The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

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  • Pacergeek
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 9044

    The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

    What do the Pacers need to do to advance to the ECF in 2012-2013? I say we need to upgrade both starting guard positions. We also need another big to come off the bench. I really like the front court of Hibbert, West, Granger
    Being unable to close out a game in which you have a comfortable lead in the 4th Q = Pulling a Frank Vogel
  • Shade
    Administrator
    • Jan 2004
    • 51892

    #2
    Re: The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

    Nash/Williams or bust.

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    • Steagles
      @steagles1
      • Apr 2011
      • 3323

      #3
      1st choice: DWill
      2nd: Nash
      3rd: Dragič



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      • Steagles
        @steagles1
        • Apr 2011
        • 3323

        #4
        2012-13 Area 55 or bust BTW.


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        • Pacerized
          Member
          • Apr 2004
          • 7747

          #5
          Re: The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

          Originally posted by Shade
          Nash/Williams or bust.
          I fully agree, this is our last chance to get better without giving anything up.
          No small plans Larry.
          Why do teams tank? Ask a Spurs fan.

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          • Mourning
            All is full of Orange!
            • Jan 2004
            • 9955

            #6
            Re: The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

            Well if Williams or Nash won't come, maybe make a play for Lowry or Dragic? And another backup bigman who can block shots. We need more shotblocking off the bench IMHO.
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            • PacersRule
              Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 663

              #7
              Re: The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

              All this talk about Williams and Nash. Although to get either one will be a homerun, I think Andre Miller is a pretty good consolidation prize.

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              • pizza guy
                The Dude Abides
                • Nov 2004
                • 5895

                #8
                Re: The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

                Make no changes other than adding Deron Williams.

                To go further than ECF, Hibbert needs to get Paul George in the gym and they need to push push push push push each other. Danny and David West can hang out and maybe Danny can learn how to be an NBA veteran that doesn't disappear in the playoffs' biggest moments.

                Vogel needs to strap himself into a chair and watch Gregg Popovich's offense until he can call a game blindfolded, based only on the squeak of sneakers on a wood floor.

                The biggest player addition that could be made is DWill and it's not even close. I know we're going to have a million threads about Williams and Nash this off-season, but the choice is obvious. DWill fits perfectly whereas Nash would make our team defense worse and he only has a few miles left on those tires. Getting DWill puts us immediately into title contention.
                It's a new day for Pacers Basketball.

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                • Pacerized
                  Member
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 7747

                  #9
                  Re: The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

                  If we can't land Williams or Nash then there isn't another free agent pg that I'd want. We don't need any more good players, we need a great player to take us to the next level.
                  I think the approach after Willaims and Nash needs to be like the draft, go for the best player regardless of position. At least it gives us assets to help us improve by trade. Once Hibbert is signed we can't bring in any additional talent without giving someone up. I'd say go for Kaman as the best player left after Willaims and Nash. Then we could look at moving a big man and picks for a player like Rondo.
                  Why do teams tank? Ask a Spurs fan.

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                  • D-BONE
                    Peace Dog
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 15651

                    #10
                    Re: The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

                    Has been said in the post game thread I think but obvious needs are

                    -upgrade at PG
                    -3 pt sniper
                    -Rugged, defending interior player

                    Doubt you get all that done in one off season, but this would appear to be one where you might be able to pull off something significant. I also think if a can't miss deal comes along (again, that can't miss probably a long shot, but...) you have to operate thinking nobody is off the table for trades.
                    I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.

                    -Emiliano Zapata

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                    • BringJackBack
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 8584

                      #11
                      Re: The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

                      I think that if we address of two of those three needs that D-BONE mentioned in one offseason, along with what our core's improvement (particularly PG and Hibbert, though this postseason will do leaps and bounds in of itself for the whole team), than we will be VERY good going forward.

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                      • pizza guy
                        The Dude Abides
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 5895

                        #12
                        Re: The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

                        Oh, and we can't forget the single most important part of building a real Title Team.

                        NEW UNIFORMS!
                        It's a new day for Pacers Basketball.

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                        • PacersRule
                          Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 663

                          #13
                          Re: The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

                          Originally posted by D-BONE
                          Has been said in the post game thread I think but obvious needs are

                          -upgrade at PG
                          -3 pt sniper
                          -Rugged, defending interior player

                          Doubt you get all that done in one off season, but this would appear to be one where you might be able to pull off something significant. I also think if a can't miss deal comes along (again, that can't miss probably a long shot, but...) you have to operate thinking nobody is off the table for trades.
                          Brandon Rush?
                          In all seriousness, I feel like there aren't that many pure shooters left. The Nowitzkis and Ray Allens cost too much and the Kaponos and Bonners can't do anything besides shoot 3 pointers.

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                          • PacersHomer
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 9464

                            #14
                            Re: The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

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                            • Pace Maker
                              Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 2011

                              #15
                              Re: The Official Off-season 2012 Thread

                              Assuming the likely scenario we don't land D Will, yay or nay to Eric Gordon?
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