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    Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

    How useless is the individual +/- stat in a game to me? Danny Granger ended the night with a 0 and Dahntay Jones ended the game with a +2. Does anyone really believe that Dahntay was a more valuable player tonight than Danny was? Me neither.

    Ok I’ll be honest with you I was very tempted to just post this photo with no words as my odd thought’s for the evening.



    He was huge tonight and I feel very safe in saying had Danny not been on fire we would have come home from Texas 0-2 with our heads hanging low as we go into a buzz saw of a week.

    However with this win we now go back to 10 games over .500% and move closer to Orlando who lost today for 3rd in the East. We also were able to move up ½ game over Atlanta with the victory thus giving us a full game on them. 3 through 8 in the east is a mess because there are so few % points separating the teams. At this point in time I am confident that the Bucks can’t catch us. So not trying to rain on Anthems parade of magic number thread I feel that the playoffs are a solid lock right now. Now where we end up I don’t know could be as low as 7 or as high as 3 we’ll just see how we do.

    At this point in time I’m not really looking at who our best matchup is because so many things are out of our hands so I would just prefer we go ahead and get as high a seed as possible. If 3rd is within reach I would love to grab it.

    The game itself was very tough on my nervous system. I had a previous engagement tonight so I had to watch on tape delay when I got home and needless to say I spent most of the 3rd quarter looking like Gary Oldham as Vlad the impailer at the beginning of Dracula when they told him his wife could not enter heaven. (skip ahead to the 1:04 mark)



    When we came out after the half and Brooke was interviewing Dan Burke I was trying my best to telepathically contact Seth and have him sucker punch him, but then I remembered I was on tape delay.

    His defensive scheme will be the death of me. Twice tonight because he has Roy hedging out against the point guard his man got a dunk and a layup at the rim. Yes I know it’s because Collison can’t keep his man in front of him but for the love of God let’s just let the point guard get a jump shot from distance and not cause the chain reaction that happens when this occurs.

    On that note, is there any point guard in the league that Collison can guard? I mean honest to God Dragic looked like Chris Paul out there tonight and it’s all because Collison has gone from being a below average defender of point guards to abysmal. It is hard to put in words how bad our other players end up looking because they are scrambling from one place to another because we can’t just play straight up man to man against anyone because of him.

    On the plus side it did allow Roy to block 5 shots, two of which he pretty much smashed flat against the board. It also gave us one of the better tweets of the year.

    Roy Hibbert ‏ @Hoya2aPacer
    Blocking shots like a bawse!!!

    You have to love when Roy is high on himself because he gets to be pretty funny.

    So I don’t forget I do want to thank Tyler for grabbing more rebounds in this game than he has in a week of games combined. Of course he couldn’t hit water from a boat but he was drawing fouls & he finally got out of his free throw shooting funk. He did play a physical game but sadly the Houston backup big men are really pretty big as well and Dalembert is long and can block shots & when he’s not he’s altering shots, so Tyler did the smart thing and drew a lot of fouls.

    The most impressive thing about tonight’s win, beyond Grangers play, is that we outrebounded the Rockets in the O.T. 10-0. That is beyond impressive and is really the reason we ended up winning the game. When you shut a team off of the boards they get no second chance points, they get no fast breaks and you get plenty of second and third shot opportunities.

    I’m short on time tonight so it’s just going to be the good the bad and the ugly.

    The Good:

    Is there any question who is # 1 here? Danny Granger was much like frosted flakes in that he wasn’t just good he was great!!!! I don’t like that he shot 8 three point shots but hitting 6 of them will tend to make me not say much about that. But do you have any idea how big that block was at the end of the game? Not just that he blocked it and saved the game but the fact that he didn’t foul on the play. I’ve watched it several times on replay and that was a clean block. Look hitting this many three’s is fools gold but on occasion when you can do that it sure helps and tonight it didn’t only help it brought us back in the game. Nice to know that Danny’s shot has returned.

    Roy Hibbert is just a trooper and we have no idea how lucky we are to have a player who has been blessed with good health. Think about this, he twisted his back last night & I had pretty much conceded that he would be out of the game tonight with a tweaked back. Not only did he not miss it, well he blocked shots like a bawse and really defended the paint and grabbed big important rebounds.

    Offensively David West has been almost everything we have ever wanted. Defense on the other hand, well tonight let’s just be happy and focus on the offense. He is really good at hitting the cutters with passes and tonight delivered two picture perfect passes to George who only converted one of them, but both passes were on the money. He did surprise everyone to begin the game and rose up and thundered home one of those hammer on the anvil dunks he does about once a month.

