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  • Hypnotiq
    Star Platinum
    • Dec 2011
    • 1993

    Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

    Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
    While we're on the topic, league sources say free-agent PG Goran Dragic also is looking for a deal that starts in the $10M range.

    way to much
    Counting down the days untill DJ Augustin's contract expires.

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    • Lance George
      Banned
      • Jun 2009
      • 3657

      Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

      NBA's Top 20 Free Agents - Yahoo! Sports

      Nothing new here, really, except mentioning us being a potential suitor for Chris Kaman (remember him?). Pacers mentions in blue.

      Originally posted by Marc J. Spears
      Deron Williams will be the star of this summer's NBA free-agent market, but he likely won't be jetting around the country visiting several teams. Williams has already narrowed his options to two: Stay with the Nets as they prepare for their first season in Brooklyn; or join Dirk Nowitzki and the Dallas Mavericks.

      NBA teams can begin negotiating with free agents at 12:01 a.m. ET Sunday, though contracts can't officially be signed until July 11. Williams' courtship isn't expected to take too long: He hopes to make his decision before Team USA opens its Olympic training camp Friday in Las Vegas.

      The Nets' chances of keeping Williams, league sources said, could hinge on whether they can convince another marquee star to join them. So far, they've been unable to convince the Orlando Magic to trade Dwight Howard. The Nets also had interest in Kevin Garnett, but he's already agreed to re-sign with the Boston Celtics.

      If Williams leaves, the Nets will look at other free-agent point guard options, including Steve Nash, Goran Dragic and Jason Kidd. If the Mavericks don't land Williams, they might try to convince Nash to return to Dallas.

      "If the Mavericks get [Williams]," one league source said, "it will set the Nets back five years."

      Here's a look at the rest of this summer's top 20 NBA free agents:

      2. Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs, F/C: Duncan, 36, has already declared himself a "Spur for life." The only question is the length and value of his contract. Garnett received a three-year, $34 million deal with the final season not expected to be fully guaranteed, and the average salary of K.G.'s contract could provide a barometer for the Spurs and Duncan. The Spurs have sometimes had difficult negotiations with their aging stars – David Robinson publicly wondered if the franchise wanted him back before getting a two-year, $20 million contract – but Duncan should be different. He's won four championships for the Spurs, and so many people in the franchise have profited because of him.

      3. Nash, Phoenix Suns, PG: Nash has publicly said he's open to re-signing with the Suns. Still, given how much other teams value him, Phoenix doesn't appear to the be the leader. The Toronto Raptors will make a hard push to sign the Canada native. Nash lives in New York in the offseason, and both the New York Knicks and Nets have interest in signing him. If the Mavs can't sign Williams, then they might try to sell Nash on a reunion with his good friend, Nowitzki. The Raptors and Knicks are scheduled to meet with Nash on the first day of free agency.

      4. Roy Hibbert (restricted), Indiana Pacers, C: The Pacers would prefer not to pay Hibbert a max contract, but they also plan to match any offer sheet the All-Star signs with another team. Given Hibbert's age (25), potential and the dearth of quality big men in the league, he's likely headed for a big payday. And Hibbert's agent David Falk won't hesitate to shop for the best deal.

      5. Eric Gordon (restricted), New Orleans Hornets, G: The Hornets drafted talented guard Austin Rivers, who potentially could replace Gordon, the top shooting guard in free agency this summer. Still, the Hornets will weigh matching whatever offer sheet Gordon receives.

      Gordon will visit his hometown Indiana Pacers, in addition to the Houston Rockets and Suns this coming week. He's also receiving interest from the Portland Trail Blazers, Charlotte Bobcats and Mavericks (if they don't sign Williams). Like Williams, Gordon hopes to make his decision before Team USA's training camp begins.


      6. Brook Lopez (restricted), Brooklyn Nets, F/C: The Nets have offered Lopez in potential trade packages for Howard, but he's still expected to get a lucrative contract from them.

      7. Goran Dragic, Houston Rockets, PG: The Rockets want to keep Dragic, but it probably won't be cheap. The Raptors, Mavericks, Hornets and Suns – who traded Dragic to the Rockets – also have interest. The Rockets already have point guard Kyle Lowry under contract, and Lowry has said he wants to be traded if Dragic returns. There's been some tension between Lowry and Rockets coach Kevin McHale, and Lowry's name surfaced in the team's trade talks on draft day.

      8. Jameer Nelson, Orlando Magic, PG: Nelson became an unrestricted free agent when he exercised his opt-out clause on Friday. He said he's open to re-signing with the Magic, but he'll also draw outside interest depending on where the other top point guards sign.

      9. O.J. Mayo, Memphis Grizzlies, SG: The Grizzlies waived their right to make Mayo a restricted free agent, all but assuring he'll play elsewhere next season. Brooklyn, Boston, Phoenix, Indiana and Portland are interested, a league source said. The Celtics tried to acquire Mayo last season in a trade for Ray Allen.

