps up on offense), and multiple steps forward in a couple years.
                    "George's athleticism is bananas!" - Marc J. Spears

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                    • Will Galen
                      Pacer Junky
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10308

                      Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                      A couple things from Hoopshype; http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

                      Mike Wells: Pacers president Larry Bird and owner Herb Simon won't meet until next week now, according to sources. Twitter

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                      But in the meantime, Indiana Pacers' assistant coach, Brian Shaw and Golden State Warriors assistant coach, Mike Malone, are two of the prime head coaching candidates on the market and they're just waiting. Before the Trail Blazers think about interviewing those candidates, they must ask the Warriors and Pacers for permission to speak with their coach, and as of now, that hasn't been done. Steve Kauffman represents Malone and Jerome Stanley reps Shaw and both have confirmed to CSNNW.com that the Trail Blazers have not called the Warriors or Pacers to seek permission.CSNNW.com
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                      Last edited by Will Galen; 06-13-2012, 10:48 PM.

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                      • owl
                        Member
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 17128

                        Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                        Originally posted by Will Galen
                        A couple things from Hoopshype; http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

                        Mike Wells: Pacers president Larry Bird and owner Herb Simon won't meet until next week now, according to sources. Twitter



                        But in the meantime, Indiana Pacers' assistant coach, Brian Shaw and Golden State Warriors assistant coach, Mike Malone, are two of the prime head coaching candidates on the market and they're just waiting. Before the Trail Blazers think about interviewing those candidates, they must ask the Warriors and Pacers for permission to speak with their coach, and as of now, that hasn't been done. Steve Kauffman represents Malone and Jerome Stanley reps Shaw and both have confirmed to CSNNW.com that the Trail Blazers have not called the Warriors or Pacers to seek permission.CSNNW.com

                        It would be nice to know who is going to make draft picks for the Pacers for sure.
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                        • Will Galen
                          Pacer Junky
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10308

                          Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                          Originally posted by owl
                          It would be nice to know who is going to make draft picks for the Pacers for sure.
                          Everyone in the war-room will have their say and then Bird will make the pick. If we trade our 26th pick like we did last year, we won't be making any picks unless we get one back in trade. Torondo has our 2ed rounder this year.

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                          • Justin Tyme
                            Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 13491

                            Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                            Originally posted by Hicks
                            Just read that Gerald Wallace is opting out of his contract with the Nets.

                            Wild random thought: Trade Danny for lottery pick, then sign Wallace with the cap space that opens up.
                            I've always liked Wallace. He plays great "D", rebs well, and is a tuff player.

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                            • Will Galen
                              Pacer Junky
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10308

                              Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                              Originally posted by Justin Tyme
                              I've always liked Wallace. He plays great "D", rebs well, and is a tuff player.
                              He's not any good, Smash didn't like him!

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                              • CableKC
                                Member
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 36687

                                Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                                Originally posted by vnzla81
                                Having Pritchard as the GM I wouldn't be surprised that he pulls a trade for multiple picks, he is the guy that screwed the Bulls by trading picks and getting Lamarcus Aldridge for Tyrus Thomas, I don't know but I expect the Pacers to try to rebuild for the future instead of the now, with what we have I don't see us moving pass Miami and even if we make it to the finals(big IF) I don't see us making it pass OKC.
                                Your suggestion is to just "roll over and give up" by rebuilding?

                                I don't get the sense that Bird would do that given all that he's done to get us to this point. I think that Bird's goal from the beginning was to build this Team to be a perennial Playoff Team that can help build a strong fan base again. Going from "Beat the Heat" to "We should just rebuild cuz the Heat will have LeWade and Tag-Along for 2-4 more seasons" won't do that.

                                You're right....we may not get past the Thunder or the Heat....but IMHO, Bird's goal has always been to get the fans to return to the Fieldhouse and to keep them there by building a Team that can go as deep as they can in the Playoffs.

                                I agree with you that Pritchard is more inclined to part with Granger if the right deal came along.....but I don't get that he'd just trade him just for prospects.
                                Last edited by CableKC; 06-13-2012, 11:53 PM.
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