    The Bad:

    On paper again Collison had a good game. How do you say someone who had 7 assists, 5 rebounds and 11 points on 50% shooting from the field had a bad game? Well you look at what his counter part did and you’ll know why. Now to be honest Darren didn’t have as bad a night really as Hill had but that is really not a compliment. He was brilliant in the Miami game, but man this guy just kills us on the defensive end so bad. Now to give him some credit I thought he did a pretty decent job of playing a two man game with West in the first half as they took turns passing it back and forth to each other for scores.

    Paul George: Sorry friends I love Paul but this was just a poor outing for him. Not really in the game tonight for some reason. I’m not mad about it and I don’t think it reflects on his year but man he had a couple of really boneheaded plays. Yes he got screwed on that offensive foul call but man that pass right to Dragic to give them in essence a 5 point play was just brutal. He can make up for it by destroying the Knicks on Tuesday.

    I don’t know how Barbosa ended up shooting .50% from the field, he just seemed terrible to me. Don’t ask me to justify him being here in the bad because honestly I can’t, but I just didn’t feel like he did much tonight.

    The Ugly:




    Good win now let's pay back the Knicks.


    Basketball isn't played with computers, spreadsheets, and simulations. ChicagoJ 4/21/13
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    Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

    Danny and the rebounding in OT is what really stood out to me in this game. This was a nailbiter for sure. Good game. Good win. I like it .
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    • #3
      Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

      I hate our defensive scheme as well. Our rotations are **** and we over help constantly. They drive me insane. At the start of the year it wasn't as bad because offenses were so behind with the shortened season. But now as everyone is in the flow of things, its become a big problem imo.

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        Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

        Originally posted by Peck View Post

        However with this win we now go back to 10 games over .500% and move closer to Orlando who lost today for 3rd in the East. We also were able to move up ½ game over Atlanta with the victory thus giving us a full game on them. 3 through 8 in the east is a mess because there are so few % points separating the teams. At this point in time I am confident that the Bucks can’t catch us. So not trying to rain on Anthems parade of magic number thread I feel that the playoffs are a solid lock right now. Now where we end up I don’t know could be as low as 7 or as high as 3 we’ll just see how we do.
        Since all teams play the same amount of games, at this time of year it's easier to just look at the lost column to see where we are in relation to other teams.

        We are tied with Orlando with 21 losses. That's good because that means if we don't lose anymore games we will at worst wind up tied with them. Of course with them having the tiebreaker for winning the season series that means we can't catch them unless they lose.

        What worries me more than Orlando is Boston. They are currently in 4th and we are in 5th, but since we have the better record, we would have home court advantage if the playoffs opened today.

        Boston has 22 losses, one more than us. We have split the season series at one game apiece so far. We play them at home this Saturday. That means if they beat us this Saturday they could tie us in the lost column, and they would have the tie breaker. Meaning they would have home court advantage in the playoffs.

        Both of us have big games before that one though.

        They have San Antonio at home Wed. and Chicago away Thur. Boston has won 5 in a row and are hot right now but San Antonio has won 7 in a row. Boston is likely to lose at least one of those games.

        We play the Kincks at home Tue., and play the Wiz at their place Wed. However, Friday we play the Western conf. leader the Oklahoma City Thunder, so we could have another loss in the lost column too. The good news is we play the Thunder at home.

        That means this weeks games, especially Friday and Saturday's games could go a long way in determining whether we will have home court advantage in the playoffs or not.

        Oh, by the way, the thunder have won 6 in a row as of now.


        At this point in time I’m not really looking at who our best matchup is because so many things are out of our hands so I would just prefer we go ahead and get as high a seed as possible. If 3rd is within reach I would love to grab it.
        Agree! If we can grab the 3rd seed we will have earned it and we will have home court advantage. That's the best place to be, because even a bad matchup for us would have to start the playoffs at our place.

        Roy Hibbert is just a trooper and we have no idea how lucky we are to have a player who has been blessed with good health. Think about this, he twisted his back last night & I had pretty much conceded that he would be out of the game tonight with a tweaked back. Not only did he not miss it, well he blocked shots like a bawse and really defended the paint and grabbed big important rebounds.
        Hmmm, seems like just a game or so ago you were ready to shout obscenities at Roy. (Grin)

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        • #5
          Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

          I posted this in the post PGT as well. DC makes almost all other point guards we play against seem fantastic, no?

          What he brings offensively most nights are really a wash because of what our opposing point guards do to us.

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            Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

            Originally posted by Will Galen View Post
            We have split the season series at one game apiece so far.
            No. We lead the season series 2 - 1.
            Originally posted by IrishPacer
            Empty vessels make the most noise.