      10. Chauncey Billups, Los Angeles Clippers, PG: Billups is ahead of schedule in his recovery from an Achilles injury and hopes to be ready to play by the start of the season. He has enjoyed his short time with the Los Angeles Clippers, but the Rockets, Chicago Bulls, Trail Blazers and Philadelphia 76ers also have interest. Billups plans to do some light work on the floor during USA Basketball’s upcoming training camp in Las Vegas.

      11. Ersan Ilyasova, Milwaukee Bucks, F: He's a versatile player who averaged 16.1 points and 9.1 rebounds after the All-Star break. The Bucks are expected to get competition from Brooklyn, Cleveland, Toronto and possibly Philadelphia (if the Sixers use their amnesty clause on Elton Brand).

      12. Jamal Crawford, Portland Trail Blazers, G: The Los Angeles Clippers, Minnesota Timberwolves, Sacramento Kings and Mavericks could emerge as possible suitors for Crawford.

      13. Jeremy Lin (restricted), New York Knicks, PG: The Knicks don't have plans to let the marketing marvel leave. They can match any offer Lin receives.

      14. Andre Miller, Denver Nuggets, PG: The Nuggets would like to re-sign Miller, but he could also draw interest from the Golden State Warriors, Knicks, Magic, Nets, Suns and Mavericks. Unless the Nuggets are aggressive, Williams and Nash will likely have to make their decisions before Miller gets his best offer.

      15. Jason Kidd, Dallas Mavericks, PG: Kidd could return to the Mavericks, depending on who else they sign. The Knicks and Nets also might have interest.

      16. Omer Asik (restricted), Chicago Bulls, C: Asik is receiving interest from Chicago, Houston, Portland and Philadelphia.

      17. Ray Allen, Boston Celtics, G: The Suns are expected to pursue Allen. They can pay significantly more than either the Miami Heat or Knicks, Allen's two other leading suitors. Suns president Lon Babby is Allen’s former agent.

      18. Brandon Roy, Portland Trail Blazers, G: The Blazers used their amnesty policy on Roy in December after he was unable to play because of ongoing knee problems. After receiving the same platelet-rich plasma therapy Kobe Bryant underwent a year ago in Germany, Roy now plans to make his comeback this season. The Timberwolves, Mavericks, Bulls and Pacers all have interest.

      19. Gerald Wallace, Brooklyn Nets, F: Wallace is expected to re-sign with the Nets, but Charlotte, Cleveland and Houston also could bid for him.

      20. Chris Kaman, New Orleans Hornets, C: The Hornets put Kaman on the trading block, but ultimately kept him through the end of the season. He could draw interest from Indiana, Phoenix, Portland, Sacramento, Dallas.

      Other unrestricted free agents of interest: Boston Celtics forward Brandon Bass; Los Angeles Clippers forward Reggie Evans; Boston Celtics forward Jeff Green; Portland Trail Blazers guard Jonny Flynn; Phoenix Suns forward Grant Hill; Los Angeles Lakers forward Jordan Hill; Atlanta Hawks guard Kirk Hinrich; Utah Jazz forward Josh Howard; Cleveland Cavaliers forward Antawn Jamison; New Orleans Hornets forward Rashard Lewis; Los Angeles Clippers forward Kenyon Martin; Utah Jazz guard C.J. Miles; Los Angeles Lakers point guard Ramon Sessions; New York Knicks guard J.R. Smith; Dallas Mavericks guard Jason Terry; Miami forward Rony Turiaf; Charlotte Bobcats forward D.J. White; Los Angeles Clippers guard Nick Young.

      Other restricted free agents of interest: Minnesota Timberwolves forward Michael Beasley; Phoenix Suns guard Aaron Brooks; New York Knicks guard Landry Fields; Portland Trail Blazers forward J.J. Hickson; Indiana Pacers guard George Hill.

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      • Lance George
        Banned
        • Jun 2009
        • 3657

        Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

        Originally posted by Hypnotiq
        Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
        While we're on the topic, league sources say free-agent PG Goran Dragic also is looking for a deal that starts in the $10M range.

        way to much
        I was thinking more in the $7M range for Dragic, possibly going as high as $8M. $10M seems like significantly overpaying for a guy who's been decisively average for about 90% of his career.
        Last edited by Lance George; 07-01-2012, 02:22 AM.

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        • CableKC
          Member
          • Mar 2005
          • 36687

          Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

          Originally posted by Steagles
          Toney Douglas and Steve Novak (S&T) for Dahntay?
          Novak is a Free Agent....I don't know if he's a RFA or a UFA....but I wouldn't want him. Honestly, I'd rather let Inferno expire while living with him being a cheerleader and occasional Veteran Perimeter defender off the bench. I'd rather use the Capspace to sign someone else other than using it to retain Novak.
          Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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          • CableKC
            Member
            • Mar 2005
            • 36687

            Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

            Originally posted by Steagles
            Lin, Novak

            for

            DC, Dahntay, future (top 20 protected) 1st

            Could that get it done? The trade machine doesn't have Lin and Dahntay so I don't if the salaries match
            Nope.....Linsanity is far more than just a solid Prospect PG.....the guy is a Marketing dream and worth way more ( both from a Trade Value and $$$ POV ) to the Knicks than DC and a 1st round pick in the 20s.
            Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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            • tadscout
              Smooth
              • Dec 2005
              • 3178

              Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

              Only reason we would trade Jones is for more cap space if it is needed to make a splash in FA...
              "George's athleticism is bananas!" - Marc J. Spears

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              • CableKC
                Member
                • Mar 2005
                • 36687

                Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                Originally posted by Heisenberg
                He says the Magic told him if he didn't opt in they'd send him to the Lakers for Bynum. The same Lakers that were on his "short list." But he wants Brooklyn so he opted in. Now that getting to Brooklyn's hard, TAKE IT TO COURT! Instead of, y'know, not opting in and being a FA in about 25 minutes.
                Honestly, I have no idea why one would even consider going to the Lakers ever be considered a "punishment". I recall Kobe pitching him the whole "you'll be the 3rd wheel on the bus" idea behind Kobe and Gasol and that Dwight was turned off by that "pitch". Seriously, would Mike Brown be that stupid to intentionally make Dwight a 3rd wheel every night given what he can do? At worst, you suck it up for a year while more than likely making it all the way to the WCF and then see if you want to stay or not.

                Either way....both Dwight and his Agent are stupid.
                Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                • Cactus Jax
                  Formerly PacerFanInAZ
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7091

                  Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                  Originally posted by CableKC
                  Honestly, I have no idea why one would even consider going to the Lakers ever be considered a "punishment". I recall Kobe pitching him the whole "you'll be the 3rd wheel on the bus" idea behind Kobe and Gasol and that Dwight was turned off by that "pitch". Seriously, would Mike Brown be that stupid to intentionally make Dwight a 3rd wheel every night given what he can do? At worst, you suck it up for a year while more than likely making it all the way to the WCF and then see if you want to stay or not.

                  Either way....both Dwight and his Agent are stupid.
                  The Lakers weren't going to make the trade without a new deal. Dwight should have just never said any other teams and really forced Orlando to deal with Brooklyn like Carmelo did with the Nuggets going to the Knicks.
                  "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

                  ----------------- Reggie Miller

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                  • CableKC
                    Member
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 36687

                    Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                    Originally posted by Heisenberg
                    phone/skype i guess

                    I am guessing that DW doesn't knows what Skype is.
                    Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                    • Heisenberg
                      u bum
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 25190

                      Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                      Originally posted by CableKC

                      I am guessing that DW doesn't knows what Skype is.
                      That shouldn't be green. I really doubt Donnie knows what Skype is.

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                      • CableKC
                        Member
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 36687

                        Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                        Originally posted by Sandman21
                        Sean Deveney ‏@SeanDeveney

                        Toronto #Raptors not just making a FA pitch for Steve Nash. They're pitching him on post-retirement opportunities, too.
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                        Regardless of where Nash goes in the next couple of weeks....I would guess that the Raptors would still offer him a Post-Retirement job in the Front Office. The guy is Mr. Basketball in Canada.
                        Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                        • Heisenberg
                          u bum
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 25190

                          Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                          I assume it's all on the up and up, not about to call the Raptors dirty or anything. But I'm interested in how this "post-retirement" stuff plays out in a Nash contracts. Just seems pretty muddy.

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                          • CableKC
                            Member
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 36687

                            Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                            Originally posted by tadscout
                            This CBA and that hideous contract, noooo way he has the same trade value. Talent yes, but value not even close.
                            Joe Johnson is way too talented and too much of an asset for the Hawks to be a pure Salary dump and a 1st round pick OR a prospect. I can see your point about the CBA....but at worst....he should be able to net a 1st round pick, Prospect, a larger Expiring Contract ( or TPE ) and a long-term Contract that is smaller in size and length. Either way...I'd be stunned if the Hawks were just asking for a 1st round pick or Prospect ( either or but not both ) and an Expiring Contract.
                            Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                            • CableKC
                              Member
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 36687

                              Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                              Originally posted by GrangeRusHibbert
                              NBA's Top 20 Free Agents - Yahoo! Sports

                              Nothing new here, really, except mentioning us being a potential suitor for Chris Kaman (remember him?). Pacers mentions in blue.
                              It says that the Pacers COULD draw interest in Kaman. This to me is more speculation than some "sourced" rumor.

                              I assume that this is based off of the offseason need for a Backup Center. The writer of the article clearly does not know that we drafted Miles.
                              Last edited by CableKC; 07-01-2012, 03:07 AM.
                              Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                              • CableKC
                                Member
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 36687

                                Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

                                Originally posted by Heisenberg
                                That shouldn't be green. I really doubt Donnie knows what Skype is.
                                I didn't want to be mean here to DW.
                                Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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