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            • #7
              Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

              It would be an understatement to say that the Boston game this week is HUGE. If we win, we get one-game additional lead, but also the tiebreaker, which essentially is a two-game lead.

              With OKC and Boston this week, it is definitely more important to get the W in the Boston game.

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                Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

                Originally posted by Nuntius View Post
                No. We lead the season series 2 - 1.
                Thank you! I had checked before posting, then after you posted I checked again and still thought the season series was tied.

                So I went though the list again, slow, not just scanning for the word Boston, but reading. I found the Pacers.com schedule has Boston listed under both the name Boston, and Celtics. So yep we are ahead in the season series 2-1.

                I'm not usually wrong when I post facts that can be checked, because I nearly always check. Since I did check and was wrong anyway it means I should be more tolerant of others when they get their facts wrong, huh?

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                • #9
                  Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

                  Originally posted by Peck View Post
                  How useless is the individual +/- stat in a game to me? Danny Granger ended the night with a 0 and Dahntay Jones ended the game with a +2. Does anyone really believe that Dahntay was a more valuable player tonight than Danny was? Me neither.
                  I have been beating that drum my friend for adeen!!

                  Can anyone say that DG was NOT the main reason we won yesterday? I hate that friggin +/- stat soo much

                  To be fair to DC, Dragic is a very underrated PG. He has put it on more than a couple PG's this year. He is tall and deciptively quick, so I knew DC would have trouble

                  But yes DC is a tremendous liability on defense. In fact if it was my call, I would have him sag a good foot or two of his defender so he could better stop penetration, and if the opposing PG can consistenly rain jumpers form 18-20 feet, I can live with that instead of our bigs constantly getting out of position to stop penetration only to give open a wide open 3
                  Sittin on top of the world!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

                    Goran Dragic once scored 26 points in a playoff game against the Spurs. I forgot one detail: He scored 23 points in the 4th quarter.

                    That feat put him in pretty good company:
                    http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/20...in-nba-playoff

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                    • #11
                      Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

                      Originally posted by LoneGranger33 View Post
                      Goran Dragic once scored 26 points in a playoff game against the Spurs. I forgot one detail: He scored 23 points in the 4th quarter.

                      That feat put him in pretty good company:
                      http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/20...in-nba-playoff
                      @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

                        Originally posted by Will Galen View Post
                        I'm not usually wrong when I post facts that can be checked, because I nearly always check. Since I did check and was wrong anyway it means I should be more tolerant of others when they get their facts wrong, huh?
                        Happens to the best of us
                        Originally posted by IrishPacer
                        Empty vessels make the most noise.

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                          Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

                          Originally posted by Peck View Post
                          On that note, is there any point guard in the league that Collison can guard? I mean honest to God Dragic looked like Chris Paul out there tonight and it’s all because Collison has gone from being a below average defender of point guards to abysmal.
                          While I would agree that Collison defends at the level I would expect from my 100 year old grandma with her walker on the the court if you look back at Dragic's numbers over the last month since he took over for Lowry they are pretty impressive.

                          15 pts
                          7.4 assts
                          50% fg
                          41% 3pt

                          He's also an unrestricted f/a

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                            Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

                            Originally posted by Larry Staverman View Post
                            While I would agree that Collison defends at the level I would expect from my 100 year old grandma with her walker on the the court if you look back at Dragic's numbers over the last month since he took over for Lowry they are pretty impressive.

                            15 pts
                            7.4 assts
                            50% fg
                            41% 3pt

                            He's also an unrestricted f/a

                            For some, that's not a big enough sample size. (In green)
                            Or he's just playing for a contract.
                            Or his size is a problem.
                            Or he his "D" isn't top 5 PG like.
                            Or he isn't D'Will, CP3, Nash, or Rhondo. AND how many are?

                            WHAT he is, is he's better than anything the Pacers remotely have, he has some size/height, he's a PG that can play the PNR, he's an average defender, he's a willing PASSER who has court vision, he has BB IQ, he doesn't stagnate the offense by pounding the air out of the ball, he gets others involved, he has good BB handling skills, he has good FG/3pt/FT%, and he's got playoff expirence. Many of those samethings have asked for in a PG on this board.

                            Now, lets look at some of the PG other than the previous mentioned 4 that has been discussed as on this forum as possibles... Felton, Miller, Augustin, Sessions, and Calderon. He's better than any of these suggested PG. Some are paid considerably more than what his new contract will be. To me you take a shot with him if the price is right. JMOAA

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                            • #15
                              Re: Odd Thoughts: Patriot Missiles taking down the Rockets

                              You certainly take a shot with him and hope that the prize is right
                              Originally posted by IrishPacer
                              Empty vessels make the most noise.

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